>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY!
WELCOME BACK.
MY NEXT GUEST IS A JOURNALIST AND ONE OF THE CO-HOSTS OF "CBS
THIS MORNING."
PLEASE WELCOME NORAH O'DONNELL!
♪ ♪ ♪
HELLO!
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
( APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: HELLO!
>> HI!
>> Stephen: NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
>> GREAT TO BE HERE!
HI, EVERYBODY!
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: NOW, THIS IS THE
FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD YOU ON JUST BY YOUR LONESOME, BECAUSE YOU'VE
COME ON HERE WITH CHARLIE AND GAYLE.
>> YES, MY TWO MORNING COHOST S.
>> Stephen: AND YOU GUYS JUST CELEBRATED YOUR FIFTH YEAR
TOGETHER AT "CBS THIS MORNING."
AND YOU CARRY THOSE GUYS, RIGHT?
LAYOFF LAUGH COME ON.
THEY'RE NOT HERE.
>> I'M GLAD SOMEBODY NOTICED.
>> Stephen: YES!
YOU SHOULD HEAR THE THINGS THEY SAY ABOUT YOU WHEN YOU'RE NOT
AROUND.
>> I KNOW.
>> Stephen: CHARLIE ROSE, PUT OUT A SAUCER AND MILK-- MEOW!
THAT GUY.
>> I KNOW.
>> Stephen: CATTY!
>> WE LOVE HIM.
ADORE HIM.
>> Stephen: LOVELY, LOVELY, FELLOW.
SO, OF COURSE, IS GAYLE.
I BET YOU DON'T REMEMBER WHEN WE FIRST MET.
>> OH, MAN!
THEY DIDN'T TELL ME YOU WERE GOING TO ASK ME THIS.
>> Stephen: IT ISN'T ON THE CARD.
THEY DIDN'T TELL YOU I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU THIS.
>> WHEN WAS THE FIRST TIME WE MET.
>> Stephen: IT WAS IN 2005.
>> OH, WOW.
>> Stephen: I'LL GIVE YOU A HINT.
IT WAS THE LAST WEEKEND IN APRIL IN WASHINGTON, D.C.
>> THE WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENTS' DINNER.
>> Stephen: THE WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENTS' DINNER.
>> I'M FAST.
>> Stephen: JAKE TAPPER INTRODUCED ME TO YOU.
>> WHAT DID YOU THINK OF ME THEN.
>> Stephen: I DIDN'T-- I DIDN'T KNOW WHO YOU WERE.
I'M SORRY.
I DIDN'T WORK FOR CBS AT THE TIME.
BUT YOU DIDN'T, EITHER, RIGHT?
>> NO, NBC.
>> Stephen: NBC.
NEVER HEARD OF IT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT, BECAUSE WE WORK FOR CBS.
>> Stephen: THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
THE EYE.
SO YOU'VE BEEN A WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT FOR-- FOR THIS,
FOR CBS AND FOR NBC.
AND YOU FOLLOW THE NEWS ALL THE THE TIME.
I HAVE TO FOR THIS JOB.
WE TALK ABOUT THE NATIONAL CONVERSATION.
HOW ARE YOU SLEEPING AT NIGHT?
BECAUSE MY EYES WON'T STOP TWITCHING.
>> I KNOW.
>> Stephen: THE WORLD IS A CLOGGED DRAIN.
>> I KNOW.
IT IS-- I FEEL LIKE THE NEWS THESE DAYS, IT'S SORT OF LIKE
TRYING TO SIP WATER FROM A FIRE HOSE.
I MEAN, THINK ABOUT THAT.
IT'S JUST COMING SO FAST AT US.
>> Stephen: OH, YEAH, IT CHANGES IMMEDIATELY.
I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW MANIES YOU GUYS HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR SCRIPT
JUST IN THE COURSE OF YOUR SHOW.
>> OUR SHOW IS TWO HOURS LIVE EVERY MORNING.
