everybody welcome to what the flick and true detective season 1 episode 1
Matthew mcconnell hey would help they're not here
yeah but what about a billion a while the dollar Michael
Bob soul up %uh I was excited
about the show and I think it basically this
I think delivered I was yeah I i don't have an edge well you know we start out
with the deposition so I thought I clearly they were thinking
with that was so great a newsroom that lets and that again I
no it actually it is oh so much like this it oh yeah
the identical no no they're setting up a really interesting story where you have
sort of currents or at least more recent mcconnell hey and harrelson talk does
that well
2012 time in a case that an inmate 95 when they're working together as
partners in louisiana
it's a horrifying should've ritual murder
which the deeper into with a Dell the more they kinda start connecting with
other
cases involving missing children and then of course dealing with their own
personal demons as well
and we may get 2002 in the story
as well from yeah I mean that is that right that's when their relationship
broke off trailer
yeah the nice thing is the writer is set up basically yet bye bye
having flash having a flashback working call the flashback what are you up two
different timelines being
being a dramatize you get the nice thing you can you can't start piecing together
not just a mystery but like what these two times have to do with each other
which is always fun for I think for
a for an audience member to like to to fall that and the writers in a good job
right now
a teasing you with things well as they as they talkin as you see
the 1995 acted out what exactly's happened right
I it's really most other looks like it'll take place in 95 but
who knows yeah we will get 2002 I think otherwise why
at II got no I was talking seriously about this in there was something else
that they have decided that
they like when I show feels confident up for a movie where they can just throw
out jargon
and you can contextually figure out what it is without necessarily having this up
and have it all explain the new
nobody nobody did that more aggressively than the wire
round like right come along for the ride or don't get this right as you but we're
not gonna help you
9 I'll be all try and imbibe an episode 9 then you're not careful over there
there was like what and where people who came out
you know I'm was I want to scale them but that by the end at one site about
skills to call you know like that supposed to 47 Ronin where like the job
Japanese people telling other Japanese people what role in meeting rooms and i
right
sorry I prefer less exposition sometime yes it go because right away
treats the audience it reach the audience like its market knows its
audience yeah
yeah I really I did start watching it with that but the subtitles on
my Dell I did which it was interesting and helped a little a couple times
because somebody's like when they went to get it when they went to the scene
in president with that the yeah
X boyfriend Mariah I am because he
again he made no effort now yeah battle that was a Cajun eat when can I read why
can you turn on the closed captioning
editor that he didn't say anything like the words that I miss were like man
yeah breath but it was still I
the overall I i I like that IIIi
it does the thing they that I like the most in crime stories nora is when the
two detectives are just different enough
to not feel like it's cliche but that it feels like an
a genuine a genuine tension between the two and I
right now the show away lot where I love is that it's its have you taken any it's
too
with their personalities in the sense that like math in Canada got the writer
to write all these literally crazy thing from to say that
better serious that are meant to be serious and you could always a very
tortured character
you also get to enjoy Woody Harrelson going please stop saying is if we don't
quiet time you
however I think so he gets about the car it's just a
overlooked as a silent are more likely to resort to register their hearts be
silent silent reflection
yeah it's great saying this yeah I've never seen this much alumni list on
television blow i kno mainland the thing is that the
visions gets wendy is hedging its bets you you could be
somebody who believes in because I'm economy and all the things he says you
be so he believes in
Woody Harrelson all the things he says it's gonna get both audiences with any
order placed monday
right and you know why is fantastic and like so already got a zillion questions
you want answered like what happened what was their fight in 2002 that ended
their pride
writer Woody Harrelson feels like in that nineteen ninety five guys gonna be
a cop Billy sixty
why is you know whether I'm going right now is that it wasn't by choice when he
says
yeah I got the the securities business and doing some basic PI work
that wasn't November without you and I was like what happened work on his
daughter how it would help what happened counties daughter would have to work on
a health down when did he start drinkin
was a 2002 YZ sort of completely drop down to
and will a not so much I don't for a second believe the mechanic could have
committed the murders I don't think we're supposed to think that
is it possible that others think he did like is that
