welcome to it's a crime i'm linda and today we're going to be diving into
more surveillance in the oren and orson west case another youtuber av watchman united we stand
has given permission to use this video that he recorded from the neighbor's house so
thank you to av watchman i will put his link in the description below now i'll be showing
clips from that video and we're gonna expand on what's going on but before i get into it
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so let's set the scene it's december 21st 2020 late afternoon it was around 56 degrees that day
in cal city around the five o'clock mark trazell describes it as cold both jaclyn and triselle west
both claim that their two little boys oren and orson have vanished from the backyard that day
as they were playing with chalk their four other children were at grandma's house on
vacation according to trezel and also according to trezel jaclyn was in the house wrapping christmas
presents while triselle was tossing wood and also according to gizelle and jacqueline that's when
everything played out between 4 30 and 5 pm tell us what happened the night the kids went missing
oh good from our yard okay
it was cold i was gonna make a fire it's a lot of wood in this area right here next to our house now
here's where triselle is claiming there's a lot of wood in this area right here next to our house
we've seen in various video footage how much wood is in this area i'm questioning if he's ever made
a fire in his life because from what i see and what i saw it's kindling and that's
it so how long is that going to keep you warm from the cold i mean really now here's a look
inside of their house this was taken from the house listing as you can see there is
a fireplace in the living room the fireplace faces the front of the home on the west side
now let's show you what actually happened on the surveillance footage at 4 12 p.m trezel walks out
of his house and into the backyard he walks over to the gate and you can see him bending over he
also stands there for a few moments he goes back and forth from one side of the gate to the other
but staying close i open up the back gate i'm throwing wood bringing it inside the house
now at this point i'd like to point out that it's impossible with where he's situated that orin and
orson left the yard through the gate i'm sure you would agree with that since he's right there
right so far now you can see triselle from 4 12 p.m the time he came out of the house
until 4 18 doing the same motions going back and forth on either side of the gate and then bending
over doing something now at 4 18 the video doesn't show him going back into the house yet but it
shows him leaving the gate and it was a little bit difficult because av watchman was moving his phone
so i don't have a clear clear point of reference on this but i do wonder if this is where triselle
gives space so the kids have the opportunity to go missing in their story in my opinion notable there
isn't one ounce of footage that shows any other person entering the property entering through that
gate entering through that backyard also notable no one is leaving the front yard now at 4 19 p.m
it shows in the video that he is in the yard and in seven whole minutes if the children are playing
outside playing with chalk they would create quite a little masterpiece though wouldn't they
right a three and four-year-old lots of scribbles having fun anyone out there who has kids knows how
much can happen when given a crayon a marker or chalk in a short amount of time so i'd love to
see what the artwork actually looked like oh wait what artwork i really really can't wait
for the officers body cam on this one now at 4 21 pm this is when i believe triselle
goes back in the house because it's starting to get dark and the lights turn on in the backyard
my wife's inside she was actually wrapping gifts so we thought it was a good idea that
they got our youngest to go outside and play with chalk on the back patio do not let them go
on the dirt in the backyard and keep them close i was playing with chalk and i came in the house i
saw them there one house i came back out i didn't see him now i immediately went back in asked my
wife did you see the boys she said no they should be outside playing with chalk i said well i didn't
see them so i came back outside and i started searching my backyard i searched the whole thing
at no time in the surveillance did triselle search the whole thing or even part of the thing
at all and let's take a look at that yard again this yard is quite big it does not show him going
around this other building the shed or garage whatever it is doesn't show him going on the west
side of the house between the house and the fence nothing and that would be the areas to look if you
were trying to look for you know a three and four year old who's no longer in the yard perhaps they
went on the side of the house where are they and if you're searching the whole thing then search
the whole thing but nope not trezel now i'd also like to point this out he was only outside in the
backyard for seven minutes at this point his wife is allegedly wrapping presents and he only had
seven minutes of wood to do at this point why wouldn't he just finish it and then his wife
do the wrapping if it's just a quick gather some kindle but no need to ask that question
because this story is a bunch of you know what in my opinion now speaking of searching the
whole backyard the fbi made some digs in that backyard here's a picture what's really odd
to me are the types of holes that were dug up in the yard by the fbi in the surveillance he
stayed over near the gate notable is where the holes were actually dug so now i'm very curious
as to what made them dig at that location and curious as to the types of holes they dug
i realized that i left the gate open and i panicked came inside the house searched
the house me and my wife so at this point triselle was outside from 412 to 4 21 which is nine minutes
then he goes inside allegedly to search for another eight minutes with his wife at 4 29 pm the
light goes on in the front of the house and then it goes off here's where it gets weird at 4 30 pm
in the interview triselle says that this is where things started and played out at what time
did you guys notice your kids went messing and at what time were they reported missing to the police
it's about i believe i think it was about 4 30 going on fire it was getting dark like
i said five five ish that's about it that's when everything played out and
coincidentally or not coincidentally is the time the lights start flickering on
and off for 20 seconds the lights turn on then off turn on then off and then turn on
and then turn off so for a total of three times no kids left the house bro no kids left to that back
the lights turn on in the back now now it's off again on
off on what the heck and what's the story with him just standing there
off now they're just off then two minutes later the light goes on in the front
that's quite the search right now tresell then says he panicked when the kids were gone but then
he goes into his van at 4 33 pm he doesn't search the front of the house as i mentioned in previous
videos notable he goes in the passenger side climbs into the driver's seat and then drives off
he searches for six whole minutes and then comes back at 4 39 pm and calls the cops he hangs out in
the front yard for 13 minutes and i'll reiterate triselle's words and that's how everything played
out and jacqueline as she says is going through it that's about it that's when everything played out
we're going through it notable as well zero searching by jaclyn how lazy can you be to carry
out this plan not even an effort or a fake attempt to search it's ridiculous if these two are capable
of this then i ask what have they done to these other children in their lifetime now i'd also
like to know if they had car seats in that van or were they too lazy to carry that out as well
also i want to point out tresell spent more time gathering kindling than he did looking for his
children and that's it that's about it so now i have some more questions and i'm sure you guys do
too first where are the boys and was the visit to grandma pre-planned or was it last
minute what were the flickering of the lights all about from his house going on and off and why this
day why monday which in a lot of cases scary things happen on monday in true crime for some
reason so why did they choose december 21st to be the day that they report the kids missing
did they actually go missing earlier that day or was it on saturday that the kids went missing the
day they took four children to go to bakersfield to see grandma or is it that the children never
even lived at that house and i do wonder if it even appeared that oren and orson lived in that
home did they have laundry sitting in the basket was their clothing because a three and four year
old can go through a lot in a day what did their bedrooms look like so many questions and the huge
question is besides where are the boys is what are they lying about and why stay tuned for more
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see you soon and then when did you guys call the police to report that missing
after we searched yeah a little bit around here we it was dark so we definitely
we got worried once that had been panned out i got in the van i looked down the street both
directions it was getting dark getting cold and i got in the van and i hit a bunch of corners
i went down this street i turned my light on i searched i searched i called the names i talked to
a gentleman on the street on the other side over there he didn't see anyone so then i came home
and i told my wife we need to call the cops it's getting dark and i need help we gotta get going