- Hey hey podcast people!
Welcome back to video number two of this four part series.
Editing your podcast from start to finish.
I'm really excited about these videos.
If you're tuning into this video for the first time
you might wanna go check out video one here.
That's where we talk about
the first step in the editing process.
It's a quick video, we talk about normalizing.
And go into a little bit of the differences between;
Automatic normalizing or normalizing manually,
and normalizing versus compressions.
So definitely check that video out.
Now we're gonna jump into really the nitty, gritty,
and the bulk of the editing process of editing a podcast.
And that is cutting out the garbage.
We're gonna trim it down we're gonna cut out the ums
and we're gonna cut out big sections
that we don't want in there.
And before we get to it, don't forget
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And what do you say we get to it.
(upbeat jazz music)
So let's look at the session.
If you remember from the previous video
we've already normalized this
and then boosted the overall gain of both tracks.
You can see there's a six DB gain
that's been boosted to both of these tracks,
Veronica's tracks here, Steven's tracks here.
And I also created a group for these two
by highlighting them together and pressing CTRL G
for group or Command G for group on a Mac.
And then I named the group Dudes.
And if it's highlighted then these will be grouped together
and I'll be able to slide them around
and any cuts I make will make equally on both of them
without them losing their relationship.
The time relationship they have together.
It's very important to group our tracks
whether it's with two voices, or four voices,
on your podcast episode other wise you get into
massive headaches when you're trying to do the editing
and you accidentally slide one off of the other one.
We're trying to get really efficient because,
editing takes a long time and we want it
to be as efficient as possible.
So, hang around till the end of this video
and you will become so much quicker
and better at editing in Pro tools.
Okay, so let's dive into this.
I'm so happy to share this with you guys
because this is the biggest reason
that Pro tools is my favorite
DAW to use for editing podcasts.
And it really all comes down to this
sweet and tasty smart tool right here.
Do you remember the quick key for the smart tool?
F6 and F7 and F8 all together.
If you're on a Mac and you're having trouble
with that you might have to go into your settings
and tell your settings to use or turn on
the F1 or the function keys.
So that the function keys work properly
in Pro tools here because you need those quick keys.
So, by using the different quick keys,
the tools here, the smart tool,
and also utilizing the modes of operation
here in Pro tools we're gonna get lightning fast
at being able to cruise through this edit.
The two that we're gonna use is Shuffle,
which if you remember you press F1 to get Shuffle.
And we're gonna use Slip, which is F2.
I'm not gonna use Spot or Grid.
Spot is really good for like film production stuff.
And Grid is perfect for music production.
But I'm not really gonna snap any of this stuff
to a grid or spot this stuff or Snap it to a certain spot
by a time stamp or anything.
Instead, I'm just gonna be shuffling it,
locking things together, and slipping it around,
and having all sorts of nasty fun with this.
So there's really no way around it.
You have listen to the entire episode.
You have to listen to the whole thing
so you know what's going on.
And so that's why I encourage people
to be as prepared as they can with their podcast episodes.
You don't have to be scripted by any means.
But at least have an outline and go over
what you're gonna talk about with your co-host beforehand.
And try to keep your episodes as short as you can.
For the sake of your editor and especially
if you're editing themselves.
That is first thing you could do
to get back on the time it takes to edit.
And so you'll see when I have everything selected
here up in this menu here, I can see
that this is 45 minutes that we spent talking.
And generally I like to keep our podcast episodes.
I like to keep them under half an hour if possible.
Some of you have to go through here
and find a creative way to cut out 15-18 minutes
of what Veronica and I were talking about
and make it more concise for the listeners.
What I'll do is I'll just go through
the first little bit and I'll start editing
and talk about some of the functions
and explain how I'm doing things.
And then, I will time lapse the rest of it for you,
because you don't need to sit here for the whole hour.
And then after that I'll show you how we finalize
and get finished with this process.
And then we'll move on to video number three.
Which is sound treating.
Going through and adding compression,
EQ, DS'ers, and also noise reduction
and things like that.
So what I do is I first kinda zoom in
using the command or CTRL bracket
into the first part of the episode.
And I know that this stuff right here
is just us kinda getting into it.
So let's just have a taste of.
Have a peep of where we're at here.
- [Podcast Speaker] Hey, hey everyone.
