>>> WELCOME BACK.
>>> WELCOME BACK. WHEN FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE
WHEN FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN ANNOUNCED HE WAS RUNNING
BIDEN ANNOUNCED HE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN HIS WIFE DR.
FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN HIS WIFE DR. JILL BIDEN CELEBRATED BY GOING
JILL BIDEN CELEBRATED BY GOING BACK TO WORK.
BACK TO WORK. SHE HAS BEEN TEACHING, HITTING
SHE HAS BEEN TEACHING, HITTING THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. SHE HAS WRITTEN A MEMOIR AS
SHE HAS WRITTEN A MEMOIR AS WELL.
WELL.
ITS CALLED WHERE THE LIGHT ENTERS BUILDING A FAMILYHT
ENTERS BUILDING A FAMILY DISCOVERING MYSELF.
DISCOVERING MYSELF. GOOD TO SEE YOU.
GOOD TO SEE YOU. WE WILL GET TO THE BOOK IN A
WE WILL GET TO THE BOOK IN A MINUTE.
MINUTE.
OF COURSE, WE KNOW YOUR HUSBAND IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.USBAND
IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. >> YES.
>> YES.
>> YOU HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE.
WERE YOU GUNG-HO FOR THIS
DECISION OR DID YOU HAVE TO BE CONVINCED?R DID YOU HAVE TO BE
CONVINCED?
>> YEAH, I WAS GUNG-HO. I FELT THIS WAS JOES TIME.
I FELT THIS WAS JOES TIME. YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT THIS
YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT THIS COUNTRY FEELS SO DIVIDED, AND
COUNTRY FEELS SO DIVIDED, AND
JOE KNOWS HOW TO BRING THINGS, PEOPLE TOGETHER. BRING THINGS,
PEOPLE TOGETHER. HE IS A CONVENER.
HE IS A CONVENER. YOU KNOW, IM HOPING HE UNITES
YOU KNOW, IM HOPING HE UNITES THIS COUNTRY.
THIS COUNTRY. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR CELEBRATING TEACHERS BECAUSE, AS
CELEBRATING TEACHERS BECAUSE, AS A TEACHER MYSELF, YOU KNOW, I
A TEACHER MYSELF, YOU KNOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE
REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
DOING.
>> YOU ARE GOING TO LOVE THE
NEXT HALF HOUR.
STICK AROUND FOR IT. I WATCHED VERY CAREFULLY VICE
I WATCHED VERY CAREFULLY VICE PRESIDENT BIDENS CAMPAIGN VIDEO
PRESIDENT BIDENS CAMPAIGN VIDEO
AND THE ANNOUNCEMENT. HE SAID HE DIDNT THINK IN
HE SAID HE DIDNT THINK IN ESSENCE THAT THE COUNTRY COULD
ESSENCE THAT THE COUNTRY COULD
SURVIVE EIGHT YEARS OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.E EIGHT YEARS OF PRESIDENT
TRUMP.
HE SAID TRUMP WILL FOREVER AND
FUNDAMENTALLY ALTER THE
CHARACTER OF THIS NATION.
DO YOU SEE IT THAT WAY?
DO YOU THINK THAT PRESIDENT
TRUMP IS A THREAT TO THE VERY ESSENCE OF THIS COUNTRY? VERY
ESSENCE OF THIS COUNTRY? >> I DO.
>> I DO. I DO.
I DO.
AND I THINK WE SAW THAT IN
CHARLOTTESVILLE IN HOW THE
PRESIDENT HANDLED THAT.
I FEEL THAT ITS THEM AND US AND PEOPLE ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY ARE
PEOPLE ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE LOOKING
JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE LOOKING FOR NEW LEADERSHIP.
FOR NEW LEADERSHIP.
AND WE HEAR IT ALL THE TIME, AND THATS ONE OF THE REASONS JOE AND
THATS ONE OF THE REASONS JOE DECIDED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
DECIDED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
>> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, DO YOU THINK HE WOULD BE RUNNING IF
YOU THINK HE WOULD BE RUNNING IF IT WERE ANYONE OTHER THAN TRUMP
IT WERE ANYONE OTHER THAN TRUMP IN THE WHITE HOUSE RIGHT NOW?
IN THE WHITE HOUSE RIGHT NOW? >> I DONT KNOW.
>> I DONT KNOW.
I MEAN, THATS A HARD QUESTION
TO ANSWER.
>> I WONDERED IF IT WAS ABOUT TRUMP MORE THAN ANY OTHER ISSUE
TRUMP MORE THAN ANY OTHER ISSUE AT THIS POINT IN HIS CAREER.
AT THIS POINT IN HIS CAREER.
>> WELL, JOE, AS YOU KNOW, ALWAYS WANTED TO RUN FORW,
ALWAYS WANTED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT.
LAST TIME JUST WASNT OUR TIME.
