it was 40 feet between the vice
president and the mob.
Mr. Jacob, you were there seeing
it for the first time, does it
surprise you to see how close
the mob was to the evacuation
route that you took?
40 feet is the distance from me
to you, roughly.
Mr. Jacob: I could hear the
rioters in the building while we
moved, but I do not think I was
aware that they were as close as
that.
Rep. Aguilar: Make no mistake
about the fact that the vice
president life -- vice
president's life was in danger.
A filing explains that a
confidential informant from the
proud boys told the FBI that the
proud boys would've killed Mike
pence if given a chance.
This witness, whom that FBI
affidavit refers to as w1,
stated other members of the
group talked about things they
did that day.
And they said that anyone they
got their hands on they would've
killed, including Nancy Pelosi.
W1 further stated members of the
proud boys said they would've
killed Mike pence if given the
chance.
We understand that congressional
leaders and others were
evacuated from the capitol
complex during the attack.
We would like to show you what
happened after the vice
president was evacuated.
>> The select committee has
obtained never before seen
photos from the national
archives that show vice
president pence sheltering in a
secure underground location, as
rioters overwhelmed the capitol.
At 4:19 P.M., the vice president
is seen looking at a tweet the
president had sent, a tweet
asking the rioters to leave the
capitol.
After four and a half hours
spent working to restore order,
the vice president returned to
the senate for to continue the
certification of elections.
Rep. Aguilar: Vice president
pence was a focus of the violent
attack.
Did the vice president leave the
complex during the attack?
Mr. Jacob: He did not.
Rep. Aguilar: Can you explain
why he refused to leave?
Mr. Jacob: When we got down to
the secure location, the secret
service directed us to get into
the cars.
Which I did.
And then I noticed the vice
president had not.
So I got out of the car I had
gotten into and I understood the
vice president had refused to
get into the car.
The head of his secret service
detail had said, I assure you,
we are not going to drive out of
the building.
The vice president said
something to the effect of, Tim,
I know you and I trust you.
You are not the one behind the
wheel.
The vice president did not want
to take any chance that the
world would see the vice
president of the United States
fleeing the United States
capitol.
It was -- he was determined to
complete the work that we had
set out to do that day.
It was his constitutional duty
to see it through.
And that the rioters who had
breached the capitol would not
have the satisfaction of
disrupting the proceedings
beyond the day they were
supposed to be completed.
Rep. Aguilar: You are told to
get in the cars, and how many of
the vice president's staff got
in the cars while he did not?
Mr. Jacob: Most of us.
Rep. Aguilar: During our
investigation, we received a
testimony that while the vice
president was in a secure
location, he continued the
business of government.
We understand the vice president
reached out to congressional
leaders like the acting
secretary of defense, and
others, to check on their safety
and address the growing crisis.
In addition, the vice
president's chief of staff made
several calls to senior
government officials.
Here is Mr. Short's testimony
regarding his call with Kevin
Mccarthy.
Mr. Short: He indicated that he
had had some conversation, I do
not recall, with the president
or somebody at the white house.
I think he expressed frustration
that not taking the
circumstances seriously in that
moment.
>> Mr. Mccarthy indicated he had
been in touch with someone at
the white house and conveyed to
you that they were not taking it
as seriously as they should, yes
or no?
Mr. Short: Ok.
Rep. Aguilar: While the vice
president made calls to check on
the safety of others, it was his
own life that was in great
danger.
Did Donald Trump called the vice
president to check on his
safety?
Mr. Jacob: He did not.
Rep. Aguilar: How do vice
president pence and misses pence
react to that -- Mrs. Pence
react to that?
Mr. Jacob: With frustration.
>> Immediately before you and
the vice president were
evacuated to a secure location
within the capitol, you hit
send on an emailed to John
Eastman explaining why his legal
theory about the vice
president's role was wrong.
You ended the email by stating,
"Thanks to your bull-- we are
now under siege."
And we will take a look at that
email.
Dr. Eastman replied, and this is
hard to believe, his reply back
to you was, "The siege is
because you and your Bos,
referring to the vice president,
did not do what was necessary to
allow this to be aired in a
public way so the American
people could see what happened."
Later that day, you wrote again
to Dr. Eastman.
Let's show that email.
In that email, you wrote, and I
quote, "Did you advise the
president that in your
professional judgment the vice
president does not have the
power to decide things
unilaterally?"
You ended, "It does not appear
the president ever got the
memo."
Dr. Eastman replied, "He has
been so advised.
"
"But you know him, once he gets
something in his head it's hard
to get him to change course."