Welcome back to another episode of Pod Sound School.
- I know that I'm just sort of introducing the live there.
Okay so I think we actually started here, let's see.
- [Podcast Speaker] See she's so good she knows the...
Hey guys.
- There we go, so that's where I want...
That's where the episode actually starts.
All this stuff was just banter
and us getting into our live videos.
So there's lots of ways that you can cut this out here.
The easiest way is just to grab it and delete.
And then you can click on this.
Notice I'm on the smart tool so when I hover to the bottom
half of any region there is a grabber tool
and if I hover to the top half there's the cursor tool.
This is why it's so nice to have this smart tool here.
So if I undo what I just did.
I was at the top half for the region
so I could grab it with this smart tool and just grab
a chunk and press the delete key.
And now simply by going down to the bottom half
of the region I've got the smart tool,
I can highlight this and press delete.
You can see how after you get used to these tools
you can start getting very quick at this.
Now if I put my cursor here I can go to the front.
I can either grab my bracket and pull it in,
which I do sometimes but I've kind of just gotten
to the point of doing that really quickly,
'cause that to me is just as quick.
But there's hundred of ways to bake a cake right.
you just need to know about these.
And if I go to the top of either mine or Veronica's track,
you'll see this fade tool.
So I'll go ahead and give myself a little fade in.
And then here's the beginning of the episode.
- [Podcast Speaker] Hey guys, welcome back
to the Pod Sound School podcast.
I am Studio Steve and I'm here with lovely Veronica.
- [Veronica] Hello mis amigos.
- [Podcast Speaker] Today's a very important epi--
- Now, what I could do here is to,
lets say I want to cut this little breath
that I had and actually make me talk a little quicker.
Just to already start speeding things up.
Well, one quick way to do that
is to bust over to the shuffle.
At this point in the editing I will continue
to be in shuffle for the majority of the time.
Shuffle is really cool and let me show you why.
Right here, if I know I just wanna cut this part out
and I highlight the part I wanna cut out
and I press the delete key, it will shuffle it
where it needs to be and then I can simply
come to the bottom part of either Veronica's
region or my region here and I can pull across
fade in like that.
Like I said in the previous video.
When we were doing normalizing,
manual normalizing, it's always a good idea to listen.
Again, I've gotten so familiar with doing these cross fades
that I can do them visually
without listening most of the time.
But you wanna have a listen
to how the cross fades sound and how your cuts sound
when you're first getting started.
So that you don't get too far into the session
and have to go and redo everything
because you did it too aggressively or a lot of times
we can make these too big.
That's pretty common.
A nice small cross fade is usually a good idea
for most cross fades.
- [Veronica] Hello mis amigos.
- [Podcast Speaker] Today's a very important episode.
If you've been to--
- [Veronica] I'm Dora the explorer.
- [Podcast Speaker] She is.
(laughing)
Now, if you've been tuning in for the last--
- I like that Dora the explorer joke.
I don't know if we get it
when we're not on the live session or not.
- [Veronica] Hello mis amigos.
- So let's see what we can do
about snipping that out of the way right.
Let's go like this.
- [Podcast Speaker] Today's a very important episode.
If you--
- Right here, this is right where I say if.
And if you highlight anything and press the...
- [Podcast Speaker] If you.
If you.
- It allows you to press space and if you have enough
of the region selected like this
and press the space bar for play.
- [Podcast Speaker] If you've been.
If you've been.
If you've been. It will loop play.
That's called loop playback and you'll see up here
on the play button there's a little loop sign.
Sometimes our session won't be set up in loop playback.
And if it's not you might have to go up in here
into the options drop down menu
and select loop play back here.
Or you can see it's CTRL Shift L.
And see now the loop playback's not on.
I like to have that loop playback back on
because it's nice when you're really trying
to just find a single word.
But this right here I know that's the if.
- [Podcast Speaker] If.
If.
- So If you've been seeing--
- [Veronica] I'm Dora the--
- So, if I'm gonna cut that out.
And now I'm gonna go find where my other if is
after Veronica's joke
that I'm not gonna include in this episode.
- [Podcast Speaker] If you've been--
- Right there.
So now I can highlight this, delete this,
grab this chunk here, delete that.
And now I've replaced the if for this if.
And let's go ahead and zoom in.
And we can use the bracket here now to fine tune
where that happened.