like that seems that seems to be the %uh the subjects have a lot of the
rightly interview as it goes along toward the end what has you find the
thingy as as you find other thing at the end of the episode
you realize that those two cops arena interviewing them now
I II your you first you think ok maybe they think connie is involved I think no
I think they want as hell think they want to help break down
but clearly letter which did the actual murder not sell united's
but also that so that's that's a great context to put it in 1995 we've seen the
West Memphis Three documentaries and
like it's a perfect time that was ninety three this is ninety five in this
obsession
with the was a was rampant Satan is a man with a great can recovered memories
and I think Runner because at the time when riddick
all recovered memory thing about Satanism is becoming really really big
when you had well the mcmartin trial I think was where that it really never
also a Lawrence Wright's book like
his book remembering satan and then in that whole story that happened in the
North Pacific Northwest that came out around the same time
yet so if you get so that'll be the writer they'll be found out that you how
great also I think just to see like these are the two casper con hey and
and harrelson they do a good job making him look 17 years younger they do it's
me up yes a journey is good he is very active it's good it's about like at the
end of what you could probably do
affectively surely sure that 3rd Heavy Brigade exam
so but like in ninety five these are the two detectives handling it their bosses
white Kevin Dunn
all the other detectives who are all late lifers and
decks no they're all white and then we moved 2012 the two detectives
interviewing them now
our these two young black yeah maginnis how the demographic change
that's a great %uh has happened on in in in louisiana
yeah you know and I obviously you have the whole there's a great scene with the
black church was like well I call the cops twice and you never get my here
write another zone well the sensible serious disagreement
ummm ok I know I was obviously that was different as it is that right
um but you know the sense a place is fantastic i mean that the director is a
is is a
with great pride record every single episode carries a high rate yeah
yeah he's a these are really he did that dj nate the Great hear me about your
diet which was
highly-acclaimed nomas what are the first movies that we review the that I
reviewed what I was doing at the movies was seen on break
no yeah I don't know I love that show was really great he's got a great sense
a place he does a
texture you know so that the fish the show was
really well directed and thoughtfully directive think which is and you know
you and I discussed the over the weekend on my
on my podcast linoleum knife about how one of the exciting thing about
television now is that
we're finding this middle-ground isn't cinnamon is MTV where it sees
episodic serialized stories but that are finite
and the dome River have the the longer like this is a tapas eldon
you you know it to the continue right it does it's a it's a discrete 8 episode
story and
if true that becomes acted like American Horror Story with another attack
historian
about different characters and so i i love that they are
though this is going to be so this thing unto itself yet that you couldn't do in
a two-hour movie and the you couldn't necessarily
stretch out into your with traditional network television kinda you know it
structure
and when you do that you attract people like math book on hand woody harrelson
me a love letter we're going to see these two great actors work every single
week
on you on your however you watching your TV screen right at it like that
me it's like that's just great I mean is a smirk on his first TV
anything I that I'll first yeah I mean
recurring significant role in you know governor I
and he said he wrote was we are surrounded by dozens like name your
it could mean met the guy is it has it that the keys said in interviews that
the one that wanted
good attractions have the piece was the knowing that he didn't have to
like do six seasons sick worse even the missouri was a contain peas
yet right he can't he's you know apparently now a candidate to win
Best Actor millions yeah I get it was the third favorite he was like
edgy afford redford were had were the like coal favorite gym and work on a was
like trying to one but I suspect those are now than it was all your
we were talking about this was clearly shot Dallas buyers club you're sure
you're getting the gaunt mcconnell hell you know
who I also pops up in water wall street you know right so we can go to charter
that
that trunk of his life by the gobos on his return to the wonderful
was that dinner seen up just about all really GSI low initial monahan so why is
he so great she's great and that was just
when they invite when Harrison gets him to come over just because
it's been three months you're supposed to be my way red mmm
and then that moment when because book on A's wasted they want to arrange for
the gotta pick me up but
because we connected with the wife right now he and maybe that's why they fight
in 2002 he who does but like
you know associate gonna come get you now get ahold of mr.
