Edward stone has declared mission accomplished I like this a lot he added
an interview long interview with The Washington Post
the with a gunman who originally broke the story along with the Guardian
he said for me in terms of personal satisfaction the mission's
already accomplished I already won damn thats strongmen any added
and then he dropped a mic and was like what now
my okay so and the first let's let him explain why he says look as soon as the
journalists were able to work
everything that I've been trying to do was validated because remember
I didn't want to change society I want to give society a chance
to determine if we should change itself dat dat Steve Madden book it now look
if anything this may be respected more cuz in the beginning when I read the
headline
he close mission accomplished ago whoa whoa whoa whoa
i keeping pressure that is easily change anything or machinery me
you still consider an outlaw you know and and so I know there's a lot to talk
about it
but that last line that was powerful to me he said look this isn't about me in
like all I want to change society
I let you know and now you decide right and in that
in that case is kinda right I Ben I think it is kinda mission accomplished
because
now we know yeah he can't have changed no one thought he could change what the
NSA
a sir how they practiced their trade
but he's made the conversation happened and he's changed
yelled get 200 members of congress who care about this
mal them were not enough for them I we got judges who care about it a judge who
declared
the program unconstitutional in a lawsuit that would never have happened
you know he's changed it dramatically you know there's a limit to what one man
could do it I think you hit the limit
night I i agree that he has certainly made an a story where it would not have
been a story
but what what bothers me I guess about the state we're in at least that the
position we're in this whole like will something come a bit
he says he want to give society a chance to determine if its a change itself
and I like that it's being debated and about to head the panel is considering
the thirty-six recommendations for sex
don't tell shorty sex just a reminder here for the complete
it but I don't know if society wants to change itself like
we were talking for months about Obamacare and issues with the website
and Ben Ghazi do people really care at I think they care to some extent but I
think that the left is somewhat apathetic
and the right has shown that they don't actually care about big government
invading your privacy and everything
i jus I don't think we care as much as we should have about what's been
revealed I
undersell using giant obviously I totally agree because I think we need to
change
and I'm not sure that were there look if you poll American people
I think we can are there might up but if you pull our politicians is a different
story
and there's often a disconnect break and the flight is very good let me say in
this the huge disconnect between people the american people
and then what the what will they do about like we don't write what really
got me thinking about their guy out based on and I think we think
I think we're pretty certain the answer to that try and establish we usually win
because that disconnect
right yeah because they like what you're not gonna vote based on we keep doing
what I'm doing which is to give myself more power
right but ben is right dikes knowns job
is done yep you know he can't do any more than he already did he's like look
I let you know what they were doing
that you don't want to change it that's on you I mean I don't get to decide that
right do you think that this is an indication that the the majority or at
least the lines share
what he had to reveal has been revealed that he's declaring this because well
that's
I put up the biggest up the that I have mmm well it's possible I I don't know if
it's some sort of
you know if there's a game going on in terms of his
the basically asylum request the Brazil and how we promise prudently wouldn't
release any more new info
plan might all be a play but I think that is just simpler than that I really
think it's just
him saying a you know any still going to do so
alternative Christmas message in in the UK anything summer things like hey
listen
now you know and Tennessee said in the UK message
but George Orwell from the UK wrote about this brilliantly
and support me worse the people wrote about in some ways
so now it's up to you guys a citizen so he's trying to activate people to say
now you know now you gotta take that next step yeah and do something
and if you don't it's on you right II I i agree after don't think there's
anything I mean
up are there other things that the NSA has done that he knows about that he's
not real
yes will any of them be grander than what we've seen probably not I mean
if they were listening in on all
conversations are on many conversations and taking a transcript and keep it say
about it
at the breakroom right or anything in that vein
I think we know because at that point want to without
will it suddenly became easier for other national security correspondent
to get some sources who would say that's not have a bit
and we haven't really had any stories like that lead
we won't we won't have to go from sixty minutes the
in childhood passports to see what information was real say that
like well he does have the keys to the kingdom if he wanted to reveal to the
russians the Chinese et cetera
how we do things that would be incredibly damaging that should that's
trucked to me about how we do you deal with things
in regard to spying on foreign powers right
right but that's not why I that might be snowing as wave Saint Gregory give that
up right and also
I don't think Americans care about that like we're we know we
we get like yet which by aggressively on foreign powers I
that doesn't that is abuzz with an essential to be as a stabbing me say one
thing it said she and I i don't know potentially
but you know everybody joke about it in the beginning but in a sense
part or the lack about rage I think really stems from
how inoculated we got to this kind of
overseeing prior to this I mean and I'm not trying to be flippant about it
it happens it happen to me twenty times in the last
year and it happened yesterday because I set my
father in law a Christmas present he went to Notre Dame i said im a
a nice Notre Dame zip up fleece
sweatshirt looks kinda bad asking to themselves also bring some you get to
but it's not too late can do like and Christmasy and then I going to
look at my favorite website major league baseball trade rumors
right I and ever every had their
is to buy a Notre Dame that that leads
oh yeah so I mean by everybody's experience this but I mean
if they can do it what I've the I mean
what the government can't do that can address what is the simplest thing the
world just dropping a cookie on your ass
right here right so I mean so yeah so I mean the end
so I presume they definitely know all these things and that's why
when the Rev when the revelations came many people were not
home alone it you know they well that's part of what's known said in his UK
message he said
look our kids are probably gonna grow up in a society where they don't even quite
understand what the concert the privacy is
it right and he said that's that said terrible loss
he let me read more been taken from them while they are simultaneously giving it
up
every single day yet it almost reminds me of like
Walking Dead Like with the kids that grow but they did never knew there was
another world
you know in sorry party to go for okay are
any and son says in then in then message privacy matters privacy is what allows
us to determine who we are
and who we want to be but snow it's a great guy man
FBS that sounds like Bruce yeah yeah
so let me finish I want last couple things here so White House spokesman
people responded in this case kit when Hayden
to stone she said missus known faces felony charges here in the United States
should be returned to the US as soon as possible where he will be
of afforded due process and all the protections our criminal justice system
that spooked me I'm and that felt like the up
what the USSR wanna put out an old ace like
oh you know me mister we know
my Korpikoski can come right back
he will be affordable dollar the new processing criminal justice system
the polit Bureau has in store for air rate
I goes like that mean that sent a chill down my sin
really like know like a understand what he's saying in
he did reveal meant nothing we're just we're coming to get you man
and we will but nothing firm is and your public enemy number one that's never
going to change
I United I didn't take it that way I it's a great point about
like what would have been a statement from pravda yeah
on but a you know to me that's like
he still faces you know i mean don't bet on the fake accent that you get the car
I no work with mister load the bases I would go with the
damage doesn't faces felony charges and we don't really want to talk about this
anywhere
Mike like let alone a lot I don't know I don't know I think about but as a place
that I mean I
with both interpretations are perfectly fair Rinn
up for and then finally snowden says one more thing
he says about the NSA I'm not trying to bring down the NSA
I'm working to improve that and say I'm still working for the NSA right now
they're the only ones who don't realize ok I love this guy
I'm 0 okay I think I love this guy
and of course I think he's totally right rate they
NSA is important any if they actually track down Paris
would be enormously helpful in from time to time they do
but they need to concentrate on that this is a spying on three hundred
some one million Americans cuz it's both long constitutionally legally morally et
cetera
and also grossly inefficient and then you lose a paper that people that you or
overloading Europe able ahead so that doesn't help you
so right now in your ass American people I would say at least half
if you you the NSA negatively not positively
any through the NSA you're looking to protect the American people would you
want them to think
these guys are looking out for us is that im these guys are looking into us