-Welcome back. How are you?
-I'm here finally on a show when Fred is here.
-That's true. You have not overlapped.
-No. It's great.
-It's a nice reward for your continued kindness to us
and continuing to come back.
-Well, this show is kind to America.
-Oh, that's very nice of you to say.
-The fact that you do this every night and speak the truth...
-That's very kind of you. -...in ways that should have you
hauled out of here one of these days.
-Well, I'm hanging on as long as I can.
You spoke a little truth yesterday to moderate Dems
who you were critical of putting too much of their faith
in the Mueller Report being their --
him being their savior. -Yes.
-And you wrote that "a frail old man unable to remember things,
stumbling, refusing to answer basic questions.
I said it in 2017, and Mueller confirmed it today.
This was a mistake."
You got a retweet from someone who agreed with you on this.
Donald Trump retweeted you.
-Yes! Yes, yes!
-Now, obviously you have been very vocal about him.
He's been very vocal about you.
How does it feel when Donald Trump agrees with you?
-But he's always -- Actually his tweets at me are --
Actually he's afraid, I think --
He never attacks in the way -- I did get a nickname from him.
-Yeah. -There's 200 of us.
I don't know if you're in the club, but...
-Yeah. -You have a nickname from him?
-He's said "third-rate" about me.
-Third-Rate. Third-Rate Seth.
-Well, not really -- I haven't gotten a "Seth."
I've had marbles in my mouth. That was said about me.
-I got "Sloppy Mike." -Sloppy Mike.
-Sloppy Mike. Yeah.
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So -- Yes, he --
I think he's a little afraid to come completely at me
because, essentially, I'm his base.
-Right. -I'm an angry white guy
over the age of 50,
and I have a high-school education.
-Yeah. Right.
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-So I am -- So you don't want to go at me --
You don't want to go at me too hard.
-Right. -So it's actually --
I so enjoy it when he does.
And I tweeted him back about the part about
we were watching "a frail old man" yesterday.
I just said, "Donald, I was actually talking about you."
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-Despite everything that happened yesterday,
you still do believe that impeachment is the right path?
-Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. You can't --
I don't know what's wrong with the Democrats.
You have to, for history's sake, for the children --
You have to say, "This is wrong.
Presidents cannot break the law."
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And, yes, I know that what everybody says is,
"Well, yeah, but the Senate won't..."
The Senate doesn't impeach.
Impeach is only done by the House.
And it means that your behavior has caused us to impeach you,
and now we'll send you to the Senate for trial.
But you don't say don't do it because there won't be a trial
in the Senate as we know.
The Detroit Tigers do not say, "I don't want to go to New York
and play the Yankees. We're just gonna lose."
You know? -Right.
-"Let's not do impeachment 'cause we'll lose in the Senate
and we're Democrats and our feelings get hurt!"
No! We need to fight! We have to fight, fight, fight.
You know?
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We -- I mean, I'm serious. We are -- This is serious.
Next year, next year, people realize we could --
I think, actually, whoever the Democratic candidate is
will get 2 million more votes
than Hillary's 3 million that she beat him with.
I think we'll get 5 million next year,
and we could still lose the electoral college.
Right.
-This is a very, very serious thing.
And so we have to do some things
to make sure that we have the right candidate.
We have to have a beloved American running,
not a professional politician.
We have to have somebody --
If you put up a professional politician against Trump,
you got to have somebody who's gonna inspire the base.
The base here of the Democratic Party --
women, people of color,
and young adults between 18 and 35.
That's 70% of who is gonna vote next year.
70% of the electorate is what I just described.
So you've got to come up with a candidate to where
when people wake up on election morning next year,
they've got to have that sense
that if you voted in '08 or '12 for Obama --
You remember that feeling that morning?
You couldn't wait to get to the polls.
It's like, "I can't believe we're going to do this today!"
Who are you going to say that about
of the 25 that are running right now?
When you wake up a year from November --
"I can't wait to get to the polls so I can vote for...
John Hickenlooper!
Or Joe Biden! Joe Biden!"
I love Joe Biden. -Yeah. I love Joe Biden, too.
-But we got to win!
-But I think a lot of -- I can understand as well --
I understand this thought process, which is now --
Going into 2016, I think a lot of people --
You were not this kind of person.
You thought Trump was going to win.
You called it state by state.
I think a lot of people, I will admit to it,
didn't think he could win.
So, now I see, and this year, I can understand that people
are like, "Just give me the safest candidate."
Do you think that is -- But you think that's a huge mistake.
-That's the worst -- No. It's the hugest mistake.
You don't want safe right now.
You've got to fight Trump with whatever our version of --
He's a street fighter. We need a street fighter.
That's the only way you're gonna defeat him.
You're going up against a bully.
-Do you see street fighters in the --
How many street fighters -- Don't name names.
But how many out of the 25 do you see as street fighters?
-Uh, two. -Okay.
-Two of the 25 I can say. -Come on. You can say it.
-I recall -- Well -- [ Laughs ]
Look. Bernie... [ Cheers and applause ]