Rachel: She's a great belter
Gwen: yeah
look at how much harder she's trying
Rachel: You can though who hurts a little just cuz it's
concerning but she- the kpop one has really great... belt
Gwen: Yeah, we're zoning in on the opera girl because we just like relate
Umu: The two vocalists that we're about to watch also on Immortal Songs Two
Luna and Jinyoung. They are sisters coming from a family with
A heavy musical background.
Rachel: Yes. Gwen: Oh Cool
Umu: Luna is the main vocalist to f(x)
Gwen: MMMMMMM
Umu: So she's a kpop singer and Jinyoung is actually a classically trained vocal major
Rachel: I'm so exicted Umu: And their older brother is a composer.
He was in charge of arranging this song for their performance
also
Her parents are classical musicians and this song is dedicated to their father
Which you will see in the audience once in a while during the video. This episode is for the Lunar New Year
Which is one of the most significant traditional holidays in Korea
So the theme of this episode was family instead of covering the work of a legendary singer
so Luna the
Kpop singer said about their performance that this song is for our father who worked hard to raise us. Our parents worked really hard
So I wanted to succeed and give back to them as soon as possible
We will work extra hard since this is our first duet together
Jonathan: awww
Gwen: Speaking of the duet together. I'm a little hesitant
about kpop pop singer and classical vocalist in a duet
We shall see. Rachel: Unless she like tones it down and does
Gwen: really both.(R: right) They both really have to just mmm
Gwen: Alright, let's see three two one
Jonathan: Melon
Jeremy: When you wish upon a star?
Hugo: That's so great
Jeremy: This is gonna be cute
Hugo: If they weren't sisters it wouldn't be cute both: but they're sisters so it's super cute
Jeremy: This is so magical I was just at Disney too - oh my goodness
Gwen: That's the k-pop one, right?
Umu: Kpop's on the left, classical on the right
Gwen: Who starts
both: kpop Gwen: yup
Hugo: I really like her voice though
Jeremy: It's cute
Hugo: It's like not too heavy Jeremy: yeah
Hugo: without making it too breathy at the same time
Rachel: She's very musical so I feel like this could work
Gwen: You can tell because it's a darker sound
Rachel: yeah
Rachel: But she's definitely not singing like she would
Gwen: definitely like yeah. Rachel: yeah
Rachel: Is that dad?
Gwen: Mom and dad
Jonathan: Her breath is tighter, ironically
James: She crying
Gwen: Yeah, I think she's doing more work to match kpop
Rachel: oh yeah, yes,
Gwen: but you can still tell just because of
how dark her tone is, part of that is also probably because she's-
Rachel: yeah and it's a lot fuller
Jonathan: Her voice is just so easy to listen to
Rachel: and like even you can tell like the projection is a little more amplified
Gwen: And she's holding the mic a little farther away
Rachel: Yep
Hugo: I knew it was gonna happen I was waiting for it.
Jeremy: Are they gonna like- rip off their dresses gonna be like starts dancing or something
Hugo: See this is how you set up an expectation for an epic song.
Jeremy: Yeah not just start from the beginning
Rachel: And it's interesting because she probably sings much higher in real life but
she's on the bottom harmony because it's like fuller
kinda holds it down
Gwen: Yeah, and also cuz she cant belt.
Rachel: Right, I would've done the same thing
Rachel: Or, doesnt choose to belt. Gwen: Well I don't actually-
Gwen: She probably doesn't belt
James: It's interesting, she's classically trained but (J: Yeah she's kinda belting) she straight tones
Jonathan: I think her vibrato is a little more caught than hers too. Like, the kpop one's just a lot more.. even
and she moves right through her breaks very easily
Rachel: It's still probably like not as comfortable for her
Like just from personal experience and singing like this
Gwen: a little nerve wracking
JeremyL Oh! (H: oh shit) There she goes
Hugo: that suspension though, Jeremy: yeah
Jeremy: Half time! Hugo: aw that was mm
Rachel: The kpop (one) is very good at that whistle tone
Not quite but almost
Gwen: It's like a female falsetto
Yeah
Rachel: She's a great belter
Gwen: Look at how much harder she's trying
Rachel: You can tell it hurts a little
Just cuz it's concerning but she's a- the kpop one has a really great belt
Gwen: Yeah, we're zoning in on the opera girl because we just like relate
Yeah
Jonathan: She's like- You got nothin' on me lady
James: This is so emotional, this is so nice
Rachel: Aw, she's crying
Gwen: Of course she's crying
Rachel: These songs always make the weirdest like 360s
Rachel: I'm not convinced tuning right away. Gwen: But yeah, they got it
Her natural vibrato's like gorgeous
Gwen: Man, I wanna hear that girl sing an actual opera.
Rachel: Yeah
James: Oh it's so nice, Jonathan
Umu: Get on the feels train already!
Jonathan: I'm a heartless
no I thought it was really good (James: Aw she cried!)
Umu: So you you were feeling things-
James: How did you not get emotional over that?
You heartless heartless PERSON Jonathan: JEEZOKAY
Jonathan: Maybe I do get emotional, I just don't communicate or express it in the way that you do
like I am crying inside you can see James: Oh my god
James: I'm gonna leave my dad like a five minute voicemail.
