Before we start, Anson - I just wanted to say Come on You Spurs!
Yeah.
Great result yesterday.
And now for the full 7 minutes, I'll probably shouldnt'... How you doing?
How are you doing? Yeah, really good. Thanks.
I really got enough to love the show.
I mean, you're all playing such iconic and well-known characters.
But you never kind of want to veer into being an impersonation.
Just want to kind of capture the essence of that.
How difficult was that?
And how fun was it to plays of such well-known people as the ones you are
There's definitely a line you have to tread, is there?
You know, you have to accept at some point it's not a documentary.
And we act as hired to read a script that we didn't write ultimately.
So that is a line that you have to tread because it is a fictionalization.
But I think we all just became such big fans of our characters
that we chase authenticity as much as possible. Hmm.
Yeah, I think they were written so well and with such detail
and care and nuance that we were sort of set up for us.
We only had to sort of bring bring the essence to it.
Mm hmm. Yeah.
Because I was reading that
you said you didn't know a great deal about Sid Vicious on taking.
on the project.
You think that actually helped in some way because he was kind of like
a blank canvas for you?
Yeah, I was thinking that, to be honest, I think it did.
I think of him with any preflight formed ideas I did.
I guess I had that same subconscious knowledge that I think
everyone really has to some extent, that he was just this sort of evil force
or certainly sort of bad.
Yeah, sort of.
I don't know.
You just associated with all the sort of wrong. He's a wrong.
But I was.
Yeah, I came in with that, so that was kind of nice to have that disproven.
But yeah, I did.
I love not knowing too all too much about them because I could just.
Yeah, I spent the bank just learning everything I could, basically.
Yeah. In fact, Jacob and Anson.
And did you get to meet the real people at any point?
I got to meet Paul [Cook] a few times, which was really great.
He was really, really useful.
We sort of help me learn the drum parts
which just quite kind of surreal playing.
That's that's the guy that actually wrote this.
This is a yeah.
Yeah. It's great to have him involved.
I unfortunately did not get to meet John Lydon -
he chose not to be involved.
But I was lucky enough to get to spend a lot of time with Paul and Steve Jones
and Christie Hall and Glen Matlock and loads of people surrounding them.
Jordan, it was amazing.
who passed away recently.
So, yeah, I still got to meet loads of people.
It would have been the icing on the cake to meet John maybe one day.
Who knows?
Just like,
you know, if you actually sort of did play instruments at the Jack de la Jacob.
You just sang about the drums.
I mean, did you have to pick up that skill just for this
or how did you have sort of experience my day with an instrument.
I played a bit of music before.
Well, that's that's kind of what I did prior to doing this was I'm a musician.
That's what I've done since I was like 13
I played in bands and stuff, but I'm a guitarist really,
and I've kind of picked up some drumming skills over the years,
but I really had to kind of hone them for this to do Paul justice because he
he was a great drummer,
you know, kind of the sort of one of the founding fathers of punk drumming.
But yeah, unless you count the recorder and therefore
I've never played an instrument for we can do, we can let go.
OK, I'm a I'm a very experienced musician.
Oh, cross.
But no no, I was a blank canvas musically.
I actually played the saxophone back in the day.
Jazz saxophonist.
Yeah, I did get lucky.
I said, I can see you as a sax player.
This includes accusations for the crime of self.
Yeah, she got her.
Yeah, it's it's it was a yeah. That that scene was cut.
But I said played the saxophone, which is kind of weird.
He's a good pianist as well. This one. Amazing.
It is I'm really, really.
No, I've got really, like, tough music.
Yeah.
No, I've never played bass before.
I loved it.
I really loved that.
Building up the calluses on my fingers.
I'm playing with Jacob.
There's something there's a really cool sort of rhythm.
Rhythm relationship. Yeah, exactly.
I said being in a band in general, it's such a cool thing to do.
So when you were on set before
you're ever tempted to try and create some of your own music together,
you did a bit of sort of like mucking around with random.
It sort of just happens.
It's really, really just come up with little riffs.
Yeah, every now and then we drive the crew crazy, you know?
Yeah.
You know, it's intense on a film set anyway, and you need to keep quiet.
It's always about keeping quiet
while they're setting off and stuff because people need to think.
So it's not ideal when there's a lot of music around
young people with live instruments, especially me with the drum.
I can't help myself.
You know, I just so you can't, you know, the amount of time.
It's like Jacob, if he would please shut up,
you know?
But yeah, it's just.
Just too much fun, really.
Now I've got a drum kit my 30th birthday.
I don't know, but I got it.
I was never allowed to play because it was too noisy, so it's not a yes.
Yeah, so, I mean, the punk I find when I watch this, there's
something so infectious about that punk energy and that mindset
that kind of, like, carefree, reckless kind of attitude towards life.
All of you guys had to embody that in these characters.
Did it leave an affect on any of you?
Did it change your perspective on the world at all?
Just being in the in the bodies of people that had that kind of that mindset?
Yeah, it did, in a way, or at least learning about it,
I suppose, in terms of sort of individuality.
I used when I used to see people wearing like sort of out their clothes
or like stuff that I thought might be a bit weird.
I think it's kind of funny, but now I sort of have a bit of respect
for people who step out of the house wearing something completely sunglasses.
The other thing
is this my great sunglasses the other day, so he's talking about that.
That was just crazy.
I mean, that was better but now I think it's cool and people
sort of have their own style or, you know, individuality.
I think there's real power in that.
So I respect anyone who can you can do that.
I got so quite sad watching this feeling like
my generation didn't have an alternative to punk in my formative years.
I don't think I've witnessed the birth of the musical genre like my dad's would,
and he's got to live that way.
But I know such a genre that had such big implications on kind of culture.
What did you guys think is the modern equivalent to
what do you think's the closest we've had to the
I think the last sort of
great decade for for new music was I know this is going to sound like a cliche,
but I mean, for me, I'm a big fan of guitar music.
And I think the last time something really exciting happened
that was probably the nineties, to be honest
with all the grunge stuff.
Then that came out of the US and obviously Britpop too.
But yeah, I think I'm just excited we got to experience this
and I'm excited for a whole new generation to see it
and be inspired by it because I think it's had a real effect on us as believe,
you know, you asked about Has it changed us since? Definitely.
I find myself we kind of saying yes to so many more things like invitations
and stuff.
I think it taught me about morality in a way, like don't care
about what other people think in a way what you want to wear
and listen to what you want, listen to do what you want to do.
I think it's so exciting.
I've never had such a musical lightbulb moment as well of the
when I played this character and learning about punk.
And so I just want a bright pink t shirt that says, you know,
they already
It was that or a Spurs shirt...
I would have preferred the love, but from all of the kind of archive footage
that Danny [Boyle] kind of really cleverly kind of interweaves into this.
And then just looking at the depiction of India
at the time, you can see how different India is
as a country these days in many ways to what it was then.
But what for you is the relatable element in this tale
that that places this project in a kind of contemporary
setting will allow for it to resonate with audiences
I think like just that
that thing of like young, young people wanting to, you know,
being dissatisfied with their surroundings is is totally timeless.
You know, that's
that's always been the I think young people will connect with that today
and feeling like you've got something to say, something on your chest.
You want to get off that moment, but no one else is is is saying,
you know, and the Pistols articulated that really, really well.
So, yeah, hopefully people.
Yeah, it always will be about where you're coming from.
Yeah. Yeah. But it also is fantastic.
I've only seen two episodes, but I can't wait to finish it.
And the thank you so much, guys.
Much appreciate. It's good to see you again on set.
And you guys, good to meet you.
And best of luck with at least the series.
Thank you so much.