Often I hear, “I don’t want to be around that person because I don’t trust them anymore.”
And so my question to them—and I’ve seen this at the very top of some of the largest
companies, globally—is: what caused that trust to break down?
And we each interpret even that word “trust” differently.
And so you have to break it down into behaviors.
So when you’re trying to reconnect with someone, it means going back to what initially
caused that break to happen and question your bias on many levels, including how you envision
the break down in trust to happen.
And I think it’s the word “respect”—actually the root of it—means the ability to see
one as if for the first time again.
And I think we have to all challenge ourselves to know that because someone was difficult
in one situation or even multiple situations it doesn’t mean they’re going to be difficult
forever.
That we’re constantly working on this ability that we all have, and this necessity we all
have to connect, and maybe there’s multitudes of other things going on, but to constantly
come back to that place of, “Okay, what do I need right now, here in this moment,
to build connection with this person?”
Jennifer Brown: That’s such good advice.
I would add: forgiveness is powerful.
I’d say second and third and fourth chances, and I agree with you that people change.
So how somebody was in a particular context or situation might not have been their best
self.
There may have been intervening circumstances.
So I don’t think we can—can we ever really say that “someone is this way with me and
I know that it’s a fact”?
I’ve really learned that there’s no door that’s ever really closed— unless I think
it is, and sometimes I’m wrong.
Many times I’m wrong about that.
So I do really challenge myself to look at every situation and person anew as often as
I can.
And sometimes that includes forgiveness, it includes the acknowledgement that maybe your
opinion about what happened is a subjective one, and may not be the reality.
Angie McArthur: Yes, and it comes back to, always: the more certain we are, the more
stuck we will remain.
So if I am certain a person is a certain way, shows up a certain thing, that creates this,
you know—it creates certainty.
So again, it’s shifting from certainty to discovery.
And I’m not saying this is easy.
It’s difficult.
I’ve been in some of the literally toughest conversations with people where someone is
so—what we literally would say is absolutely closed-minded.
Like it doesn’t matter what I say or do, they are of that opinion.
They are so certain.In that moment you do need to ask yourself: How do I want to leave
this conversation?
I know I have enough self-respect and respect for the work of diversity and inclusion that
I want to leave this person with, ‘I hear where you are coming from and I hope one day
you will be able to listen to where I’m coming from.’You know, so it’s always
that question: how do you want to leave that conversation, with that sense of self-respect?
That's ultimately what is so important.
You can’t change people in that moment.
But you can respect yourself and you can at least have them have the experience of being
respected.
They may not be able to show the same to you, but we have to be willing to be okay that
we don’t agree, but it doesn’t mean we disrespect one another or have to disconnect.Because
until we can bridge and find these places where we can connect, where our differences
lie will eventually hopefully be the places we can bridge.
Not right out the door; we may have to connect on other things first.
The name of my company is Professional Thinking Partners and that is a very specific way in
which we can all start bridging diversity, is invite thinking partners into your life
who are as different from you as you can possibly imagine.
Call them.
Ask them: “Here’s a problem I’m facing.
How would you approach it?”
You know, we talked earlier about mentorship and sponsorship; I love creating thinking
partnerships with the people who are the most different than me because that perspective,
you know—that’s a way that we can also start to build these bridges.
Jennifer Brown: Thank you so much.
Fascinating.