AND SO THIS IS IT. THIS IS HIS TIME..
THIS IS HIS TIME. >> YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY BEEN A
>> YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY BEEN A POLITICAL SPOUSE FOR A REALLY
POLITICAL SPOUSE FOR A REALLY
LONG TIME.
>> FOREVER.
>> YEAH, FOREVER, TRULY.
AND YOU KNOW ABOUT POLITICS. YOU KNOW ITS A NASTY BUSINESS.
YOU KNOW ITS A NASTY BUSINESS. I HAVE TO SAY IT SEEMS TO BE
I HAVE TO SAY IT SEEMS TO BE
GETTING MORE PERSONAL, MORE NASTY.G MORE PERSONAL, MORE
NASTY.
ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THAT? ARE YOU WORRIED IN PARTICULAR
ARE YOU WORRIED IN PARTICULAR ABOUT ATTACKS ON YOUR FAMILY
ABOUT ATTACKS ON YOUR FAMILY
THAT SEEM INEVITABLE TO COME?
>> YOU KNOW, MY KIDS, MY GRANDKIDS ARE USED TO POLITICS.
GRANDKIDS ARE USED TO POLITICS. THEY HAVENT KNOWN ANYTHING BUT
THEY HAVENT KNOWN ANYTHING BUT POLITICS.
POLITICS.
AND WE SAT THEM DOWN AND SAID, YOU KNOW, SHOULD POP RUN?SAID,
YOU KNOW, SHOULD POP RUN? WHAT DO YOU THINK?
WHAT DO YOU THINK? WE GOT ALL THE KIDS IN THE ROOM
WE GOT ALL THE KIDS IN THE ROOM AND OUR GRANDKIDS AND SAID, WHAT
AND OUR GRANDKIDS AND SAID, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
DO YOU THINK?
BECAUSE IF YOU ARE AGAINST THIS,
WE WONT DO IT, BECAUSE ITS
GOING TO BE HARD ON YOU.
AND TO A CHILD, TO A GRANDCHILD, THEY SAID, POP HAS TO DO THIS.D,
THEY SAID, POP HAS TO DO THIS. POP HAS TO RUN.
POP HAS TO RUN.
>> WE HAVE HEARD SOME.
NICKNAMES THAT THE PRESIDENT IS
TRYING OUT FOR HIM. SLEEPY JOE, CREEPY JOE.
SLEEPY JOE, CREEPY JOE. SAYS HE HAS A LOW IQ.
SAYS HE HAS A LOW IQ. A WHAT
A WHAT
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT? >> ITS RIDICULOUS.OF THAT?
>> ITS RIDICULOUS. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE AMERICAN
YOU KNOW, I THINK THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE THINK THAT NAME-CALLING,
BULLYING, ITS JUST, YOU KNOW, ITS JUST A DIFFERENT TYPE OF,
ITS JUST A DIFFERENT TYPE OF LEADERSHIP.
LEADERSHIP.
LETS PUT IT THAT WAY.
>> DO YOU THINK OF THE PRESIDENT
AS A BULLY?
BECAUSE YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT BULLYING A FAIR BIT ON THEOUT
BULLYING A FAIR BIT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
CAMPAIGN TRAIL. I WONDER IF THATS WHO YOU HAVE
I WONDER IF THATS WHO YOU HAVE
IN MIND.
>> I HAVE SEEN BULLIES.
I AM A TEACHER.
I HAVESEEN THE EFFECTS OF BULLYI I SEE IT IN THE CLASSROOM ANDLYI
I SEE IT IN THE CLASSROOM AND WHY KIDS DROP OUT.
WHY KIDS DROP OUT.
I WRITE ABOUT IT IN MY BOOK WHEN MY SISTER WAS BULLIED AT THE BUS
MY SISTER WAS BULLIED AT THE BUS STOP.
STOP.
>> YOUR HUSBAND CALLED PRESIDENT
TRUMP A CLOWN RECENTLY. WE REMEMBER IN 2016 WHEN HE
WE REMEMBER IN 2016 WHEN HE SAID, HEY, IF THIS HIGH SCHOOL,
SAID, HEY, IF THIS HIGH SCHOOL,
WE WOULD GO BACK AND ID BEAT
THE HELL OUT OF HIM.
ITS THE UGLIEST FATTEST KID WHO IS THE BULLY.ST FATTEST KID WHO
IS THE BULLY. >> I SPOKE TO HIM ABOUT THAT.
>> I SPOKE TO HIM ABOUT THAT. >> WHAT DID YOU TELL HIM?
>> WHAT DID YOU TELL HIM? IS HE GOING TO GET DOWN IN THE
IS HE GOING TO GET DOWN IN THE
MUD?
>> NO.
>> WHAT DID YOU TELL HIM?
