Mr. Illingworth, told you, was
clear that -- and it was clear
from the text messages back
and forth that his team was
a Rec Team with no experience,
and you understood that.
I looked at the text.
Correct?
>> Correct.
>> Judge Judy: Now, was Franklin
the same kind of team?
>> They played a Franklin team.
I don't think they played that
Franklin team on that
travel list you have.
>> Judge Judy: Well, I want you
to tell me what team they
played.
Now the burden is on you to tell
me what team, according to your
records, they played, 'cause
he's got Franklin.
You tell me what team they
played and what category they
were in.
Look at your records.
You can't, you can't.
>> The teams in his division
were all classified
as Single "A," and as we
determine the process where
teams are played, we do that
by coach résumé, which he had
provided us, as well as
the coaches from Franklin,
Westfield, and all the teams
in the tournament.
They tell us what they are,
who they are, how long they've
been together.
>> Judge Judy: Mr. Garrett.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: When you spoke
to the plaintiff, the plaintiff
told you his group had been
together for a month.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: They were all
novice football players.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: Was the Franklin
team a team that had been
together for a longer period
of time -- at least a year
together?
>> No, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: What about
Westfield?
>> No, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: They had all been
all new together?
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Your Honor.
>> Judge Judy: Just a second.
Is that what you're telling me?
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: Then it's your
responsibility, sir, to prove
otherwise.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: And I'm not
talking about the score.
Your team lost.
>> Right.
>> Judge Judy: Twice.
>> Correct.
>> Judge Judy: Okay.
Now, he says that these teams,
Franklin and Westfield, were
both the same kind of kids
as yours, which are new players
to the sport.
Is that what you're telling me?
Because I'm asking him to prove
otherwise.
If he can, then we're done.
the kids at Franklin and
Westfield the same category
of kids new to the sport
as of October -- September,
October of last year?
>> So I would say they fit
the definition of our
Single "A" Division, which
includes new teams that haven't
been together for a while.
That's a part of it.
We have three or four different
classifications.
>> Judge Judy: I gotcha.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: So your team lost
twice.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: Zero, zero, zero.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: A couple of your
kids roughed up a little bit?
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: Nobody was
seriously injured?
>> Well, we had two kids that
couldn't return.
His trainer on the field
did not --
>> Judge Judy: Listen to me.
>> Sorry.
>> Judge Judy: When you say
"couldn't return," couldn't
return or didn't return?
>> They couldn't return because
they weren't gonna get cleared.
>> Judge Judy: Because?
>> The first kid in the first
game got a concussion.
>> Judge Judy: Show me proof.
>> I don't have proof.
>> Judge Judy: Then it didn't
happen.
>> I'm not gonna argue.
>> Judge Judy: Then it didn't
happen.
>> Okay.
>> Judge Judy: And the second
kid?
>> Did not play in the second
game after he got hurt.
>> Judge Judy: It's not that I
don't care, it's that people who
are -- and I know that I'm in
the vast minority in this
country.
Parents who are stupid enough
to let their 10- and 11-year-old
little boys play football
and be subject to these kind
of vagaries among adult men --
"Well, they can play in this
league because we have different
kind if criteria," and you're
telling me even though you have
no proof of it, that one of
these 10-year-olds got
a concussion because he was
playing with the wrong league,
that has to do more with you
guys than with 10- and
11-year-olds.
10- and 11-year-olds can be
told, "Listen.
You're too little.
You're not big enough to play
football yet, especially in
a tournament.
You want to play tag in
the street, you want to take
a ball in the street and kick it
around, that's fine."
It's usually the fathers who
are beating their chests out
there and pushing their 3'9"
kids, skinny kids, out with
shoulder pads and potentially
getting injured.
Right?
Yours couldn't come back,
according to him.
>> Your Honor...
>> Judge Judy: You're all
a bunch of fools.
Anyway, you have proof to me,
sir -- what you're going to
prove to me now -- 'cause I
don't believe him.
I'm not sure if I get you,
either.
>> I understand.
>> Judge Judy: You have proof
to me that the first team
that you played had been
together for four years?
That's what you said --
four or five years.
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: Show me proof.
>> That's what I showed you,
Your Honor.
>> Judge Judy: This doesn't tell
me anything.
All this shows me is that
Westfield in 2016 won five games
and lost three.
That's what your evidence shows.
>> Yes, ma'am, but this is
a cream of the crop, the best
in Indiana, the kids that go to
the high schools --
>> Judge Judy: Mr. Illingworth,
I'm not taking that from you.
>> That doesn't prove that
they're in a Travel League
and we're in a Rec League?
>> Judge Judy: No, it doesn't.
All it shows is Westfield won
five games and lost three.
>> I have nothing else.
I apologize.
>> Judge Judy: Then we have
nothing else.
Then I suggest that you be more
careful with what you do with
10- and 11-year-olds.
We're done.
>> What I'm saying is I did.
>> Judge Judy: Not if you have
no proof of it, sir.
>> Ma'am, what I'm saying is,
I did.
I signed up for a Rec --
>> Judge Judy: We're done.