WE SIT AROUND THE TABLE FROM 7:00 TO 9:00 AND CAN THERE ARE
MEANS TIME WE TAKE THE SCRIPT AND THROW IT OUT AND DO LIVE
TELEVISION, SOMETIMES UNTIL NOON IF THERE'S A BREAKING NEWS
EVENT.
WHEN THERE WAS THAT TERRIBLE TERRORIST ATTACK HERE, THE WORST
TERRORIST ATTACK SINCE 9/11.
WE DID THE SHOW STRAIGHT.
WHEN STEVE SCALISE, THE CONGRESSMAN, WAS SHOT.
WE DID THE SHOW SIX HOURS STRAIGHT.
IT FEELS LIKE THE HURRICANES THIS YEAR-- IT FEELS LIKE
THERE'S A LOT OF NEWS THIS YEAR.
>> Stephen: DO YOU THINK IT'S THE FUNCTION OF THE NEW
TECHNOLOGY IN NEWS OR DO YOU THINK IT'S LITERALLY A DONALD
TRUMP EFFECT?
( LAUGHTER ) BECAUSE-- NO, I'M NOT JOKING.
I'M GLAD YOU'RE LAUGHING BUT I'M NOT JOKING.
BECAUSE HE'S THE LOCUST OF ALL NEWS.
THE NEWS IS SOMEHOW AROUND HIM, IF HE HAS HIS SAY, AND A
MOMENT'S NOTICE.
HE GOES AROUND REAL NEWS PEOPLE LIKE AND YOU USES TWITTER.
HE MAKES THE NEWS EVERY TIME HE TALKS, AND HE TALKS AT THE
ODDEST TIMES.
>> LOOK, I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING TIME FOR JOURNALISM,
BECAUSE THE SMARTPHONE, WHICH WE ALL HAVE, ENABLES US TO DO A LOT
OF THINGS.
IT ALLOWS US TO NOT ONLY BE CITIZEN JOURNALISTS -- TAKE
PICTUREES OF EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING-- BUT WE CAN CONSUME
NEWS A DIFFERENT KIND OF WAY.
AND THAT'S, I THINK, ULTIMATELY, A GOOD THING.
I THINK AN INFORMED ELECTORATE IS A GOOD THING.
I THINK THE CHALLENGE, THOUGH, IS NOT JUST READING THE HEADLINE
S.
>> Stephen: YEAR, HOW INFORMED ARE WE, REALLY.
A LOT OF IT IS FAKE NEWS, NORAH.
A LOT OF IT.
A LOT.
YOU'VE GOT TO ADMIT.
EVERYBODY IS TELLING ME.
EVERYBODY IS SAYING.
>> NOT AT CBS.
>> Stephen: REALLY.
>> NOT AT "CBS THIS MORNING."
>> Stephen: PEOPLE ARE TELLING ME YOU AGREE WITH ME?
>>.
DOESN'T SHE AGREE WITH ME?
THEY WON'T EVEN DO IT FOR YOU.
>> SO I DO THINK-- AND I THINK ABOUT THAT PERSONALLY AS A
JOURNALIST, IS THE CHALLENGE TO GO BEYOND THE HEADLINES, RIGHT.
AND I TRY AND READ THE NEWSPAPER ALL THE WAY TO THE LAST GRAPH.
DO THE JUMP PAGE, FOR ANYBODY WHO STILL RESIDENT THE HARD COPY
OF THE NEWSPAPER LIKE I DO.
>> Stephen: DO YOU DO THE WORD SCRAMBLE AND THAT KIND OF STUFF?
>> I DO.
I HAVE MY LITTLE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTER AND READ TO THE END,
WHETHER IT'S THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION OR DONAL DONALD TR
TRIP IN ASIA AND WHAT HE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ACHIEVED OVER THERE
SOMETIMES COMES LATER IN THE STORY OR IN THE 8:30 HOUR ON
"CBS THIS MORNING."
SEE THAT PROMO I GOT IN THERE?
>> Stephen: BECAUSE YOU COVERED THE WHITE HOUSE FOR BOTH
CBS AND NBC, WHAT DO YOU HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE COVERING IT
NOW?
