halloween all hollers the here the list martha's where clothes and doctor steven
larson is with us
uh... psychologist author founder of the center for symbolic studies symbolic
studies dot or
ordeal is the website
uh... or friend steven at by the way what's your most recent books to them
uh... well i'm working on a book on dreams no to come all the way sharma ns
welcome dreams but uh...
the most recent book was called the neuro-feedback solution published uh...
by our own trends in your tradition that interpretations in
about may of two thousand twelve yeah
have been a brilliant piece of work it is
i'm steven you you mentions that we are
believe the i suppose
most modern people certainly western society we're descendants of people for
whom the super supernatural was their next-door neighbor
and we seem to have lost that although halloween reminds us every year your
refund that a little
well and uh... we exist uh... imitate
society which is in economic the
uh... cultures of the earth tom
uh...
we don't have any
belief in
uh... an invisible world
next to this one
uh... we don't uh... actor much uh...
track anymore with inserting with places like
heaven and hell or the
uh... mundo imagined all the whirlpool spirits right next to this one
anticipate and best quite different if you go to asia
or south america or if you're among traditional people anywhere
refined that those beliefs are local and well
and we
scientifically socialize people call them superstitions unfortunately
railways and what you're talking about is not
is not the uh...
the uh...
the notion of an after life without him up
barrel
apparel years f daryl
the afterlife is a part of it now
for many of those
society's there's a different idea them
uh... a single
truro duty in time and space and so to speak and then you need to go to heaven
or hell or uh...
limbo or something like that in any of those traditions there's an idea of an
eternal
returns so that nature is a great
uh... recycling
uh... process rather than a carnival
linear
uh... and of time uh...
mythology
which leads of course
armageddon of paranoia the idea that the end of the world is coming and up
uh... it might have felt like add to the folks in uh... queens and new jersey a
most looking at some of those images of buildings burning and
water flooding i said uh... huh
for those people two thousand twelve was right
it we'd be it is the end of the world and and for the people who have died why
is it that um... on this day and uh... halloween
so many cultures honor that walk between the world standard that we all
as you may as you know that we all sooner or later must do in other words
the transition from being alive to something else uh... in this physical
body
we believe any of the esoteric sources or uh...
that'd be the world's great spiritual traditions this
uh... identity with a body of with uh...
myself
uh... alienating where somebody in time and space is uh...
uh... e is misguided that that they're is more to us that we don't
innocence time when the body does that something
industrial zone and
along with that is the idea that we are surrounded right now by invisible stats
uh... our ancestors may
be with us just the other side of the fail we can't uh...
we can't hear them talking but uh... it's amazing that people in modern
uh... culture don't believe in invisible things because right now idon't know how
the homework voices reaching u_s_ sort of his adult life
was like william james amended his his is famous for the famous ecologist
this quote about you know honest maybe
other worlds that just that with the really the the the requisite time i've
it's been thirty years since i saw this quote ninety it's around us is but being
a arm which is the requisite touch it will it will deny part that the film
email you probably know better than me
round a slow why other forms of consciousness alone
parted from us by the film yesterday list but uh... the lightest touch from
beirut there are in all their completeness announced it
yeah and so when winnable we go into an altered state of consciousness end up
when my jobs is too
teenagers who who have uh...
grant themselves into
in sensibility and it's it's not a very good thing you can but it's not a very
good thing for
teenagers because their brains artfully forum nine and there are lasting kind of
developmental problems unit legalized it in uh... england only to make it illegal
again because you exactly
problems like that but teenagers in the world today
uh... if a large just fascinated by magic and by the world of the invisible
standby
uh... fantasy adventurers and or what kind of stuff that that uh... feeling
really talks to them
how does all this translate into hollowing what's the way ahead
bronze talk about halloween in the format so we have left with your
thoughts on this word word were discomfort
well you mentioned the be ideals for its allstate idea
winner person
is no longer wearing physical body
uh... it doesn't really feel like saint banished forever or disappeared into the
uh... into a hole in the ground or a funeral higher worked something like
that week
she'll then we remember them we made dream about them may happen
uh... so it seems that in some
way they are alive and very much
uh... with us in at china and throughout the pan asian world
the ideas very present matthew worshipping ancestors and then they will
bless you and send of innocence and
blessings on you
and that that that they will uh...
and if you don't do that that's not
so good uh...
you don't neglect
ancestors you give them offering jury members and every so often and in those
in the south american countries same thing that the other elsewhere toast
is a day of the dead which we think about the dearly beloved
who have gone on to the other world it's it's wonderful to have a whole day like
this
so halloween is it's more original form
uh...
part of the
freeh was a bit pre christian
so the celebration of the debt
only a i think so and i think it goes way back into uh...
celtic and there are also were northern european roots for it and uh...
cannot just about everybody fills in the world
christianity has its own
sort of polarized mythology about uh... heaven and hell and angels and demons so
what kind of thing but it's amazing if you get a room full of children
particularly
the chance to play in jewelsburg demand to know which still choose
which will which is demands
quirks because
but even find that it within it is more fun to attack the charity care or
to jump up and down and see mean things to each other and stuff like that
angel's gets very easy really alternate way after rounding the corners and you
don't accomplishments to sit around the neck while they work with the if i think
that's that's kind of the the the the the sad conception of of uh... of
you know an afterlife that we've been
we had a little less than a minute left uh... we're told doctor steven larson
uh... i'm curious your thoughts on this recent newsweek cover story have in
israel
well intellect i wrote a letter to usually tutsi
didn't publish because
uh... i went through at the same kind of death experience that doctor even
alexander went through uh... i was in bed for a week like he was uh... but
uh... instead for long enough uh... and uh...
you're really is
an extraordinary experience waiting for us when we die no that's not very much
uh... believed uh... in our culture and a tribute to kind of neurons bethany
but there is something out there that has been sentenced and was waiting for
this
let's hope doctor steven larson the thea psychologist author founder of the
center for symbolic studies
symbolic studies dot org is the website and great programs that doctor larson
has their check it out stephen thank you so much for being with us
always great talking without