When Dr. Eastman wrote that, "
it's hard to get him to change
course," did you understand the
"He" to refer to the president
of the United States?
Mr. Jacob: I did.
>> Did you hear from Dr. Eastman
further after the ride had been
quelled?
If so, what did he ask?
Mr. Jacob: Late that evening,
after the joint session have
been reconvened, the vice
president had given a statement
to the nation saying the
violence was not going to win,
freedom wins, and that the
people would get back to doing
their work.
Um, later that evening, Mr.
Eastman emailed me to point out
that in his view the vice
president's speech to the nation
violated the electoral count
act.
That the act had been violated
because the debate in Arizona
had not been completed in two
hours.
Of course it couldn't be because
there was an intervening riot
for several hours.
And that the speeches that the
majority and minority leaders
also violated the act because
they had not been counted
against the debate time.
He implored me, now that we have
established that the electoral
count act is not so sacrosanct
as you have made it out to be,
an employee you one last time
can the vice president please do
what we have been asking him to
do these last two days, suspend
the session and send it back to
the states?
>> We will show you the text of
the email, which Dr. Eastman
wrote at 11:44 P.M. On January
6.
After the attack on the capitol,
after law enforcement had
secured the capital, he still
wrote, "So now that the
president has been said that the
electoral count act is not so
sacrosanct as was previously
claimed, night implored you to
consider one more relatively
minor violation and adjourn for
10 days to allow the
legislatures to finish their
investigation."
So even after the attack on the
capitol had been quelled, Dr.
Eastman suggested, in writing no
less, that the vice president
violate the law by delaying the
certification and ascending the
question back to the states,
correct?
Mr. Jacob: It is.
>> Did you eventually share Dr.
Eastman's proposal with the vice
president?
Mr. Jacob: Not right at that
time because the vice president
was completing work that it was
his duty to do.
But a day or two later at the
white house, I did show him that
final email from Mr. Eastman.
>> What was vice president
pence's reaction when you showed
him the email from Dr. Eastman,
still asking the vice president
send it back to the states?
Mr. Jacob: He said that is
rubber ruin stuff.
Rubber room stuff.
>> What did you interpret that
to mean?
Mr. Jacob: I understood that to
mean after having it play out,
what happens when you convince
people that there is a decision
to be made in the capitol
legitimately about who is to be
the president, and the
consequences of that, he was
still pushing us to do what he
had been asking us to do for the
previous two days.
That that was certifiably crazy.
>> We know the vice president
did not do what Dr. Eastman
requested because he presided
over the completion of the
counting of the electoral votes
late in the evening.
>> The number of electors
appointed to vote for the
president of the night states is
528, the majority is 270.
The votes for president of the
United States are as follows.
Joseph R Biden junior of the
state of Delaware has received
306 votes.
Donald J. Trump of the state of
Florida has received 232 votes.
The whole number of electors
appointed to vote for vice
president of the United States,
538, within that whole number a
majority is 270.
The votes for vice president are
as follows, Kamala Harris of the
state of California has received
306 votes.
Michael pence of the state of
Indiana has received 232 votes.
The announcement of the state of
the vote by the president of the
senate shall be deemed a
sufficient declaration of the
persons elected president and
vice president of the united
States, each with a term
beginning on the 20th of
January, 2021 and shall be
entered together with a list of
the votes on late journals of
the senate and house of
representatives.
Rep. Aguilar: We heard earlier
that you and the vice president
and team started January 6 with
a prayer.
You faced a lot of danger that
day.
This is a personal question, how
did your faith guide you on
January 6?
Mr. Jacob: My faith really
sustained me through it.
I -- in the secure location, I
pulled out my bible and I read
through it.
And I just took great comfort.
Daniel IV is where I went.
Daniel has become the second in
command of battle -- of babylon,
a pagan nation, but he
faithfully serves.
He refuses an order from the
king he cannot follow, and he
does his duty in consistent with
his oath to god.
And I felt that that had played
out that day.
Rep. Aguilar: It spoke to you?
Mr. Jacob: Yes.
Rep. Aguilar: At the end of the
day, mark short sent the vice
president a text message, a
bible verse.
Here is what he told the select
committee.
>> At 3:50 A.M. In the morning,
we finally adjourned and headed
our ways.
I remember texting in the vice
president a passage from second
Timothy, chapter four, verse
seven.
I fought the good fight, I
finished the race, I kept the
faith.
Rep. Aguilar: It ended with a
prayer -- it started with a
prayer, it ended with a bible