Jonathan: I will not be calling my dad. James: Oh my god
Jonathan: It was sweet though
Umu: Yeah, so you're saying that the classically trained person you were surprised that she could straight tone
James: I was surprised that she wasn't using vibrato
that she was choosing to use straight tone
Usually we're told you know, otherwise to use vibrato and to not straight tone
Umu: right
Jonathan: I thought she tried to use vibrato
But her breath was like way more tight than the other girl's
Ironically, so I don't really know. They're both really good singers to be honest
Umu: Maybe the classically trained was trying to fit into the style of the pop singer
Jonathan: Yeah
They were both belting to like we're not classically trained singers usually don't
Aren't trained to to belt so she did really well for handling that style
she did like a lot of mixing and things but
The other girls obviously did the style better than her right was just to be unlike expected because that's what she does, right
Pop kind of
Umu: exactly
Umu: right So you're talking about how
Classical vocalist can't belt. So can you describe the difference between
Pop and classical technique
Gwen: it has to do with musculature. Okay. It's very
that's why there's such a sharp distinction because in order to be a successful belter you have to they're all
Teeny tiny muscles all in here. You have to build up certain ones to like have that
Fortification, but then in order to be more of a classical vocalist you like there has to be able to complete like freeness here
(R: yeah) and so it's really difficult to do both because
It's hard to have muscles that are really strong and also incredibly flexible
There are people that can it's just not very common.
Rachel: Yeah, and then the whole the whole balance of what classical singing mostly is
It's finding that balance of how to bring your cords together
with a correct ratio
Million different things to take on Gwen: There's this whole concept of chiaro e scuro
Which Italian yeah light and dark
rachel: and not that belting is screaming
But when you scream your vocal chords are like slam together and a belt is more of that like more
of a fast connection than... and that's rougher in life
Rachel: On your vocal cords. This person Like I sing a lot of acapella stuff as well. I like yeah
Gwen: Yeah
you probably know a lot about like how it feels
Rachel: and it feels so different and it's just like
There's you can assume when you sing properly it's hard (G: Classiclly properly)
classically, you feel a whole lot of nothing like it almost feels like you're not singing
Gwen: Yeah, paying a ton of money a year just to be told- tell me to stop (R:feeling) trying basically.
Rachel: It's all kind of here and the sound kind of comes through your face
and
The belt range is a lot more chest like way less head voice and a lot more chest voice and you feel the connection
here more and so that just like
Sensation of like you can kind of feel the work is here and not in the rest of your body
So I like I wouldn't sing that way for a extended period of time
Gwen: Yeah Right, like as someone who was never taught how to taught
You know any ways to do it without ruining your voice it would just be bad
For us to try that Rachel: and there are uh
we've trained our voices to kind of be top-heavy and bring the top down and
Belting is bringing the chest up, bringing the bottom up
Gwen: That's why you get- that's why you get that kind of like strong feeling because it is it's very grounded
versus like opera is more like you go for more like
Agility and like soar into the sound and so it's a lot of like, I mean, we're making them sound completely opposite
there are obviously a lot of similarities but
No, it was really interesting because that was what the I mean, that was a very k-pop sounding song
it sounded like pop singers and the fact that one of those people was like a classically trained voice major is really interesting because
If they like... she pretty successfully did that style. (R:Yeah). it wasn't like
Like I mean, her job was support and was lower harmonies
So she wasn't the one that was like everyone was like oh my god. She's so good
But she was like definitely holding her own and it was like very well blended.
(Gwen: I thought) Rachel: Yeah, and especially like confidence-wise
It's really hard when you're out of your element to like
Like (G: sell it) tuning wise even (G: Oh god yeah) to like feel confident in the way she was singing it and like
she didn't seem to have any problems. Yeah
I'm just, very impressed. That that was successful.
Umu: Okay first do you vote for them to move on? Hugo: Oh, yeah. Jeremy: Yes. Yes, okay
Umu: why?
Jeremy: I think they sounded really good together, like their voices just meshed well and
The song suited them so well so props to them for choosing a song and you said the brother arranged it, right?
Hugo: Yeah, Jeremy: that was
awesome and I enjoyed it a lot
Hugo: Yeah, they both had good voice like their timbre is good there's space
you know It was interesting this song more than any other song particularly because
the one was a classical singer I was thinking
It's hard to understand the different spaces that they have to make for certain words in Korean
That we don't make in English language
So how do you like make the space to have healthy singing when you have when you literally have different sounds?
That sounds that we don't ever make in our language particularly nasalization kind of like in French
There are a few in there where she was singing on. I mean it was it was good
It was really good
But they there was never a point where I doubted whether they pitch like whenever they found there whenever the harmony was always great
Yes, strong is good. There's one part where they get off with drums, but they got put on like that.
Umu: Okay!
Would do you vote for them to continue on to the next level? Jeremy: Yeah. James: Yes. Jy: Wait
Are they in the same like would they be competing against the other boygroup?
Umu: No, this is a totally different episode. Jeremy: Mm
Umu: but it's the same show.
But theoretically if they were on the same show[episode]
James: Say if you did have to compete who would you pick
Jeremy: I would pick the girls over them. Just cause. (James: I would as well)
I don't know. I'm just rooting for the females today like
they were just- James: They were just stronger! Jeremy: They're stronger Yeah
Yeah, they're stronger as singers in general like I feel the guys are too focused on hitting
that tenor ping-y thing that like is really
It's done a lot there
But the girls are just so much more even and have it like so much more
presence and depth and can communicate better
fix it guys
Umu: Right. So would you vote for them to go into their next? Both: Yeah.
Umu: Okay. Well, they didn't win this episode Rachel: noOOOO
Rachel: it's okay, Gwen: wait did the last group win their episode?
Umu: Yes. Gwen: Oh okay
Gwen: Well I think that maybe because we were geeking out
like right like we voted for them because we loved their vocal technique
both: hehehehehe Gwen: Right
Gwen: Our opinions may be a little biased Rachel: Yeah
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