LIKE, HOW IS IT DIFFERENT TO COVER THE WHITE HOUSE NOW, DO
YOU THINK, THAN BACK IN THE HALCYON DAYS?
>> IT'S EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT.
THE OTHER-- THE INTERESTING THING IS TRUMP THE OTHER DAY WHO
HAD TROUBLE HTO REACH FOR A BOTTLE OF WATER.
THE LAST PRESIDENTS I COVERED THERE WOULD BE A NICE GLASS OF
WATER THERE WITH NO COVER ON IT.
AND NOW HE HAS TO DRINK OUT OF THE BOTTLES.
PRESIDENTS DON'T USUALLY HAVE TO DO THAT.
>> Stephen: MAYBE PRESIDENTS HAVE BETTER HAND-EYE
COORDINATION.
( LAUGHTER ) ( APPLAUSE )
I THINK HE WAS-- HE WAS-- HE WAS-- I THINK HE WAS FAILING HIS
APCAR TEST WHEN HE DID THAT.
THE WORK THAT YOU DO NOW, OF COURSE, IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME
YOU WERE-- YOU WERE-- >> REPORTING.
>> Stephen: THAT YOU WERE COVERING THINGS.
>> LOOK, THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A SOMEWHAT ADVERSARIAL
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE WHITE HOUSE AND REPORTERS WHO COVER
THEM.
PRESIDENTS DON'T LIKE TO ALWAYS HAVE-- OR THEIR STAFF HAVE TO
EXPLAIN WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND IT'S JOURNALISTS' JOBS TO REPORT
WHAT THE MOST POWERFUL MAN IN THE WORLD IS DOING.
THIS WHITE HOUSE IS PUBLIC P.C.LY DIFFICULT.
AND, ALSO, THIS PRESIDENT HAS FOUND THE WAY TO GET THROUGH
WHAT GEORGE W. BUSH USED TO CALL THE FILTER.
"YOU GUYS IN THE MEDIA ARE THE FILTER.
I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE FILTER."
TRUMP HAS FIGURED OUT A WAY NOT TO USE THE FILTER.
HE TWEETS IT.
THAT'S JUST A PRESS RELEASE.
THAT DOESN'T GIVE US CONTEXT.
THAT DOESN'T GIVE US DEPTH.
I THINK IT'S CHALLENGING TO BE A WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT RIGHT
NOW.
I DON'T ENVY THEIR POSITION.
>> Stephen: YOU HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, NOT JUST ON AMERICAN
TV, BUT I UNDERSTAND TV IN KOREA AS WELL.
>> OH, MAN.
>> Stephen: BECAUSE I LEARNED THAT YOU'RE AN ARMY KID AND YOUR
DAD WAS STATIONED IN SOUTH KOREA.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
>> Stephen: WHEN YOU WERE QUITE YOUNG, AND WE HAVE SOME
FOOT ANNUAL OF YOU HERE.
HOW DOES THIS-- YOU LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME.
HOW OLD ARE YOU IN THIS FOOTAGE HERE.
>> 10 YEARS OLD.
THAT WAS 33 YEARS AGO.
THIS TAPE WAS ACTUALLY-- THIS IS MY FIRST TIME I WAS EVER REALLY
ON TELEVISION, MY FIRST JOB.
>> Stephen: AND YOU USED YOUR OWN NAME?
NOT A STAGE NAME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> HI, THIS IS NORAH.
YES, THERE ARE A LOT OF STUDENTS.
VOICE.
NORAH DREAMED THAT SHE MET CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS.
>> SEE YOU NEXT WEEK, BYE-BYE, EVERYBODY.
>> GOOD-BYE.
( LAUGHTER ) ( APPLAUSE ).
>> Stephen: THAT LAST SHOT IS PERFECT.
>> I KNOW.
>> Stephen: THE NEXT THING IS REALLY SERIOUS.
THIS IS REALLY SERIOUS.
YOU ARE MARRIED TO CHEF JEFF.
JEFF WHAT'S YOUR HUSBAND'S LAST NAME?
>> TRACEY.
>> Stephen: JEFF TRACEY, IN D.C., FAMOUS CHEF JEFF.