And as we're fine tuning it'll sort of shuffle it together
'cause I'm in shuffle mode.
I'll do a little bit of a cross fade there.
And let's have a listen now.
- [Veronica] Amigos.
- [Podcast Speaker] Today's a very important episode.
If you've been tuning in for--
- So that sounds pretty good to me.
I think that was pretty good.
Sometimes you can get a little harsh with it
but let's try that.
Here we go.
- [Podcast Speaker] Episode.
If you've been tuning in for the last couple--
- I wanna cut out that uh I said.
So I delete it and because it's in shuffle
mode the uh is gone.
- [Podcast Speaker] So if you've been tuning in
for the last couple of episodes,
we have reached out and attracted--
- There's an uh reached out.
So I could kill that uh.
Sometimes you try to make these adjustments.
You try to get some uhs and some things
out of the way and it doesn't sound right.
It's too hard so sometimes we have to leave
certain ums and uhs there.
Because it's just too difficult for us to cut them out
and still have them be natural.
- [Podcast Speaker] Tuning in for the last couple
of episodes, we have reached out and attracted a bunch of--
- So you see I said we have...
Uh reached out and now it's just a seamless--
- [Podcast Speaker] In for the last couple of episodes,
we have reached out and attracted a bunch of new listeners.
We wanna say hey to everyone-- - Welcome.
- Who has subscribed to us on Overcast.
So I'll just say, yeah, welcome back
to the Pod Sound School.
We've got Dora the explorer over there and I'm Studio Steve.
- [Veronica] Hola amigos.
(laughs)
- Okay.
- [Podcast Speaker] Yeah so what's this episode
about today Veronica?
- [Veronica] What are--
- Okay so I'm gonna come in there with this.
So let's see.
- [Podcast Speaker] As we love all our listeners over there.
- And let's do this.
- [Podcast Speaker] Yeah so what's this episode
all about today Veronica?
- [Veronica] What are your goals--
- Let's try that.
Right.
So now--
- [Podcast Speaker] 'Cause we love Overcast
and we love all our listeners over there.
Yeah so what's--
- So now I've probably already cut
30-34 seconds a minute out of it.
Actually even longer than that 'cause I cut
a good couple minutes off the beginning.
So I'm already trimming it down quite a bit.
Just with what I've done so far here.
Okay this is great, so let me show you this little chunk
here where she's speaking naturally and show you
some different ways I can edit that up a little bit too.
And then we'll be done with this part.
You'll see some different ways that you can cut
and how much you can manipulate your audio.
It's pretty cool.
- [Podcast Speaker] It's not gonna be easy
for you to attract followers.
- [Veronica] I have something to say about that,
just the tipping the toes and that.
- So let's just-- To say about that.
- Let's just go like this.
Boom!
- [Podcast Speaker] Attract followers.
- [Veronica] I have something to say about that,
I just think that you--
- I'm probably not gonna be able to cut out the uh.
- [Veronica] I just think--
- This right here.
Maybe let's see.
I just think instead of I just uh think.
- [Veronica] I just think that--
- Yes!
See now I got that uh outta there.
It's much better.
- [Veronica] I just think that you either have to go--
- Now she said about three you's there.
And that's very common, so many speakers say
you, you, you need to do something.
So let's take out two of those you's.
- [Veronica] You, you, you.
- So there's three you's and you notice I could hear
all three of them like some kinda cool beat.
- [Veronica] You, you, you.
You, you, you.
- But that allows us, by loop play backing it there,
to kill these first two and then do a cross fade.
Maybe let's even...
That was with the bracket tool.
- [Veronica] I just think that you either have to go
all in or not even try it.
- Boom.
- [Veronica] All in or not even try it.
- Now that, was something I probably could've done faster
if I wasn't also explaining this to you and it is tedious,
it is time consuming to do that.
But man has it made her sound so much more intelligible.
Just those little things.
We took out those you's and things.
- [Veronica] I have something to say about that,
I just think that you either have to go all in
or not even try it.
- [Podcast Speaker] Yeah.
- [Veronica] Because--
- And here we go again.
- [Podcast Speaker] Yeah.
- [Veronica] Because you know,
that's why there are systems in--
You know that's why there are systems in place and that's--
- See now here's some staggering
until she's getting to her next point.
