Hey Teresa, build a Mac Pro killer Hackintosh.
What about the Apple 2019 Mac Pro killer Hackintosh?
Teresa, why don’t you build a new 2019 Mac Pro Hackintosh?
These questions I’m getting quite often.
So, let’s dive into it.
Hi, I’m Teresa from morgonaut.cloud and I provide personal individual support with
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Right on the beginning I wanna say - after you’ll watch this whole video, you will
have better overview of whole problematics and I wanna know your personal opinion.
So below this video in the comments section I will be waiting for your ideas and your
point of view.
I will closely watch all your comments and based on those I will build a monster machine
which could fulfill at least some of your expectations.
So now let’s go to the hardcore part :) 2019 Apple Mac Pro can have dozens of configurations,
from the super duper over 50 thousand dollar one down to just less under 6 thousands dollars.
The real question is, what do you personally expect when you ask me to build a 2019 Mac
Pro killer Hackintosh.
Do you mean in CPU performance?
In GPU performance?
In what tasks you wanna beat the 2019 Mac Pro?
That’s really very important to mention.
Because if you would just want to massage your ego in Hackintosh forums by saying “I
have faster hackintosh than new Mac Pro for just a third of a price is simply not a valid
argument.
To build a hackintosh which would have higher CPU performance is quite easy and even my
“14-core iMac Pro killer” Hackintosh build would be be faster than the base 8-core new
2019 Mac Pro.
And that’s again important - can you see - I said “would be faster than the base
8-core Mac Pro?
But what about to beat the 28-core Mac Pro model?
Ha?
Now the problem starts.
I’m now not talking about some league of small home computers but about high end super
powerful Hackintosh build in 2020.
Latest AMD Threadrippers the 3960X, 3970X and 3990X you simply cannot use for Hackintosh
- you will fail, it’s simply not supported.
Period!
Finito!
Schluss!
No way around it!
Only possibility how to get on par with the 28-core Mac Pro is to build it on server grade
hardware like the Supermicro x11spa-t motherboard and install the same CPU to it as is used
in the 2019 Mac Pro.
But then your Hackintosh would cost overall even more than the Mac Pro.
Do your own research and you would come to the same conclusion.
So you cannot build a Hackintosh which would beat the 28-core Mac Pro in CPU performance
under macOS for less money.
If you would run Linux, then yes, but Hackintosh is about to run macOS on ordinary PC hardware.
Also you should never forget about why is macOS or better say Mac computers overall
so good.
Even with 8-12-16 cores in Mac Pro, you can beat 32 core Threadripper 3970X running Windows
or Linux in some tasks.
So here core count is not comparable.
It showed nicely for example Snazzy Labs in his video last week I think.
It’s simply not just about CPU core count, but about the overall performance when running
some task.
And that brings me to second chapter and that is GPU performance.
Only 2019 Mac Pro can accommodate currently most powerful GPU on planet - the Radeon Pro
Vega II Duo GPU MPX module with an FP32 performance of 28.3 TFLOPs with two GPUs each with 32GBs
of VRAM on a single card.
And again only in the new 2019 Mac Pro you can even run two of these monster cards, so
two dual GPUs with in total 128GB of video memory!
So how you wanna beat that by building a Hackintosh?
Impossible!
You can build a Threadripper monster with four Tesla V100 or Quadro RTX8000 GPUs, yes
you can, but you cannot run macOS on it!
:) And that’s the whole point.
So from previous chapter about CPU performance you know, it’s impossible to build a Hackintosh
which would have higher CPU performance than the 28-core 2019 Mac Pro for less money.
And now again, you cannot build a Hackintosh which would have higher GPU performance than
the Mac Pro equipped with two Radeon Pro Vega II Duo GPUs.
Another strong reason why you cannot compete with 2019 Mac Pro is the ability to buy the
Apple Afterburner card, which cannot be used anywhere else than in the 2019 Mac Pro.
You cannot connect it to any other Mac via external Thunderbolt enclosure, you cannot
connect it to a Hackintosh.
It would simply not work.
So for big production houses where their workflow is whole ProRes based as I have, they can
use even the base cheapest 8-core Mac Pro with one, two or three of these Apple Afterburner
cards and it would kick ass of any super charged PC even running on Linux.
So again in Hackintosh this is absolutely impossible.
So let’s move further to another chapter - and that’s connectivity.
2019 Mac Pro offers on the motherboard 8 PCIe slots and what’s important - four of these
slots are double slot wide, that means you can in theory connect for example 4 dual slot
GPUs or other devices, but still have another 4 PCIe slots free for connecting additional
cards.
You cannot get this on any PC motherboard!
It’s simply again - impossible.
Close to it you can get only using the Supermicro x11spa-t motherboard mentioned earlier with
just 7 PCIe slots, but if you will look at the layout, all slots are single slot wide,
next to each other, so when you would connect four GPUs, those would block all the rest
empty slots.
On 2019 Mac Pro you can get up to 12 Thunderbolt 3 ports.
Show me single PC which would offer this to you, so again - impossible.
When using two Radeon Pro Vega II Duo MPX Modules, you can connect up to 12 4K displays using
Thunderbolt 3 or four 6K Pro Display XDRs - can you do this on your dream Hackintosh?
No, again - it’s impossible.
I can continue further but I think now you have already very good idea about it.
So when I will not count aesthetics, silence and overall quality of the 2019 Mac Pro, because
if I would, then it would be absolutely clear you cannot get even close to it by building
any Hackintosh, then the overall result of an idea to build a Hackintosh which would
beat the 2019 Mac Pro would be absolute fail and mission impossible.
Only when you will start sacrificing some of demands on CPU or GPU performance or connectivity,
then you could build for example 16-core AMD Ryzen 3950X Hackintosh which could work quite
fine, but overall with less performance which 2019 Mac Pro can offer, despite for a higher
price.
3950X Hackintosh could in CPU performance beat the 16-core Mac Pro a bit, but only in
CPU related tasks.
But as I said on the beginning, any Mac is not just about performance of a single component,
it’s about overall performance.
Whole macOS is greatly tied up to specific components and overall they work together.
So at the end only what matters on which machine you will get your job done faster.
So now, I’d like to know your opinions, your ideas what exactly you mean or expect
when you shout for a 2019 Mac Pro Killer Hackintosh.
I will very closely listen to your comments under this video and then build some monster
which could compete with the 2019 Apple Mac Pro in some areas, but as I explained in this
video, it’s impossible to build a Hackintosh which would beat the 2019 Mac Pro in all areas
and absolutely not for less money.
So, I’m waiting for your comments under this video.
Maybe your comment will contain the winning idea of my next monster build.
So…
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