>>> WE ARE BACK WITH JOY REID,
HOST OF MSNBC.
AND COMING UP NEXT HOUR, SHE
WILL SIT DOWN WITH NICOLE HANNAH
JONES, SHE TALKS TO THE BIGGEST
BRAVES THAT WE CAN IMAGINE.
IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE.
IT IS GOING TO BE THE
CONVERSATION THAT WELL BE
HAVING.
I WANT TO YOU TO UNDERSTAND HOW
REAL THIS IS ABOUT TO BE.
>> PRETTY MUCH.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU SOMEONE WHO
HAS TAUGHT AT HOWARD UNIVERSITY
AND WHO KNOWS HOW THOSE STUDENTS
ARE LIKE, TALK ABOUT THE
SIGNIFICANCE OF NICOLE HANNA
JONES GOING OVER TO THE
UNIVERSITY.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO THE
INSTITUTION AND THE STUDENTS?
>> SHE TALKS ABOUT IT IN HER
STATEMENT WHICH EVERYONE SHOULD
READ.
WE ALL COME UP, AND YOU TEACH AT
MSNBC, YOU KNOW THIS, TOO. BEING ACHIEVING THE HIGHEST IS
BEING ACHIEVING THE HIGHEST IS
GO TO YALE AND STANFORD.
THE PEOPLE LIKE THEDR. KING, IT
ABCU THAT PRODUCED THE MINDS
THAT BROKE SEGREGATION.
I THINK WE NEED TO RETRAIN OUR
THINKING ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO
BE ANY ELITE SCHOOLS.
I LOVE THE FEEDBACK TWOACT THAT
MOST ELITE MINDS IN AMERICA ARE
GOING TO BE AT HOWARD UNIVERSITY
TOGETHER MEANS THAT, THAT SCHOOL
IS NOW $15 MILLION.
>> YES.
>> AND MORE COMING -- TO BE ABLE
TO EDUCATE.
I TAUGHT SOME OF THE BRIGHTEST
AND INTERESTING AND THEY MOST
CHALLENGING STUDENTS I EVER
DEALT WITH.
THESE YOUNG PEOPLE DESERVE TO
HAVE THE ABSOLUTELY BEST IN
TERMS OF INSTRUCTORS AND THEYRE
ABOUT TO GET IT.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU.
I AM A UNT CHAPEL HILL ALUM.
I RECENTLY GOT MY DOCTOR, I ALSO
TALK ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS WHEN IT
COMES TO AS YOU MENTIONED, CLIPS
WITH PWI, MY ALMA MATER, THEYRE
TAKING ON THIS.
THEY JUST LOST NICOLE HANNA
JONES, DO YOU THINK THIS IS A
LESSON THAT PREDOMINANTLY WHITE
COLLEGES RECOGNIZE THAT YOU
CANT ENGAGE IN THESE HOSTILITY
WITHOUT TAKING A HIT IN YOUR
PUBLIC RELATIONS OR DO YOU THINK
IT IS GOING TO OSTRICIZE IT?
>> WELL, I THINK THEY MY THINK
IT IS A VICTORY UNTIL ELITE HIGH
SCHOOL SENIORS START
RETHINKING -- IF I AM COMING UP
AND I HAVE AN INTEREST IN
JOURNALISM OR HISTORY OR
LEARNING ABOUT THIS COUNTRY AND
THEN LEARNING TO SPEAK ABOUT IT
AND BECOMING A PUBLIC
INTELLECTUAL, I AM NOW PUTTING
HOWARD MUCH HIGHER ON ANY LIST
THAN UNC, THEYRE GOING TO START
TO LOSE RECRUITS.
ALL THEIR OTHER PROGRAMS GET
WEAKER AND FACULTY BESIDES
NICOLE HANNA JONES -- YOU KNOW
WHAT I DONT WANT TO TEACH AT
THIS SCHOOL.
THEYRE TRYING TO HUMILIATE HERE
AND MAKING THIS BRILLIANT WOMAN,
MAKE HER HUMILIATED, YOU CAN
ONLY TEACH WITH NO ACADEMIC
FREEDOM OR SAFETY IN TERMS OF
YOUR JOB SECURITY.