- [Veronica] There are systems in place
and that's why you do--
- So none of this we need.
- [Veronica] There's there.
There's that.
- There's there.
There's that.
That's why she's thinking, her brains processing
what she's gonna say next.
And all of us do that.
- [Veronica] That's why there's systems in place
and that's why--
- You heard something there right?
One of the there's was left over.
So I need to make sure to...
- [Veronica] Place and that's why--
- There we go.
- [Veronica] In place and that's why you do market research,
you do competitor analysis and you do so,
so when you get to sit down and record
you are already %90 sure that you're gonna have
listeners for your podcast.
So you either go in--
- You see I killed another mouth click there.
- [Veronica] So you either go in or not do the tippy toe
thing because after a while then you're gonna--
So you either go in or not do the tippy toe thing
because after a while then you're gonna just give up
on the whole thing.
- [Podcast Speaker] Yeah.
- [Veronica] Just do it.
- Okay so, there we go.
I showed you how aggressive you can get.
You can take out ums, you can take out a staggering.
You wanna take out any time we think
that we wanna do something, let's go in and take out
all those extra takes, all those extra ums,
all those extra things.
And let's make ourselves, make our co-hosts,
make our clients, let's make them sound more intelligible.
Who wouldn't wanna sound more intelligible?
And let's also squeeze and cut out the junk.
And let's take some time to edit properly.
You owe that to yourself.
You owe that to your clients.
You owe that to your listeners.
They're going to appreciate it a lot.
Nobodies gonna complain, hey you left all that stagger.
You took all that staggering out.
And you took all the ums and uhs and the likes out.
They won't complain.
Editing however should be seamless
and you don't want them to hear all the cuts.
And that's why Pro tools is a very, very, awesome
option for podcast editing.
So I'm gonna go ahead and shut my camera off here
and allow you just to...
I'll keep the screen recording here.
Maybe do a time lapse of it.
So that you can see the process
of going through the rest of it.
This will take me probably about another
45 minutes or so to go through it.
And cut it out, and chop it all up.
And make it all small.
And then we'll pop back in very quickly after that.
To talk about the final stages we do before
we get ready to treat the voice
on video number three of this series.
Okay so let's do that.
(relaxing jazz)
Okay there you have it guys.
Another 45 minutes later and we are set to go here.
And you can see how crazy this looks.
And if you wanna check the time ever of regions.
As you're going along you'll wanna check the time.
You can always highlight something
when you're on the cursor here.
And then look up here into this section.
This main section here and it will tell you
the length of what's highlighted.
So now it's about 24 minutes.
So I was able to take that 45 minutes
and condense it down to under half an hour.
Which is what I wanted to do.
That leaves a little time for an intro piece
and an outro piece which will be nice in this episode.
So this looks pretty good.
I chopped it up.
I did everything that I was telling you.
There was a couple other places where I took out
some of those plosives and I made a couple
of volume adjustments and things with the gain
as I went along with it.
So the first video in this series.
When we were talking about normalizing.
I do an extra little normalizing as I go along
with this step as well too.
And that's what I mentioned in that video.
You can also wait until this step is completed
and do the normalizing then.
So now that this is done,
what I wanna do is consolidate these.
When these two tracks are grouped together.
When it says dudes here and they're grouped together.
I can actually make a duplicate
and it will do it to all of the tracks
that are grouped together.
Which is pretty nifty.
So now the number has been changed to three.
And these are now a duplicate track.
I like to do that because if I have to go back
and slide a certain part of the edit out,
it's gonna be just this wave right.
So, if I zoom in toward the end here.
And I go to the bottom half of the region.
So that my grabber tool is selected.
Or I could always press F8
and only have my grabber tool be selected.
And then I zoom out to the beginning and I grab
one of the regions towards the beginning.
And then of course control bracket to the right.
Or command bracket to the right.
So that I can zoom out there
and now I know I have both of these selected.
Then again I can press shift option three or shift+Alt+3
and here we go.
All right!
That's beautiful.
So now I have my condensed podcast episode.
This is really nice.
Okay that's it for this episode.
This is episode two of this four part series.
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and I'll respond to ya.
Okay let's not waste anymore time.
Have a quick drink, do a stretch.
And then let's bust in to video number three
where we're gonna talk all about applying effects
and sweetening up these vocal sounds.