>> Now that we have a clear understanding of what
the migrant detention centers look like, and keep in mind that two dozen migrants have
died in US custody.
We have Lindsey Graham, essentially saying that he does not care about the rule of law,
and he certainly doesn't care about the conditions in which these migrants are held in.
Take a look.
>> What I saw is a bunch of people who have been here before, broke the law before, and
we're not gonna let them go.
I don't care if they have to stay in these facilities for 400 days, we're not gonna let
those men go that I saw, it would be dangerous.
>> He's referencing men that he saw, right?
>> Right.
>> So here's what he's talking about.
He actually accompanied Vice President Mike Pence to two detention facilities in Texas.
And this video actually got a lot of negative attention.
Well, just watch the video, keep an eye on the conditions in which these men are kept
in.
So you have men in an overcrowded cage, essentially.
They're talking about how they haven't been given a shower, they're begging for showers.
And you might not be able to hear clearly, but in that same video, you hear someone say
three tacos a day, meaning that's all they get to eat.
And so they're hungry.
>> Mm-hm.
>> They're kept in these terrible conditions, it's overcrowded, they can't sleep.
And you have Lindsey Graham saying, I don't care if they have to stay there for 400 days.
And by the way, one other video that went viral, and we could toss to this now but keep
my mic up, featured Pence essentially examining these men in the cages, as if he's looking
or keeping an eye on cattle, it's just sick.
>> It's an overseeing look over subhuman conditions, honestly.
>> Mm-hm.
>> Or as you said, it does look like there's animals behind cages, and he's making sure
they're staying there.
Now, what he's trying to do is look like he's taking this seriously, and he's being told
some conditions that he's being updated on by this.
I'm not sure which level of officer this is that's giving him the tour.
Also reporters were in there with him, they stayed for like one minute and a half, and
they got a chance to really survey the conditions.
Now, when Trump a few or maybe even last week said, I want the media to come in and check
out these facilities, I want them to come.
I'm now thinking yeah, but how soon?
Which ones?
And are you going to make sure they're gonna be camera ready.
>> Mm-hm.
>> I overestimated even what they would do then.
So you have the cameras come in, you have the Vice President go in, and they look like
this?
>> Yep.
>> This is what you wanted to portray when you’re setting it up?
>> You know why?
Because we all see it, it's just right there in plain sight.
>> What are those blankets, why?
>> That's what they get, they get foiled blankets.
>> Those are like the solar blankets, or whatever they're called.
And then- >> So following this video going viral, Pence
started complaining about the media's portrayal of the detention facilities.
>> Look at that.
>> We see it right there, it's in front of us.
And he tried to spin it as if the conditions are great, and they're kept in sanitary and
safe spaces.
No, but they're not.
But the reason why I bring that up, the reason why they didn't really prepare and get this
place media-ready, it's because they can just turn around and twist things, and spin things
in any way they want.
Again, the Trump administration, Trump specifically has a 90% approval rating from Republican
voters.
He can do anything and get away with it.
And what we just saw might upset us, but apparently Republican voters love it.
>> This is what happens when you can start your presidential campaign and say they're
rapists, they're drug dealers, they're killers that come in for your family, look out for
them, and then from then on, continues.
By the way, that type of rhetoric didn't start with Donald Trump, we know that.
>> Mm-hm.
>> It's one of the things that's happened throughout history with anyone that we've
oppressed, that we've mistreated, that we've killed.
They're not really human.
So then therefore, once we treat them like they're not really human, and you've been
brainwashed enough with this, you can say, well, who cares?
They're not really human.
If you got cattle behind a fence, that's okay, and they're supposed to be there, what if
they run off?
So you have this mindset already set in place, so they can do this and carry it on, no matter
what happens, no matter what else they do to people.
And then after all lying I see it and we complain about it, then they go, what are you guys
so mad about?
>> Mm-hm.
>> They're illegals is what they call them, these terms that they put on us.
It's very subtle things, actually it's not that subtle, but they put these terms on people,
and next you know, you don't care about them anymore.
>> Right, and they're trying to normalize what we saw.
What we just saw were a bunch of men with aluminum foil blankets.
>> Mm-hm.
>> And standing all together, you couldn't lay down or sit down if you wanted to.
You'd be in fear of being trampled, and this is supposed to be a good thing.
Also they're all in long sleeves and hoodies, when we know it's 190 degrees outside.
Which makes me worried about how, ridiculously cold and uncomfortable it is in there, while
they only have what we saw as blankets.
That video right there that they're proud of, and that's supposed to prove that all
of these other people are lying.
