>> Emily: THIS IS
"OUTNUMBERED."
HELLO, AND EMILY COMPAGNO HERE
IS MY COASTS, KAYLEIGH McENANY
AND HARRIS FAULKNER.
ALSO JOINING US TODAY,
MORGAN ORTAGUS AND JIMMY FAILLA.
BREAKING NEEDED ELEMENTS AND
THEY DEADLY UVALDE SCHOOL
SHOOTING.
THE SAFETY DIRECTOR TESTIFYING
SHORT TIME AGO THAT
LAW ENFORCEMENT HAD ENOUGH
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ON THE
SCENE TO HAVE STOPPED THE GUNMAN
3 MINUTES AFTER HE ENTERED THE
BUILDING, AND CALLING THE
LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE "AN
ABJECT FAILURE."
THE SENDING YOU DETAILS, AS WE
GET THE FIRST CHILLING IMAGES
FROM INSIDE THE SCHOOL THAT DAY.
THE SURVEILLANCE PHOTO YOU’RE
LOOKING AT SHOWS COPS WITH
RIFLES AND BALLISTIC SHIELDS IN
THE HALLWAY, BUT THEY WAITED
ANOTHER HOUR TO STORM THE
CLASSROOM.
THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN AT THE SAME
TIME, BUT NOW YOU SEE IT IS A
DIFFERENT ANGLE AND IT ALSO
HIGHLIGHTS THAT OFFICERS WERE
READY TO GO IN, BUT DIDN’T.
AT THE END OF THOSE 77 MINUTES,
19 STUDENTS, INCLUDING THE
DAUGHTER OF ONE OF THE OFFICERS
STATIONED THERE IN THE HALLWAY,
AND TWO TEACHERS, WHERE DEAD OR
DYING.
OTHERS SUSTAINED SERIOUS
PHYSICAL INJURIES.
THE EMOTIONAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL
HARM WILL BE LIFELONG FOR
SURVIVORS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
IT WAS THE DEADLIEST SCHOOL
SHOOTING IN TEXAS HISTORY.
JIMMY, IN STARK CONTRAST TO
THOSE OFFICERS THAT WAITED OVER
90 MINUTES UNTIL HE WAS ACTUALLY
SHOT, WHEN S.W.A.T. CAME, THERE
WAS 4 MINUTES BETWEEN HIM
ARRIVING AND BEING SHOT DEAD.
>> Jimmy: THERE ARE SO MANY
OVERLAPPING TIMELINES AND
VARIATIONS IN THE STORY BUT THE
ONE COMMON THREAD IS, WITH
CHILDREN IN THE CLASSROOM, THEY
WAITED TO GO IN.
THERE IS NO PARENT WATCHING
THIS, CERTAINLY A PARENT
VICTIMIZED BY THIS HORRIBLE
TRAGEDY THAT IS OKAY WITH THEM
WAITING TO GO IN.
THAT’S A BIG ISSUE HERE.
TWO YEAR LAW ENFORCEMENT
OUTRIGHT CONDEMN THIS AS A
FAILURE, IT HURTS ME, BECAUSE I
KNOW IT HURTS THEM, TOO.
THEY DIDN’T WANT THIS OUTCOME
AND I SAY THIS ALL THE TIME, I’M
EMBARRASSINGLY SUPPORTIVE OF
POLICE.
I WOULD BE A COP IF THEY DIDN’T
HAVE A THING CALLED A BACKGROUND
CHECK, BUT THE FACT THEY DO
MEANS I’M DOING WHAT I DO, AND I
HAVE A LOT OF EMPATHY FOR
EVERYONE INVOLVED, BUT THERE IS
NO WORLD WHERE WE ARE OKAY WITH
CHILDREN NOT BEING THE PRIORITY.
WHEN YOU HEAR SOMETHING LIKE,
"WELL, WE DIDN’T KNOW IF IT WAS
AN ACTIVE SHOOTER SITUATION SO
WE STOOD DOWN FOR A MINUTE,"
THERE IS NO WORLD WHERE THERE’S
KIDS IN THE CLASSROOM AND A MAN
WITH A GUN AND WE HAVE, LIKE, A
SLIDING SCALE TOLERANCE.
THERE IS NO TOLERANCE.
THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE AND
IT HURTS ME TO SAY THAT.
>> Emily: JUST TO BE CLEAR,
THE TEXAS POLICE ENTERED THE
CORRIDORS OF THE SCHOOL
90 MINUTES AFTER THE GUNMEN
ENTERED THE BUILDING, AND THEY
ENTERED THE ACTUAL CLASSROOM
58 MINUTES LATER.
AND TO JIMMY’S QUESTION ABOUT
THE CHILDREN IN THERE, WE HAVE
NOW A TRANSCRIPT, QUITE DAMNING
FOR THE POLICE CHIEF, THAT WE
HAVE AN OFFICER THAT SAID, "IF
THERE’S KIDS AND THEY ARE, WE
NEED TO GO IN THERE."