YOU MAY SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALK
AWAY.
I HOPE THATS WHAT HAPPENS.
I FEEL BAD FOR THE STUDENTS AND
A LOT OF STUDENTS ARE GOING TO
MISS OUT.
THIS IS A LESSON THE UNIVERSITY
HAS TO LEARN.
I HOPE THEYLL LOSE A LOT OF
MONEY, TOO.
>> I DONT THINK THEYLL LEARN
THEIR LESSON UNTIL A NUMBER ONE
BASKETBALL ELITE COMES OUT --
>> THESE SCHOOLS ONLY CARE ABOUT
MONEY.
THE RIGHT IS IN THIS WAR TO
SUPPRESS INFORMATION.
>> RIGHT.
>> THEYRE SO TERRIFIED THAT
AMERICANS CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH
ABOUT THE FOUPDNDERS.
NO KIDDING.
THESE PEOPLE WERE DOING FINE
FROM 16, 19 ON UNTIL THE 18th
CENTURY, WHAT CHANGED?
WELL, THEY MADE A LOT OF MONEY.
THEY WERE ENJOYING THE FRUITS OF
THEIR LABOR AND DIDNT WANT TO
SHARE IT WITH THE KING.
THIS IS NOT GOUNGING TO CRUSH TO
MANY AMERICANS THAT DID NOT HAVE
ENOUGH SECURITY TO UNDERSTAND
THAT PEOPLE CAN BE A VILLAINNESS
AND DO THINGS THAT ARE GREAT.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS NOT
MATURE ENOUGH TO HOLD THOSE TWO
IDEAS AHEAD SO THEY ARE
PANICKING.
BLACK PEOPLE, WE ARE NOT
INTERESTED IN THE BS ANY LONGER.
>> RIGHT.
>> WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE YOUR
SING-SONGING STORYBOOK HISTORY.
WE WANT THE TRUTHS.
A LOT OF YOUNG FOENGSLKS ARE SAY
GIVE US THE TRUTH, STOP TREATING
US AS IF WE ARE NOT ENOUGH TO
HANDLE IT.
>> I READ NICOLE HANNA JONES
JONES -- SHE SAID MY COMMIT TO
YOU HAVE NOT WAIVERED.
I WILL CONTINUE TO DO AS I HAVE
IN THE PAST AS AN ALUM OF THE
SCHOOL AND NOT THE FACULTY, I
HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER HOWARD OR
ANOTHER HBCU IF YOU EVER SEEK A
NEW EDUCATIONAL HOME.
WHATEVER YOU DO, I KNOW YOU WILL
CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR JUSTICE.
THATS HER MOMENT BY SAYING IF YOU ARE TIEING PEOPLE UP ALL
YOU ARE TIEING PEOPLE UP ALL
PEOPLE IN YOUR VIDEO, COME TO AN
AB
HBCU.
>> IF SHE STARTS TO GET FACULTY
TO START COMING TO HOWARD, LETS
BE CLEAR, HOWARD UNIVERSITY JUST
PULLED A COUP, THIS IS JANUARY
6th, THAT ONE FAILED, THIS ONE
SUCCEEDED.
HOWARD UNIVERSITY RIGHT NOW,
THEY CAN ATRACK TOP ACADEMIC
TALENT INSS IN TERMS OF STUDENTS
FACULTY.
IF PEOPLE START SAYING YOU KNOW
WHERE I WANT TO BE IS WHERE
NICOLE HANNA JONES AND COATES
ARE, OTHER HBCU ARE GOING TO
START TO COMPETE.
YOU CREATED A MARKETPLACE AT
HBCUs THAT HAVE NOT BEEN THIS
HOT SINCE THE 1950s.
I AM EXCITED TO SEE WHETHER OR
NOT THAT MARK PLACE PRODUCES
INCREDIBLE FINANCIAL AND ACADEMIC RESULTS FOR HOWARD AND