That looks terrible.
>> I know.
>> And both of you are right, that rhetoric didn't start with Trump, but people are happy
that they have someone speaking for him.
Nobody's learning from him, it's just nice for a lot of terrible people to have someone
to feel comfortable saying out loud how they treat people behind the scenes, and sometimes
right in front.
But they have a leader who gets to stand on a global platform, and speak like them.
>> Absolutely.
>> Yeah.
>> And for Trump, this is part of his campaign, this is part of his re-election campaign.
Again, about 30% of voters look at that and they think, yep, we gonna vote in favor of
re-election.
>> Yeah.
>> So again, we look at that and we're disgusted by it because we see those people as people.
Whereas a portion of this country does not see them as people, these migrants have been
dehumanized by politicians in this country for a very long time.
>> Yeah, and what he said, I saw people who should never be let free in this country,
I just saw brown people.
>> Mm-hm.
>> I didn't see anybody wielding a machete, and if you saw someone who was just such a
wild danger by just on appearance, you know that they cannot be in this country, and it's
not because of your racism >> Yeah
>> Why are they in there with all of the other people?
Why are they not a danger to all of the other people, they're still humans, and you claim
to care about humans, it's just the law that you're focused on.
So why would those people that you see, why are you standing so close to them?
Why would that scary awful person that you see that just cannot set foot free in America,
what did you see?
We know what he saw, but- >> Let me just quickly note something, because
Thomas Homan who is the former acting ICE director, apparently in 2017 sends some interesting
things about migrants.
While the right wing demigods and fearmongers about how these are dangerous criminals that
we need to look out for them.
Homan was on the record saying the following to reporters Did I say aliens commit more
crimes than US citizens?
I didn't say that, I'm saying, number one, they're in the country illegally.
They already committed one crime by entering the country illegally.
But when they commit a crime against a citizen of this country, they draw our attention.
Jim Acosta also spoke to him off camera later and said, at off-cam White House briefing
acting ICE director Homan, concedes undocumented immigrants do not commit more crimes than
native born Americans.
Look, they do this for political gain, fearmongering in politics has been a very successful strategy.
We saw that during the Bush administration, where Americans very willingly gave up their
civil liberties because they were afraid of terrorists.
And so our privacy, things that we should value as Americans were just given away because
we were afraid.
And the same thing is happening now when it comes to fearmongering in regard to undocumented
immigrants.
>> So we can, and this- >> And asylum seekers by the way, asylum seekers.
>> The legal means in which you become a citizen, or get granted entry in the United States.
>> We're gonna talk about the asylum stuff in a bit later on, but it's sort of as if
it's all mixed together, right?
And you can even look at those conditions and say, wow, there's these many people that
are trying to cross or have crossed our border, and have many recent years and months and
days and all that.
And you can be alarmed by that.
It's okay to still be alarmed by that and go man, this is an issue because it's a cost
because obviously facilities cost something to build or create or make humane, that's
a cost that's put in place, right?
And that's one of the things that Pence was talking about.
We need this 4.6 billion or something like that, I forget how much the exact number is.
We need that 4.6 which by the way they were given without any guidelines-
>> No strings attached.
>> On how they're gonna treat people there.
Let's just get this money and give it to us and we'll figure it out, the money was given
to you, why hasn't it been figured out yet?
Number one.
Number two, if everyone can't agree that there's an issue at the border, what are we gonna
do about the issue?
>> Yes.
>> Why is it happening?
>> Yes.
>> The thought process past one layer, is they're bad people.
That's what the American government's policy and position is.
There's they're bad people that have come, and we have to stop them.
Why are they coming?
What have we done to create a situation where they're coming?
And then we didn't expect it?
We've never expected immigration?
Cuz it's happening all the time, we're not prepared for it, we're not prepared to do
anything about the process.
Cuz we let a 100 people in and we go, we cannot have the facilities to do so, we don't have
the government officials to do this work.
Make it happen.
>> Mm-hm.
>> Right.
>> How is it you're not ready for that yet?
>> Well, I mean they don't care to be ready.
And while Trump had no problem declaring a national emergency to fund his border wall,
which by the way, what are the updates on the construction of that border wall, right?
Billions of dollars were diverted from disaster relief funds for that ridiculous, nonsensical,
and counterproductive border wall.
But at the same time, Trump has exacerbated the crisis at the border.
Because he's pulled away funding, to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, from the
very countries that we should be working with to improve the conditions there, so people
don't seek to flee, and seek asylum here in
the U.S.