WHAT'S HIS RESTAURANT?
>> THEY'RE CHEF JEFF.
>> Stephen: AND HE'S G-E-O-F-F.
>> Stephen: DO YOU TAKE COOKING SERIOUSLY?
WHAT'S BRUNCH IN YOUR HOUSE?
>> BACON, BACON, AND BACON.
>> Stephen: IS THIS MADE UP OR IS THIS FOR REAL?
>> THIS IS FOR REAL.
OUR LICENSE PLATE-- THIS IS MY HUSBAND-- SAYS "BACON."
YES.
>> Stephen: WOW >> AND IT DOES GET A LOT OF
GOOD-- IN FACT, MY GIRLFRIEND JUST CALLED ME TODAY, AND SHE
WAS LIKE, "I WAS AT THE STORE AND I FOUND BACON CHRISTMAS
ORNAMENTS.
I'M DROPPING THEM OFF AT YOUR HOUSE."
>> Stephen: WOW, WOW.
DO YOU HAVE A SPECIAL DISH THAT YOU BRING TO--
>> I'M NOT A-- MY HUSBAND IS A TRAINED CHEF.
BUT I JUST SORT OF PICK UP STUFF.
BUT I MAKE BANANA BREAD, LEME POPPY SEED BREAD.
>> Stephen: I MAKE BANANA BREAD.
>> IT'S NOT AS GOOD AS MINE.
>> Stephen: IT'S REALLY MY WIFE'S RECIPE.
I'LL CRUSH YOU.
>> I'LL CRUSH YOU.
>> Stephen: I'LL CRUSH YOU AND SPRINKLE NUTMEG ON YOU WHEN I'M
DONE.
>> I DON'T PUT NUTMEG IN MY BANANA BREAD.
>> Stephen: YOU DON'T.
YOU'RE LIVING IN A DREAM WORLD.
YOU PUT GINGER IN IT.
PLEASE TELL ME THAT I'M WORKING WITH SOMEBODY WHO PUTS GINGER IN
THEIR BREAD.
>> I DO USE GINGER.
WHEN YOU SAID "MY WIFE'S RECIPE."
>> Stephen: IT'S MY WIFE'S RECIPE.
>> OKAY WELL I HAVE MY OWN RECIPE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE
BANANA BREAD BAKEOFF.
>> Stephen: LET'S DO IT.
WE'LL DO IT ON "CBS THIS MORNING."
YOU GUYS DO LOTS OF COOKING SEGMENTES, RIGHT?
>> WE DON'T DO ANY COOKING SEGMENTS.
WE'RE ALL ABOUT NEWS.
>> Stephen: YOU'RE ALL ABOUT HARD NEWS.
BUT YOU'RE ALL HARD NEWS, RIGHT.
>> .
>> HOW DO YOU GUYS DRESS UP FOR HALLOWEEN ON "CBS THIS MORNING"?
>> THE SCARIEST COSTUMES OF ALL-- OURSELVES.
WE DID NOT DRESS UP FOR HALLOWEEN.
>> Stephen: YOU NEVER DRESS UP FOR HALLOWEEN.
>> WE DON'T DRESS UP.
OUR SHOW IS DIFFERENT IN THE MORNING.
>> Stephen: IT IS.
>> WE SAY "THE NEWS IS BACK IN THE MORNING."
EVEN BEFORE THE PRESIDENT WAS TALKING ABOUT FAKE NEWS, WE
WOULD SAY, "MORE REL NEWS AHEAD SM.
AND WE TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY.
IT REFLECTS WHO CHARLIE AND GAYLE AND I.
WE DID NOT DRESS UP, BUT I HAVE YOUNG KIDS SO I DRESS UP AT
HOME.
>> Stephen: WHAT WAS YOUR COSTUME.
>> THIS YEAR I DIDN'T DRESS UP.
>> Stephen: YOU JUST LIED.
I JUST FACT CHECKED YOU.
YOU JUST LIED.
NORAH O'DONNELL.
SOR WE, WE'VE GOT TO GO.
YOU CAN CATCH NORAH ON "CBS THIS MORNING," MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY