WINFREY: When we decided to do this show about past life regression,
one of the first people we thought of is former guest Leon Roberts.
You may remember him from a show that we did on quitting smoking.
Leon is a funeral director, so he's around death all the time.
You see dead people.
LEON: Yes.
WINFREY: All the time.
LEON: I do.
[LAUGHTER]
WINFREY: And we thought that he might have an interesting experience.
First, how are you doing with the not smoking?
LEON: I'm doing great. It's been 65 days today.
WINFREY: With no cigarettes.
LEON: Yeah.
[APPLAUSE]
WINFREY: There are two things that you need to
know before you watch this tape with Leon.
One, Leon has a lifelong rocky relationship with his older sister.
And two, he has nightly dreams of flying.
All right? Let's see this.
LEON: A little nervous about, you know, if I can be put under hypnosis.
You know, a little nervous about that.
That's about it, really. I'm open to being hypnotized,
but I'm not sure if I'm able to be, so.
Dr. Weiss, Leon Roberts.
DR. WEISS: Leon. A pleasure to meet you.
LEON: Pleasure to meet you.
DR. WEISS: You too. As I get to know Leon,
I explain what it means to be hypnotized.
It usually takes a person about 20 minutes to reach a deep hypnotic state.
Here's some of the process.
A lot of people don't understand what hypnosis is.
It's really just focusing the concentration when you're relaxed.
You're always in control.
You can open your eyes at any time.
Imagine that you can breathe out the stresses
and tensions in your body,
and that you can breathe in the beautiful energy all around you.
Let my voice also take you deeper and deeper relaxed.
Let us begin going backwards in time.
At first a little bit and then more and more.
As I count backwards now from five to one,
go back into your childhood and let yourself
remember a memory from when you were young.
LEON: I remember my mother being gone one night.
DR. WEISS: Mm-hmm.
LEON: And they were telling me
that she was going to bring a baby home.
DR. WEISS: About how old are you now?
LEON: Six.
DR. WEISS: What are you experiencing now?
Are you remembering more about that time?
LEON: My sister teasing me, my older sister.
DR. WEISS: Yeah. How was your relationship then?
You can remember everything.
LEON: It was good when we were younger.
DR. WEISS: How do you feel now, remembering that?
Is there sadness?
LEON: Sad.
DR. WEISS: Yeah. Sad. Why sad?
What makes you sad, that it changed?
LEON: Yeah.
DR. WEISS: Yeah, I know. You don't need to feel sad, because you can fix it.
You can fix it now. You know how it was.
You know the real core of it.
Let's go farther back now, back into past lives.
Be there. What's happening to you?
LEON: I'm just floating.
DR. WEISS: When you're floating, do you feel anything?
LEON: I'm on a plane.
DR. WEISS: What kind of plane is this?
LEON: It's an old plane.
DR. WEISS: Kind of a fighter plane, or a military plane?
LEON: [grunts]
DR. WEISS: Where's it going?
I'm going to tap you on the forehead
and count down from three to one.
Three, two, one. More details about the plane, the old plane.
It's hurtling through the sky.
LEON: It's having troubles flying.
DR. WEISS: What kind of troubles?
LEON: Can't stay level.
DR. WEISS: It can't. Something's happened to it?
LEON: Mm-hmm.
DR. WEISS: What happened? Can you share -
LEON: Smoke.
DR. WEISS: From the plane? Are there other planes?
LEON: Other planes.
DR. WEISS: Leon, who has dreams
of flying every night, seems to be describing
a past life where he is fighting on a war plane.
LEON: I don't want to die.
DR. WEISS: No. I don't want to die, either.
How many people are in the plane?
LEON: Me and him.
DR. WEISS: Just two.
Do you do the gun? Is that what you're doing?
LEON: I don't know who's who.
DR. WEISS: No. Is it confusing?
LEON: I don't know who to shoot.
DR. WEISS: No. It's okay.
LEON: So sometimes I don't shoot.
DR. WEISS: No. No. But your plane gets hit.
LEON: Yeah.
DR. WEISS: Yeah.
LEON: It's my fault.
DR. WEISS: Because you didn't shoot?
So they shot you instead?
Because Leon refuses to shoot his guns, his own plane crashes.
I see his reluctance to kill others in this past life
as the mark of an advanced soul.
It's okay. I'm going to take you to the end.
You don't survive this fall from the plane, do you?
LEON: No.
DR. WEISS: No. Let's go to the end now.
You don't have to go through it.
When I touch you on the forehead,
the plane will be down.
You will leave that body and you'll feel so much better.
Now, leave the body.
You're not the soldier anymore.
Just float above it. You can look down.
What happens next as you float there?
You're relieved. There's no fear anymore.
What happens now?
LEON: I'm not afraid.
DR. WEISS: You're not afraid anymore.
Do you feel lighter now?
LEON: Yeah.
DR. WEISS: No pain?
LEON: No pain.
WINFREY: Well, Leon's regression didn't end there.
What happened next brought everybody to tears.
DR. WEISS: Is there more?
LEON: I feel this feeling.
DR. WEISS: Yes? What feeling?
LEON: Oh, my head is swelling up.
DR. WEISS: I'm going to touch you on the forehead
and you'll understand why your head is so big,
why it feels like it is swelling up.
LEON: I was crushed.
DR. WEISS: You were crushed?
LEON: [gasping]
DR. WEISS: What crushed your head?
How did it get crushed?
LEON: My whole body.
DR. WEISS: Your whole body was crushed? Yeah.
LEON: Yes. It was on my chest.
DR. WEISS: Yes, something on your chest. What's on your chest?
LEON: I don't know. It's heavy.
DR. WEISS: It's heavy. What is it?
LEON: It's a garbage compactor or something, a car crusher.
DR. WEISS: Let's go back in time.
Figure it out. What is it?
LEON: Someone hit me on the head.
DR. WEISS: Do you know who hit you?
LEON: No. I was watching something.
DR. WEISS: You were watching something? Or someone?
LEON: I couldn't do anything.
DR. WEISS: What?
LEON: I didn't do anything. I just watched.
DR. WEISS: You just watched.
And maybe you saw something that -
LEON: Someone being raped.
DR. WEISS: Someone was being raped?
Yeah. And you saw it, just floating above it.
LEON: Yeah.
DR. WEISS: Free of the pain.
You watched a rape and that got you killed,
and caused a terrible pain in your chest
and the feeling of your head exploding.
Just make any connections it may have now in this life.
LEON: No one deserves that.
DR. WEISS: No, not what you saw.
And not what happened to you either.
That rape, did you see the person doing the raping?
The man?
LEON: It's too far away.
DR. WEISS: Too far away. You couldn't see -
LEON: It was an alley.
DR. WEISS: And then someone hit you on the head.
LEON: Mm.
DR. WEISS: Mm-hmm.
But you couldn't help that woman.
You saw it and then you were killed.
LEON: If I was going to die,
I could have helped her.
DR. WEISS: You mean, by running down the alley and -
LEON: Yeah.
DR. WEISS: Yeah. I understand.
Do you feel badly that you didn't do that?
LEON: Yeah.
DR. WEISS: I know. You didn't stop it?
LEON: I wasn't very brave.
DR. WEISS: You couldn't have done anything.
Even if you had tried to stop it,
you probably would have been killed first, right?
It's okay. Let go of any guilt from that time.
Do you know who she was?
The woman there being raped?
LEON: It was my sister.
DR. WEISS: Yeah. It was your sister.
LEON: [sobbing]
DR. WEISS: I know. And you didn't stop it.
LEON: No.
WINFREY: Wow.
LEON: Thanks a lot. [laughs]
WINFREY: Wow.
So just to be clear, you believe that the stranger
that you saw being raped in a previous life is
actually your sister in this life?
LEON: Yes. I didn't see her face, but it was an energy,
it was -- it was just her. There was no doubt about it, it was her.