ANOTHER RESPONDED, "WHOEVER IS
IN CHARGE WILL DETERMINE THAT."
IT GOES ON AND WE’LL GET MORE
INTO THAT LATER, BUT YOU HAVE A
TIMELINE OF THE CHILDREN CALLING
911 THEMSELVES FROM INSIDE THE
ROOM.
>> Kayleigh: YOU HAVE TO
WONDER WHO THE OFFICER WAS.
WAS IT THE ONE HIS DAUGHTER WAS
IN THERE?
YOU CAN’T IMAGINE BEING A PARENT
THERE.
IT IS CHILLING.
I READ THIS ONLINE, THE TEXAS
TRIBUNE EXPOSE WITH A LOT OF NEW
DETAILS.
"BY NOON THE OFFICERS HAD RIFLES
AND AT LEAST ONE BALLISTIC
SHIELD, YET MADE NO ATTEMPT TO
ENTER THE CLASSROOM 50 MINUTES."
THAT’S THE TEXAS TRIBUNE.
WHILE WE HAVE THIS TIMELINE,
MUCH OF WHAT WAS READ OUT TO US
DURING ONE OF THOSE PRESS
CONFERENCES BY LAW ENFORCEMENT,
IT SAYS THIS.
12:03 WAS THE FIRST CALL INSIDE
THE CLASSROOM FROM A LITTLE GIRL
GIRL, WHO WHISPERS THAT SHE IS
IN THE ROOM.
SHE MAKES A SECOND CALL AT
12:10.
THE SAME GIRL SAYING MULTIPLE
PEOPLE ARE DEAD.
SHE MAKES A THIRD CALL AT 12:13.
SHE CALLED AGAIN.
THE SAME LITTLE GIRL MAKES A
FOURTH CALL AT 12:16 AND SAYS
EIGHT OR NINE STUDENTS ARE STILL
ALIVE.
IMAGINE THIS BEING A LITTLE
GIRL.
HE CALLED ONE TIME, TWO TIMES,
THREE TIMES, FOUR TIMES, AND THE
INITIAL CALL HE MADE THE FIRST
911 CALL, THEY CALL THAT 12:36.
AT 12:43 SHE SAYS, "PLEASE SEND
THE POLICE NOW."
IMAGINE BEING THAT LITTLE GIRL
BRAVE ENOUGH TO PICK UP THE
PHONE AND MAKE THE CALL, FOUR
TIMES, "PLEASE COME."
IT IS A DAMNING TIMELINE AND
IT’S CATASTROPHIC.
>> Emily: THE INVESTIGATION IS
NOT OVER BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW NOW, THE
PUBLIC IS DEMANDING ANSWERS AND
ESPECIALLY THE FAMILY OF THOSE
VICTIMS.
>> Harris: WE WILL HAVE TO
WAIT FOR ALL OF THIS TO COME OUT
AND IT WON’T BE EASY.
THE DRIP-DRIP.
THERE WILL BE STORIES THAT
COORDINATE, CROSSING TIMELINE,
WE NOW KNOW, BECAUSE 58 MINUTES
IS AN ETERNITY, SO WE KNOW WE
HAVE VIDEOS OF PARENTS BEING
HELD ON THE PERIMETER, SOME OF
THEM WITH POLICE ACTING AGAINST
THEM, REPORTS OF PEPPER SPRAY,
AND THE CUFFING OF PARENTS WITH
THE PLASTIC STRIP.
ONE MOM WHO MANAGED TO GET AWAY
MAKES IT TO THE SCHOOL AND GETS
HER KIDS OUT.
THERE WAS A LOT TRANSPIRING,
POTENTIALLY, THAT WILL OVERLAP
THAT TIMELINE.
BUT TWO WORDS REALLY STOOD OUT
TO ME FROM YOUR SET UP TO THIS,
AND IT WAS "DEATH."
"DYING."
THE DEATH PART, WE KNOW.
ARE THE PEOPLE WHO COULD HAVE
BEEN SAVED, THE DYING?
LISTENING TO THAT CHILD AND WHAT
YOU JUST RECOUNTED, TOO,
KAYLEIGH, THERE IS ANOTHER WORD
THAT STANDS OUT, AND THAT’S
"BRAVERY."
WE ARE THE HOME OF THE BRAVE.
WHERE WAS THE BRAVERY OF THESE
MEN AND WOMEN STANDING OUTSIDE
WITH UNIFORMS? YOU GO TO
TOWARDS THE GUNSHOTS.YOU DO.
IF YOU AREN’T BRAVE, SIT DOWN
AND LET SOMEBODY GO WHO IS.
>> Emily: THAT’S RIGHT.
MORGAN, THEY WERE OFFICERS THAT
ABSOLUTELY ACTED HEROICALLY.
WHAT WE ARE STARTING TO LEARN
FROM THE DRIP-DRIP, AS HARRIS
MENTIONED, IS THE BUREAUCRATIC
CONSTRAINTS THAT SOME FELL
UNDER.
