>> AT LEAST HALF A DOZEN TO A DOZEN ON EACH OF THOSE
ITERATIONS.
ITERATIONS. I’LL TURN AROUND AND SEE IF I’M
SOMEWHAT CLOSE.
SOMEWHAT CLOSE. >> DOES THAT INCLUDE THEIR
SPRFRS?
SPRFRS? >> GENERALLY SPEAKING.
>> HALF A DOZEN TO A DOZEN?
>> PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE IF
YOU’RE GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY
UP THE CHAIN THROUGH ALL THE
DIFFERENT LEVELS.
DIFFERENT LEVELS. >> DO YOU OR YOUR TEAM HAVE A
FEEL FOR HOW MANY OF THESE FOLKS
ARE STILL AT THE FBI?
I KNOW YOU TRIED TO ANSWER THAT.
>> WELL, THE HIGHER LEVEL
PEOPLE, AS YOU KNOW, HAVE
CHANGED OVER.
CHANGED OVER. THE DIRECTOR, DEPUTY DIRECTOR,
ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, DEPUTY
ASSISTANT LEVEL --
>> ARE SOME OF THE AGENTS --
>> SOME OF THE AGENTS ARE STILL
THERE.
THERE. >> ARE THEY STILL WORKING ON
FISA APPLICATIONS?
FISA APPLICATIONS? >> I WOULD ENCOURAGE TO YOU
SPEAK TO THE FBI ABOUT THAT.
I THINK THEY HAVE.
>> YEAH, I THINK WE WILL.
I THINK THEY’VE TAKEN SOME STEPS
IN THAT REGARD.
>> IT’S EASIER TO DIVORCE YOUR
SPOUSE AROUND HERE THAN GET
FIRED.
FIRED. THAT’S CLEAR.
THAT’S CLEAR. AT LEAST AT THE FBI.
IS MR. OHR STILL AT THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE?
>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS HE IS.
>> HE’S STILL THERE?
>> THAT’S MY UNDERSTANDING.
>> HOW LONG WITHIN THE FBI -- I
KNOW YOU JUST ISSUED YOUR
REPORT, BUT HOW LONG WITHIN THE
FBI HAS THIS BEEN KNOWLEDGE?
>> SO, WE SENT THE DRAFT FOR
CLASSIFICATION --
CLASSIFICATION -- >> NOT -- EXCUSE ME FOR
INTERRUPTING BUT JUST THE FACT
THERE WAS A MAJOR LEAK UP HERE.
>> IT EVOLVED OVER TIME.
THEY DID NOT KNOW A LOT OF THIS
UNTIL WE FOUND IT.
>> BUT THEY KNOW IT NOW.
>> THE ALTERED EMAIL --
>> BUT THEY KNOW IT NOW, RIGHT?
>> OH, YES.
AS OF THE END OF AUGUST.
>> DOES YOUR REPORT VINDICATE
MR. COMEY?
MR. COMEY? >> IT DOESN’T VINDICATE ANYONE
WHO TOUCHED THIS, INCLUDING THE
LEADERSHIP.
LEADERSHIP. >> DOES IT VINDICATE MS. PAGE?
>> A LITTLE DIFFERENT THERE
BECAUSE AS WE FOUND HERE, SHE
WASN’T INVOLVED IN THIS SO I
DON’T -- LARGELY WASN’T INVOLVED
IN THIS.
IN THIS. >> SHE PARTICIPATED IN THE --
>> IN SOME DISCUSSIONS, BUT WAS
NOT IN THE FISA CHAIN.
>> WHO -- ON THAT NOTE, WHO
BRIEFED THE AGENT THAT WAS SENT
TO SURVEIL MICHAEL FLYNN IN THE
MEETING WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP?
THAT WAS DISCUSSED UP AND DOWN
THE CHAIN AT THE FBI SO THAT WAS
NOT A HIDDEN FACT OR HIDDEN
INFORMATION.
INFORMATION. >> I LIKE THE FACT YOU AND YOUR
TEAM ARE VERY PRECISE IN YOUR
LANGUAGE.
LANGUAGE. I MEAN, I -- FRANKLY, I WISH I
WROTE AS WELL AS YOU AND YOUR
TEAM DID.
TEAM DID. AND I NOTICED YOU WERE CAREFUL
TO SAY, WE’LL QUOTE HERE, WE DID
NOT FIND DOCUMENTARY OR
TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE THAT
POLITICAL BIAS OR IMPROPER
MOTIVATION INFLUENCED THE
DECISIONS TO OPEN THE FOUR
INDIVIDUAL INVESTIGATIONS.
INDIVIDUAL INVESTIGATIONS. YOUR WORDS.
YOUR WORDS. >> CORRECT.
>> CORRECT. >> NO DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE AND
NO TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE.
SO, YOU DIDN’T FIND ANY
DOCUMENTS THAT SAID, WE DID THIS
TO GET TRUMP, RIGHT?
>> OR TEXT MESSAGES LIKE THE
STRZOK/PAGE TEXT MESSAGES.
>> AND NOBODY WHO WAS INVOLVED
IN THIS OCCUR SIS WITHOUT A TENT
LOOKED YOU IN THE EYE AND SAID,
YIP, I DID IT TO GET TRUMP.
NOBODY DID THAT.
>> OR, FOR EXAMPLE, A
WHISTLE-BLOWER COME IN OR OTHER
PEOPLE TELL US --
>> CORRECT.
>> CORRECT. NONE OF THE AGENTS YOU TALKED TO
LOOKED YOU IN THE EYE AND SAID,
YOU’RE RIGHT, I DID IT TO GET
TRUMP.
TRUMP. >> AND NOBODY CAME IN THROUGH A
DIFFERENT MEANS AND SAID, I’VE
GOT A PROBLEM HERE.
WHAT’S GOING ON?
>> I MEAN, YOU DON’T HAVE TO
QUALIFY AS MENSA MATERIAL TO
KNOW WANT TO DO THAT TO THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL, RIGHT?
>> YES, ALTHOUGH LOOK AT SOME OF
THE TEXT MESSAGES WE FOUND.
I’M NOT SURE --
>> I UNDERSTAND.
>> THAT MAY BE A COUNTER
NARRATIVE TO THAT.
>> I DON’T WANT TO GET TOO I
DON’T KNOW THE WORD, BUT IS
THE -- IS THE ABSENCE OF
EVIDENCE ALWAYS THE EVIDENCE OF
ABSENCE?