yeah I a great its
I love that scene and I love I really was each
each moment have this episode I get yeah our morning
and when you see seems like the dinner scene and you realize that
you can get a great scene outside of the solving of the murder
there really is about the people involved in the solving a bit and and as
their dynamic and stuff you just know you're in good hands Alicia
yeah like I i I like that ira interviewed Benjamin Bratt want to talk
about the one of the reasons that he finally left
I'll on order was because he said there's only so many ways you can say
can be the committee would want her daughter already en route to the color
of the car
you know and so if this were getting a procedural but it's that the road
character heavy procedural
that they give something to sort of sink their teeth into jimmy smits I every
Jimmy Smits
who was still exist and nice a celebrity ever spoke I he's a good mom
and he said the same thing about and why people
like it just got at he also added
David he didn't say the words but now we don't think they'll stick so much hair
on
that I that there were no scratch girl in so they were
and endings I just like I loved how can anyone sees a clog
their actors including Dennis France who is better at like
coming up with stuff is like I like you give me a script and I'm
I memorized I figure out how to say it well yeah an improviser procedure I only
like that very reason koi leg and the UK this will come and you guys will be
tough on him
you'll be hard on in your community and submit to a
sales tense this baby bag rather pp please write it down I
I so I also loved that you know
we learned so much about work on hey and Israel I think less about harrelson we
learned a lot about mark on a
his daughter's birthday meant something I did not pick up there was because it
thought I was dead any real suddenly
Michelle Monaghan that I kinda figured because there was no like effort to
reach a ring that was going to be the
yeah I thought maybe just get a little with the mom and they don't talk to him
but I mean what I didn't think about anyway it but we'll make
the girl girly season the and the answers you do believe in ghosts and
thats
obviously right we have about the connection right I didn't get it all
until afterwards when i get if the two but you say you think he's this sort of
literal intellectual copper philosopher Cup
and thinks differently than every other investigator probably
but then he has that great moment where the wonderful actor I was about to look
them up I can't remember his name but he
was an NYPD blue often a recurring character in NYPD blue
any was in Deadwood he was the racist stable owner and Edward who released
when the horse killed the kid and he ended up killing the black guy and then
whether the guy with the reverend total know that all that was crazy like geo
Sanders right that was okay
but no the a the cop who when he says a you guys a
you campus the bars this morning I i'm and he said when I gonna do your work
animals back on each acceptance flash them and as you know
and called him running you happy that I played a drunk
in NYPD blue at recurring character any was drunk
in Deadwood he's great and great me is definitely been typecast at this point
but I mean he looks like a cop he seems like a copy knows how to play
shitty you know it's a lot like straight guy fight scenes that begin with a slap
and and their
right rather was also great didn't they weren't pushed away
like my kinda he won that a guy backed off you know you know the thing is I
they think he's these internal affairs oh that's true yeah they said yeah I
think the guys I A
their arm they think he's I or II by the admission is is it means that I a at her
I don't have that I I was worried that if he probably struck me:
even going down I mean like them I thought they were I
I thought the reference there was that he had done something earlier that we
have
we don't know about where week are going to clap call there as I turned in a cup
by thing is we and they learn more remains a lot as a rock coming up on
this
I anyway I was and that you mention the where the reverend come in as the
governor's brother the government had words with my cousin right Eddie Edwards
was the governor louisiana their name
renaming that we're not only but this the notion that there
and it just makes and you see the chief for the state police there's just
sucking up to those guys you shouldn't competent buffoon
came right up our everywhere Kevin died just a great character I'm eager to
learn he can
diz face tells you everything yeah he's terrific and I
but I love them that I just love that scene because
that it's so acceptable that that governor would suggest that we need a
a task force for anti-christian cry prime
and that every and literally no one in the state
would have ever say what's this is ridiculous yeah
about I but of course bill get it
and that's what'll happen someday when I was really into it I like that a lot I'm
hoping to find this guy's name just came all
yeah this server for a very first hour of television on a show this is very
this very much gets the I'm in you know battle approval Michael Harney
my climbing or so he just a couple got slapped in the I love his work
are right we're anxious for for the next seven no to
thank you yes