I think a lot of people are
facing what your you know, when you came out, a lot of people
are hitting the United States right now from an immigration standpoint.
So that's part of why I wanted to do this interview,
is because there's a lot of people that are down
and out trying to figure out a way to, you know, to make their mark.
What was it that you you obviously you went from,
hey, hot, mud, hot to, you know, now I just talk to you before we start here.
You're doing multiple transactions in real estate.
You're living in Utah.
You're you're you're you're becoming educated.
You obviously got the Horatio Alger Award.
And so so what are what are how did you change
your mindset to, you know, to that next level?
Well, I was for and this organization called IOM,
they actually,
you know, came to the village and said, hey, you want to go to America?
And I was like, what is America?
You know, you know, coming from a third world country, you know,
being a four year old, I was like, does America even exist?
And, you know, I just knew that Asia was there's only one continent.
Like, you know, I was an educated about the seven continents.
You know, we started the process again.
My dad said, you know what? Let's not go.
We don't know where we're going to go. This is too scary.
We have never made that risk.
You know, in life you gotta take risk, right?
We had never met that risk and we were just too scared.
My dad was too scared and my dad didn't want to come.
But then we convince our dad. We convince our dad.
And finally we started the process and it took us one year.
And then finally, finally, finally, after so many much convincing,
they finally said, okay, you can go to Utah.
And that's how I got here from the refugee camp then.
Yeah, it's it's definitely a fascinating story for sure.
And so did your family.
Did they end up getting jobs and working?
So obviously, as I said, like the first year,
first two years, you know, we didn't really have a job.
And and, you know, eventually my dad did get a job at a restaurant.
You know, he would walk.
I don't know if you guys going to believe this or not,
but you would walk six miles during 2 a.m.
in the morning, you know, back and forth during snow.
You know, how you is so snowy. Right.
And, you know, he would walk back and forth, no car, nothing.
And that actually helped us survive.
All right.
So what is it that you see now?
Obviously, you moved up, you've gotten educated,
you've gotten your real estate license.
You're now, you know,
we're going to get into the whole, you know, your real estate career.
You hopped on, you got associated with Horatio
Alger, you know, where are you headed, do you think?
I love education?
And, you know, education is something that, you know, I love.
And and, you know, like I said, you know, growing up in the refugee
camp, I did not have lots of education. Right.
And so being here, coming here, looking at the opportunities,
I've had so many, you know, opportunities to chase.
And, you know, without education, I wouldn't be where I am today.
And entrepreneurship was for me.
You know, I shadowed pilots.
I wanted to become a doctor.
But, you know, with the Gores and the Y that I have, you know,
that didn't really fit me.
And so entrepreneurship, what do entrepreneurs do?
They solve problems.
So I wanted to solve problem and you know, and
I think what I'm headed with, with the business that I've started
and what I want to do in the future endeavors is, is I think it's unreal.
You know, I want to get into the development side,
learn, you know, you know, the multifamily side, obviously,
you know, building buildings and and, you know, own some units.
And I really feel like real estate is the way for me
to serve my community as well, because as a Horatio Alger scholar,
you know, we're meant to serve, right?
And we're meant to solve problems.
And as a philanthropist myself as well, I want to solve that problem.
I want to go back home and, you know, you know, and provide
so many resources that those other kids don't have.
And it's the real estate, and I can firmly believe that.
So let's talk about how you got into real estate and why you love it so much.
Yeah.
So, you know, when I was 14 years old, obviously I was in scouts
and so I found a couple of my mentors were in real estate and flip flipped
houses and stuff like that.
And, and I used to go buying sheetrock, you know, I was a hustler.
I passed out fliers.
But that's when I that's when I got introduced to real estate.
I was like, okay, I looked at the fire.
It said, I'll buy any house in any condition back of my mind.
I knew what this was.
And then, you know, I slowly had to wait, you know, everything
at that time, everything, everything, everything takes time.
And so I got with a couple of my friends, my school friends,
and that's why I got into wholesaling, you know,
and but before that, I burned off realtors here and there.
I found suppliers.
I went and worked with, you know,
with my mentors, you know, where they flipped houses.
And that's why I got introduced to real estate.
Honestly, you obviously had some mentors and coaches along the way.
So this is I'm I don't know the answer,
but did you pay for these coaches and mentors?
Unfortunately, at that time, I had not I did not have the financial
necessities to pay off.
So what I did was I offered them value, because in life
you got to offer value to someone, right?
Whatever a value that you offer,
that's the same value that they're going to give you.
And I early age, I learned that.
And if you can do that
and provide more value, then they provide value to you.
You went 100%.
And I promise you, and that's something that I learned quickly, you know,
and that's like I said, I read books.
Robert Sasaki which was your, you know, dear friend of yours, Ken.
And, you know, he really changed my mindset, you know,
and and I've read a lot of books like Thinking Grow Rich and,
you know, books like that thinking and really the mindset, right.
Is as human, you got to, you know, take control of this.
If you don't, then, you know, the motivation comes and goes.
But this has to be on point.