HOWEVER, OFFICERS WHO GOT TO THE
SCENE IMMEDIATELY EVACUATED
CHILDREN AND OTHER CLASSROOMS
WHEN OTHER OFFICERS FAILED TO DO
SO.
THERE WERE OFFICERS FIGHTING TO
GO INTO THE CLASSROOM.
WEWE HAD THE TRANSCRIPT AND
TESTIMONY AND WITNESS REPORTS OF
SUCH.
ABSOLUTELY, INCLUDING THE
BRAVERY OF ESPECIALLY THAT
S.W.A.T. TEAM, THE BORDER PATROL
S.W.A.T. THAT RESULTED IN THE
DEATH OF THAT SHOOTER.
WHILE THERE IS A MEASURABLE
TRAGEDY, THERE IS ALSO
IMMEASURABLE HEROISM, ALBEIT
PERHAPS DISPROPORTIONATE FROM
THAT DAY, MORGAN.
>> Morgan: THE NUMBER THAT
KEEPS RINGING IN MY EARS IS WHEN
YOU LADIES WERE TALKING ABOUT AT
LEAST 50 MINUTES THAT THE
PARENTS STOOD THERE.
I JUST THINK ABOUT IT, AS A
PARENT, STANDING THERE FOR
50 MINUTES OR 58 MINUTES OR
WHATEVER THE TIMELINE ULTIMATELY
ENDS UP BEING, HEARING THE
GUNSHOTS AND KNOWING THAT YOUR
CHILD IS IN THERE.
I CAN’T THINK OF ANYTHING WORSE.
WHILE WE HAVE SOME AMAZING LOCAL
REPORTING GOING ON IN TEXAS
THAT’S GETTING THIS OUT, THE
DRIP-DRIP THAT HARRIS IS
REVERTING TO ALSO HAS TO BE
INCREDIBLY PSYCHOLOGICALLY
DAMAGING FOR THESE PARENTS,
BECAUSE EVERY OTHER DAY YOU ARE
GETTING CONFIRMED YOUR WORST
FEARS POSSIBLE, THAT THE PEOPLE
THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT
YOUR CHILDREN DIDN’T.
THAT’S WHY I THINK WE NEED TO
KEEP PUSHING WHILE THE LOCAL
REPORTING -- WHILE IT’S
FANTASTIC, WE HAVE TO PUSH FOR F
OF THIS NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN.
AGAIN, I DON’T WANT TO SECOND
GUESS UNTIL HE GET THAT FULL
REPORT, BUT YOU THINK ABOUT
FLASH GRENADES, TEARGAS,
SOMETHING, ANYTHING TO HAVE
DISABLED THE SHOOTER INSTEAD OF
IT TAKING ALMOST A FULL HOUR TO
DISABLE THE SHOOTER.
THAT’S THE ACCOUNTABILITY I’D
LIKE TO SEE.
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET THE
FULL ENCUMBRANCE OF REPORT?
>> Harris: WHERE IS THE LINE,
"MY LIFE FOR YOURS?"
I’M NOT GOING TO PROSELYTIZE,
BECAUSE THAT’S NOT MY ROLE.
THE LORD HASN’T CALLED ME TO DO
THAT.
BUT I AM A WITNESS BY TRADE, AND
WHERE IS THAT PERSON?
THERE IS ALWAYS ONE, AND
DISASTER.
HURRICANES, TORNADOES.
THAT PERSON WHO SAYS, MY LIFE
FOR YOURS, ESPECIALLY FOR A
LITTLE ONE.
IF THEY WERE ARGUING ABOUT
BUREAUCRACY, TO ME, THAT IS NOT
AN ARGUMENT.
SHOOT ME IN THE BACK AS I GO
RESCUE PEOPLE.
WHERE IS THAT PERSON?
MAYBE THEY WERE THERE IN DROVES
AND WE DON’T KNOW YET.
MAYBE THAT’S THE DRIP-DRIP.
I WISH IT WOULD COME OUT FASTER.
>> Kayleigh: THE ONE OFFICER
SHOWED UP BECAUSE HE GOT A CALL
FROM HIS WIFE, ONE OF THE
TEACHERS, AND HE WAS TURNED
AWAY.
HE ARRIVED IN THE HALLWAY AND
ACCORDING TO THE REPORTING I WAS
READING IN THE TEXAS TRIBUNE, HE
WAS TURNED AWAY. >> Emily: APTLY HEARTBREAKING.
IN THE CHARGING PAPERS FOR
LAW ENFORCEMENT, IT SPECIFICALLY
SAYS IF YOU’RE NOT PREPARED TO
GIVE YOUR LIFE OR OTHERS THAT
PERHAPS THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT
CALLING FOR YOU.
I THINK UNFORTUNATELY DESPITE OR
NO MATTER HOW MUCH TRAINING
THERE IS AND HOW MUCH LOGISTICS
AND FACTORS AND ASSETS IN THE
SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE,