>> THE GENTLELADY’S TIME HAS
EXPIRED.
THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES FOR FIVE
MINUTES MR. JORDAN.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
DR. FAUCI, DO PROTESTS INCREASE
THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS?
>> DO PROTESTS INCREASE THE
SPREAD OF THE VIRUS?
I THINK I CAN MAKE A GENERAL
STATEMENT --
>> HALF A MILLION PROTESTERS ON
JUNE 6 ALONE, THAT NUMBER OF
PEOPLE, DOES IT INCREASE THE
SPREAD OF THE VIRUS?
>> CROWDING TOGETHER
PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU’RE NOT
WEARING A MASK CONTRIBUTES TO
THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.
>> SHOULD WE LIMIT THE
PROTESTING?
>> I’M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN
SHOULD WE -- HOW DO WE SAY LIMIT
THE PROTESTING?
>> SHOULD GOVERNMENT LIMIT THE
PROTESTING?
>> I DON’T THINK THAT’S RELEVANT
TO --
>> YOU SAID IF IT INCREASES THE
SPREAD OF THE VIRUS, I’M ASKING
SHOULD WE LIMIT IT.
>> WELL, I’M NOT IN A POSITION
TO DETERMINE WHAT THE GOVERNMENT
CAN DO IN A FORCEFUL WAY.
>> YOU MAKE ALL KINDS OF
RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU MAKE
COMMENTS ON DATING, BASEBALL,
EVERYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE, I’M
ASKING, YOU JUST SAID PROTESTING
INCREASES THE SPREAD, I’M ASKING
SHOULD WE LIMIT THE PROTESTS?
>> I CAN TELL YOU --
>> GOVERNMENT STOPPING PEOPLE
FROM GOING TO CHURCH, DR. FAUCI.
>> YEAH.
>> LAST WEEK IN THE CAVALRY
CHAPEL CASE, FIVE LIBERALS ON
THE SUPREME COURT SAID IT WAS
OKAY FOR NEVADA TO LIMIT CHURCH
SERVICES.
JUSTICE GORSUCH SAID IT BEST, NO
WORLD IN WHICH THE CONSTITUTION
PERMITS -- I’M ASKING IS THERE A
WORLD WHERE THE CONSTITUTION
SAYS YOU CAN FAVOR ONE FIRST
AMENDMENT LIBERTY PROTESTING
OVER ANOTHER PRACTICING YOUR
FAITH?
>> I’M NOT FAVORING ANYBODY OVER
ANYBODY.
I’M MAKING A STATEMENT THAT IS A
BROAD STATEMENT THAT AVOID
CROWDS OF ANY TYPE NO MATTER
WHERE YOU ARE, BECAUSE THAT
LEADS TO THE ACQUISITION AND
TRANSMISSION.
AND I DON’T JUDGE ONE CROWD
VERSUS ANOTHER CROWD.
WHEN YOU’RE IN A CROWD,
PARTICULARLY IF YOU’RE NOT
WEARING A MASK, THAT INDUCES THE
SPREAD.
>> IT IS A SIMPLE QUESTION,
DOCTOR, SHOULD WE LIMIT THE
PROTESTS.
GOVERNMENT IS LIMITING -- AND,
LOOK --
>> I’M NOT --
>> THERE HAS BEEN NO VIOLENCE
THAT I CAN SEE AT CHURCH.
I HAVEN’T SEEN PEOPLE AT A
CHURCH SERVICE GO OUT AND HARM
POLICE OFFICERS OFFER BURN
BUILDINGS, BUT WE KNOW FOR 63
DAYS, NINE WEEKS IT HAS BEEN
HAPPENING IN PORTLAND.
>> RIGHT.
>> ONE NIGHT IN CHICAGO, 49
OFFICERS WERE INJURED.
BUT NO LIMIT -- NO LIMIT TO
PROTESTS, BUT, BOY, YOU CAN’T GO
TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY.
>> WHAT WAS THE --
>> I DON’T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I
CAN ANSWER THAT.
I’M NOT GOING TO OPINE ON
LIMITING ANYTHING.
I’M GOING TO TELL YOU --
>> YOU OPINED ON A LOT OF
THINGS.
>> YEAH, BUT I NEVER --
>> I’M ASKING YOUR POSITION ON
THE PROTESTS.
>> WELL, I’M NOT GOING TO OPINE
ON LIMITING ANYTHING.
I’M TELLING YOU WHAT IT IS THE
DANGER.
AND YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN
CONCLUSION ABOUT THAT.
YOU SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM
CROWDS, NO MATTER WHERE THE
CROWDS ARE.
>> GOVERNMENT IS -- GOVERNMENT
HAS STOPPED PEOPLE FROM GOING TO
WORK.
JUST IN NEW JERSEY, FOUR DAYS
AGO, IAN SMITH, FRANK TROMBETA
WERE ARRESTED FOR TRYING TO
OPERATE THEIR BUSINESS, THEIR
GYM, THEY WERE ARRESTED.
BUT MY BET IS IF THESE TWO
INDIVIDUALS OWNED THIS GYM WERE
OUTSIDE IN FRONT OF THEIR GYM
AND ALL THE PEOPLE WORKING OUT
IN THEIR GYM WERE OUTSIDE
PROTESTING, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN
JUST FINE.
BECAUSE THEY WERE IN THE GYM,
WORKING OUT, ACTUALLY RUNNING
THEIR BUSINESS, THEY GOT
ARRESTED.
DO YOU THINK THAT’S OKAY?
>> YOU KNOW, I’M NOT GOING TO
OPINE ON WHO GETS ARRESTED AND
WHO DOES NOT.
YOU GET WHERE I’M GOING?
I’M TELLING YOU AS A PUBLIC
HEALTH OFFICIAL, I SAY CROWDS --
>> YOU SEE THE INCONSISTENCY,
DR. FAUCI.
>> THERE IS NO INCONSISTENCY,
CONGRESSMAN.
>> SO YOU’RE ALLOWED TO PROTEST,
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ON ONE DAY IN
CROWDS, YELLING, SCREAMING, BUT
YOU TRY TO RUN YOUR BUSINESS,
YOU GET ARRESTED AND IF YOU
STOOD OUTSIDE OF THE SAME
BUSINESS AND PROTESTED YOU
WOULDN’T GET ARRESTED, YOU DON’T
SEE AN INCONSISTENCY THERE?
>> I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT
YOU’RE ASKING ME AS A PUBLIC
HEALTH OFFICIAL TO OPINE ON WHO
SHOULD GET ARRESTED OR NOT.
THAT’S NOT MY POSITION.
YOU CAN ASK --
>> YOU ADVOCATED FOR
BUSINESSES -- YOU ADVOCATED FOR
CERTAIN BUSINESS TO BE SHUT
DOWN.
I’M ASKING YOU ON YOUR POSITION
ON THE PROTESTS.
I HAVEN’T SEEN ONE -- WE HEARD A
LOT ABOUT HAIR SALON, I HAVEN’T
SEEN ONE HAIRSTYLIST WHO BETWEEN
HAIRCUTS GOES OUT AND ATTACKS
POLICE OR SETS SOMETHING ON
FIRE.
WE HAVE SEEN ALL KINDS OF THAT
STUFF DURING PROTESTS AND WE
KNOW THE PROTESTS INCREASE THE
SPREAD OF THE VIRUS, YOU SAID
THAT.
>> I SAID CROWDS.
I DIDN’T SAY SPECIFICALLY, I
DIDN’T SAY PROTESTS OR ANY --
>> THE PROTESTS DON’T INCREASE
THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.
>> YOU’RE PUTTING WORDS IN MY
MOUTH.
>> I WANT AN ANSWER TO THE
QUESTION.
DO THE PROTESTS INCREASE THE
SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.
>> I DON’T HAVE ANY SCIENTIFIC
EVIDENCE THAT TELL YOU -- CROWDS
ARE KNOWN PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU
DON’T HAVE A MASK TO INCREASE
THE ACQUISITION AND
TRANSMISSION.
NO MATTER WHAT THE CROWD.
>> YOU DON’T HAVE A POSITION ON
WHETHER THE PROTESTS INCREASE
THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS OR DON’T
INCREASE THE SPREAD OF THE
VIRUS?
>> I’M SAYING THAT CROWDS,
WHEREVER THE CROWDS ARE CAN GIVE
YOU AN INCREASED PROBABILITY
THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE
ACQUISITION AND TRANSMISSION --
>> TO YOU UNDERSTAND AMERICANS’
CONCERN?
PROTESTING -- ACCORDING TO
DEMOCRATS IS JUST FINE, BUT YOU
CAN’T GO TO WORK, CAN’T GO TO
SCHOOL, CAN’T GO TO CHURCH,
THERE IS LIMITS PLACED ON ALL
THREE OF THOSE FUNDAMENTAL
ACTIVITIES.
>> THE GENTLEMEN’S --
>> PROTESTING IS JUST FINE.
>> THE GENTLEMEN’S -- THE
GENTLEMEN’S TIME IS EXPIRED BUT
I WOULD JUST ASK THE GENTLEMEN
TO JUST THINK ABOUT HIS QUESTION
AND PUT IT IN THE REFERENCE TO
CROWDS THAT GATHER IN
POLITICAL -- AT POLITICAL
MEETINGS, AT FUND-RAISERS,
WITHOUT MASKS, ON AN OIL RIG, IN
TEXAS, NOBODY WEARING A MASK,