And your why and the vision that you have,
that that's when you really push forward.
And so that that's how it got started.
And so something that I like that you said is you have to offer them value, right?
So you hear people all the time that say, Hey,
I want kind of mentor me, you know, you know, or whoever.
I can't find a manner.
It's not the same as, Hey, I will do
whatever you need me to do to make this valuable for you.
I want to be mentored.
What do you need that I could provide?
Just because you don't have any money
doesn't mean that you can't find a good manner in progress.
You just have to do it differently.
Well, I think, first of all, that was a magical answer.
Ashish honestly was masterful.
It was scripted.
No, I don't even know what you were going to say.
But but the point I want to try to make,
I assumed that you scrapped it out and found one.
The point I wanted to make is that you do not need money to find a good mentor.
Is that would you agree with that?
Yeah. Yeah.
And the reason why I would agree with that is because, you know,
a lot of people, you know, they think that, you know, look out,
I have the money and I'll get whatever they're going to give me, which is true.
It can be true.
But there is an option option B, right.
Which is to give your time process with this idea where it's too hard to resist.
And I think that's one of the best thing,
you know, a 19 year old like myself can do right now and or a 15 year old
or a 14 year old or 11 year old who want to become an entrepreneur can do.
And yeah, I, I agree on that. Yeah.
You know, explain, explain like what these deals are because the audience
doesn't know like what real estate you have or anything like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So obviously it's called quick flipping or where you have some iffy, right?
And so basically what I'm doing is the whole word is whole sorry.
But what I'm doing is I am I'm having, you know, I'm talking to seller like,
hey, seller,
you know, you know, I see that your house is distressed.
You know, I'm the local investor that an adult, you know, I say my speech and then
not a squeeze but conversation sells scale
but what I do is, is I go there and I look at distressed
properties and I'm the middleman, just, you know, collecting a fee.
And don't get me wrong, I'm not those people where I collect this
this kind of fee because, you know, there's a lot of people
out there in this industry who want to like this fee and, you know,
take advantage of the seller like a big I don't do that, you know, I take what
I want need to take and and pretty much I flip the contract to an actual investor.
And so that's what I do.
And ever since, you know, I've started, it's been working out great.
Yeah, you're finding a stress real estate and bringing it to investors
and taking a fee.
All right, so you're not buying the property, you're the middleman.
So you get a fee for kind of finding the investor for this distressed property.
Yeah. Yeah. But this is step one.
This is really important.
This is why I brought it up, because this is finding
the deal is the hardest part.
Finding the money is actually don't you agree it's now it's actually not
that hard.
Now that you're in the game, do you see how easy the money is?
Yeah, yeah.
Like, you know, private lenders, you know, obviously, you know,
you can look a lot of lenders, obviously, you know, you've done your deal,
you know, in real estate.
I would have found, you know, I've been in real estate for, you know, a 3.5.
So, you know, it was going to be for, you know, this year.
So, you know, what I realized is that,
you know, it's about relationship game, right?
And you know, how loyal, loyal you are.
Right. And also, it's about a numbers game.
And so when you look out there, you know, you can see people,
they want to give you money.
They really do.
They want to give you money and, you know, an actual flipper.
Yeah.
You know, they're getting money from, you know,
you know, a person actually have money.
And so I've I've seen that can.
Yes, I've definitely seen that.
Yeah. And wholesaling is a great way to get started.
You know, you really you don't need any money to start.
You need a lot of hustle to start because you know how many people do you call?
Do you think they have
a distressed property before you find one that wants to actually sell it?
Oh, man.
We have we also have cold callers, you know, so, so yeah.
So, you know, cold callers call about
probably like 5000 a week.
5000.
Well, I'll said 4000, but yeah, but it's no, it's, it's,
it's a hard business, you know, but guess what?
That's the beauty of it, right?
And so and, and so.
Yeah, but guess what?
This, this, this business also led me
to having a financial success than I would have at a normal 9 to 5 job.
I certainly make more than they do, not to brag, but it has definitely
led me to make more money, you know, than a normal job.
So but guess what?
That's that's that's business.
That's that's that's that's that's where it's
that's where it gets exciting, you know.
So yeah, yeah.
When I love that because, you know, I think that people, you know, oh, I'm
going to wholesale, I'm going to call ten people and then when all ten say, no,
I'm done with this, you know, and so you have to call thousands.
But if you can hustle, it's a great first step into real estate.
We always hear, why wouldn't someone just list their house?
So like, why the people that you run into that actually want to sell their house?
Why won't they just listed on Zillow?
I were to go in, you know, as a realtor right now, like right to
to a person who has a distressed property. Right.
And and I would look I would like it, you know, you know,
if things are messed up and roofers, you know, needs a lot of work.
So basically it needs a lot of work.
And if you want to get to them as a first home buyer, wouldn't buy that, right?
What am I doing paying top dollar for a house like this?
Oh, no. So they want people like us.
And some people have that financial, you know, requirement that they have
to go through from their side that, you know, we can fulfill.
And it's a good thing because we're solving a problem. Right.
And we're providing value.