>> REMEMBER WHAT MICHELLE SAID. WHEN THEY GO LOW, WE GO HIGH.D.
WHEN THEY GO LOW, WE GO HIGH. >> OKAY.
>> OKAY. LETS TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE
LETS TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE
ISSUES THATS COME UP, WHICH IS WOMEN COMING FORWARD WHO HAVES
WOMEN COMING FORWARD WHO HAVE HAD INTERACTIONS WITH YOUR
HAD INTERACTIONS WITH YOUR HUSBAND OVER THE YEARS AND HAVE
HUSBAND OVER THE YEARS AND HAVE
SAID HE WAS INAPPROPRIATE, THAT HE CAME INTO THEIR PERSONALTHAT
HE CAME INTO THEIR PERSONAL SPACE IN A WAY THAT MADE THEM
SPACE IN A WAY THAT MADE THEM
FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE AND WAS
UNINVITED.
DO YOU THINK THATS A FAIR
CRITICISM?
IM SURE YOU HAVE READ THEIR
STORIES.
>> I HAVE.
AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
THE TIMES HAVE CHANGED.
THERE USED TO BE A TIME WHEN IT
WAS ACCEPTABLE FOR PEOPLE TO, I DONT KNOW, CONNECT WITH ONEO, I
DONT KNOW, CONNECT WITH ONE ANOTHER WITH A TOUCH ON THE ARM.
ANOTHER WITH A TOUCH ON THE ARM.
BUT NOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED, YOU KNOW.OW THINGS HAVE CHANGED, YOU
KNOW.
THE "ME TOO" MOVEMENT HAS
CHANGED ALL OF THAT.
JOE HEARD WHAT SHE SAID.
I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY COURAGEOUS
THAT SHE CAME OUT, SPOKE OUT.
LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THAT HAS
HAPPENED TO ME.
IT WAS YEARS AGO.
I DIDNT SPEAK OUT.
I DIDNT HAVE THE COURAGE.
BUT TODAY I FEEL THAT I WOULD
HAVE THE COURAGE TO, YOU KNOW, PUSH BACK.OURAGE TO, YOU KNOW,
PUSH BACK. >> IN THE SAME VAIN, HEPRESIDED
>> IN THE SAME VAIN, HEPRESIDED
OVER THE ANITA HILL HEARING.
HE A PHONE CALL WITH HER WHERE HE EXPRESSED ACKNOWLEDGMENTERE
HE EXPRESSED ACKNOWLEDGMENT ABOUT THE FAILINGS IN THAT
ABOUT THE FAILINGS IN THAT HEARING.
HEARING.
SHE TOLD "THE NEW YORK TIMES"
SHE WASNT SATISFIED.
SHE SAID ITS NOT ENOUGH FOR HIM
TO SAY IM SORRY FOR WHAT
HAPPENED TO YOU.
IS SHE SAYING THAT, DOES THAT
DEMONSTRATE IN AND OF ITSELF HE
NEEDS TO GO FURTHER IN HIS
APOLOGY OR HIS STATEMENTS TO
HER?
>> THEY HAD THE PHONE CALL.
HE WAS REALLY GRATEFUL THAT SHE
TOOK HIS CALL.
HE APOLOGIZED TO HER. AND THE ONE GOOD THING THAT HAS
AND THE ONE GOOD THING THAT HAS COME OUT OF THIS IS THAT HE MADE
COME OUT OF THIS IS THAT HE MADE
SURE THAT THERE WERE NOW WOMEN SENATORS ON THAT COMMITTEE.MEN
SENATORS ON THAT COMMITTEE. HE HAS WRITTEN THE VIOLENCE
HE HAS WRITTEN THE VIOLENCE
AGAINST WOMEN ACT. SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE GOOD
SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE GOOD THAT CAME OUT OF THAT.
THAT CAME OUT OF THAT.
>> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BOOK.WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE
BOOK.
IM JUST GOING TO BE HONEST.
THERE ARE PARTS THAT I READ THAT
I READ THROUGH TEARS AND WITH A
LUMP IN MY THROAT BECAUSE YOU
HAVE SUFFERED SUCH A TREMENDOUS LOSS AND YOU ARE VERY HONESTOUS
LOSS AND YOU ARE VERY HONEST ABOUT YOUR GRIEF.
ABOUT YOUR GRIEF. I MEAN, YOU SAY AT ONE POINT IM
I MEAN, YOU SAY AT ONE POINT IM
NOT THE SAME.
IM NOT THE SAME PERSON.
>> NO.
>> HOW ARE YOU FINDING THE
STRENGTH NOT ONLY TO WRITE ABOUT
IT, BUT TO COME INTO THE PUBLIC AND PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE FOR A
AND PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE FOR A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN WHEN THE
PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN WHEN THE WAY I READ THIS BOOK, IT IS
WAY I READ THIS BOOK, IT IS STILL SO VERY EVER PRESENT?
STILL SO VERY EVER PRESENT? >> WELL, I THINK YOUR TEARS WERE
>> WELL, I THINK YOUR TEARS WERE
BECAUSE YOURE A MOTHER AND YOU
KNOW HOW MUCH YOU LOVE YOUR
CHILDREN AND YOU PROBABLY JUST
COULDNT GO THERE IN YOUR HEAD, YOU KNOW.O THERE IN YOUR HEAD,
YOU KNOW.
YOU JUST CANT GET INTO THAT SPACE.ST CANT GET INTO THAT
SPACE.
BUT IT DID HAPPEN TO ME.
BUT WERE LIKE SO MANY OTHER
AMERICAN FAMILIES WHO HAVE
SUFFERED LOSS OR HAVE SUFFERED
ILLNESS.
YOU KNOW, SO WERE LIKE SO MANY AMERICAN FAMILIES.LIKE SO MANY
AMERICAN FAMILIES. >> YOU WROTE SO MOVINGLY ABOUT
>> YOU WROTE SO MOVINGLY ABOUT
IT.
I WAS ALSO STRUCK ABOUT YOU WRITING ABOUT YOUR FAITH, HOW
WRITING ABOUT YOUR FAITH, HOW IMPORTANT IT IS IN YOUR LIFE.
IMPORTANT IT IS IN YOUR LIFE.
YOU CHOICE YOUR FAITH, WONT
FOISTED UPON YOU.
YOU WRITE ONE OF YOUR LAST
PRAYERS WAS FOR BEAU. >> IT WAS.S FOR BEAU.
>> IT WAS.
>> IT WAS A PRAYER THAT WENT
UNANSWERED.
ITS CERTAINLY HOW IT FEELS.
HOW ARE YOU GRAPPLING WITH THAT,
AND ARE YOU HOPEFULLY YOU WILL
FIND YOUR FAITH AGAIN?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, IT WAS FUNNY. CRAIG JUST TOLD ME THAT HIS MOM.
CRAIG JUST TOLD ME THAT HIS MOM WENT TO THE CHURCH THAT JOE AND
WENT TO THE CHURCH THAT JOE AND
I WENT TO THIS PAST SUNDAY IN SOUTH CAROLINA, AND I HAVE BEEN
SOUTH CAROLINA, AND I HAVE BEEN GRAPPLING WITH FAITH.
GRAPPLING WITH FAITH. AND THE WOMAN SITTING NEXT TO
AND THE WOMAN SITTING NEXT TO
ME, IM NOT GOING TO IDENTIFY
HER, BUT SHE REACHED OVER AND SHE SAID, I WANT TO BE YOURND
SHE SAID, I WANT TO BE YOUR PRAYER PARTNER.
PRAYER PARTNER.
AND I THOUGHT, PRAYER PARTNER?
WHATS A PRAYER PARTNER? AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS SO KIND.
AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS SO KIND. AND AS I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, I
AND AS I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, I
THOUGHT MAYBE THIS IS GOD SAYING
TO ME, JILL, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE HAD -- ITS BEEN ALMOST FOURHAVE
HAD -- ITS BEEN ALMOST FOUR YEARS, AND COME BACK.
YEARS, AND COME BACK.
WE ARE REACHING OUT.
COME BACK.
SO MAYBE ITS TIME TO COME BACK. >> WOW.E ITS TIME TO COME BACK.
>> WOW. YOU HAVE DONE AN AMAZING THING
YOU HAVE DONE AN AMAZING THING BY WRITING ABOUT THIS AND
BY WRITING ABOUT THIS AND
SHARING YOUR GRIEF AND CONNECTING WITH PEOPLE ON THAT
CONNECTING WITH PEOPLE ON THAT LEVEL.
LEVEL.
I THINK IT WILL MEAN A LOT TO
THEM.
AS YOU SAID, WE ARE CELEBRATING
TEACHERS TODAY.
>> YES.
>> YOU ARE A TEACHER.
IF YOU WERE GOING TO BE FIRST
LADY, WOULD YOU CONTINUE
TEACHING?
>> I WOULD LOVE TO.
I DONT KNOW WHETHER SECURITY,
YOU KNOW, I COULD DO THAT.
BUT MAYBE I COULD SNEAK IN AND,
YOU KNOW, DO A CLASS NOW AND
THEN.
>> MAYBE YOU COULD RED-PEN SOME
SPEECHES IF IT GETS TO THAT POINT.ES IF IT GETS TO THAT
POINT.
>> MY STUDENTS ARE TAKING THEIR
FINAL EXAMS TODAY.
>> OH?
>> I HAVE TO POST GRADES BY THURSDAY. TO POST GRADES BY
THURSDAY.
>> MY GOSH, YOU ARE ON DEADLINE, TOO.Y GOSH, YOU ARE ON DEADLINE,