-Decoding enemy transmissions.
-President Trump said he's not gonna allow it to happen.
He's gonna send the military to the border.
Roger Stone joins me now.
Roger, in your decades of politics,
have you ever seen anything like this?
-No, Owen, I really haven't.
This flood of illegals into the country seems,
to me, to be playing into the hands of the Republicans.
The only thing worse than being wrong is being boring
and the only thing worse than being talked about
is not being talked about.
-At the center of the latest inquiry
is President Trump's associate and friend
of over three decades Roger Stone.
-If it's cold, I'm wearing a hat, so.
-Longtime Trump ally Roger Stone.
-Roger Stone. -Roger Stone.
Investigators are looking at whether he shared information
with Trump's presidential campaign that,
he believed, came from Wikileaks.
-For months, a spotlight has intensified on Roger Stone.
The investigation into Russia's interference
in the 2016 election is focusing on whether
Wikileaks coordinated with Stone and the Trump campaign.
-You know, there was an indictment today.
-Yeah, who got indicted?
-Russian national, a woman who was involved
in the financing of some social media stuff.
-Knew nothing about it. -Politically explosive
Wikileaks documents allegedly hacked by Russian operatives
were released just weeks before the election.
Washington Post reporter Manuel
Roig-Franzia visited Stone just as
Mueller's investigation appeared to zero in on him.
-People are operating under the assumption
they're investigating you.
And it's more than an assumption.
People who've gone into the grand jury have come out
and said they're asking about you.
-All fair, but. -Only logical that.
-But real media organizations, before they print your name,
give you an opportunity to respond.
-Several of Stone's associates and acquaintances,
including his longtime business partner Paul Manafort,
have been called to testify.
Manafort agreed to cooperate with the special counsel
as part of a plea deal in which he admitted
to two counts of conspiracy and obstruction.
Stone remained steadfast in his denials.
-Are you gonna get indicted, Roger?
-I have no idea. I could be framed.
This I can tell you.
I don't believe that I'll be charged in any crime
that relates to Russian collusion
or Wikileaks collaboration
or John Podesta's verkakte emails,
which I have no advance notice, or notice or knowledge of.
I'm certainly guilty of bluffing and posturing
and punking the Democrats.
Unless they passed some law against bull[bleep]
and I missed it, I'm engaging in tradecraft.
It's politics.
I'm sure it's driving the Democrats crazy,
but there's nothing illegal about it.
-Summer of 2016, you say
that there's stuff coming. -Yes.
-And you also say
that you've had communication with Julian Assange.
-I actually have communicated with Assange.
I believe the next crunch of his documents pertain
to the Clinton Foundation.
-Do you regret making that statement?
-Well, it's an overstatement.
I also clarify it in a hundred interviews,
including several with you.
I make it clear that my communication is not direct,
but it's through a third party, who simply assures me
that what Assange said on CNN in June is accurate,
that there is a treasure trove of documents,
or information on Hillary, and it will be published
and I'm told it will be published in October.
And there is and it is and it does change the campaign.
-Wikileaks has posted thousands of emails
hacked from Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman
and they could offer a new perspective.
-Well, with the camera rolling, tell us, [laughing]
once and for all, what you were relying on
to make those statements in August of 2016
and then the statements that you made later that summer and fall.
-As I have said, Randy Credico, who is a colleague of mine,
at that point, he assures me, through his own sources,
that Assange really has devastating information
on Hillary and he's really gonna publish it.
-What other sources of information did you have?
-Well, I had a secondary source.
A fellow by the name of Charles Ortel had forwarded me an email
in which James Rosen tells Judge Andrew Napolitano
that there are Wikileaks disclosures coming
and they regard the Clinton Foundation.
That turns out to be inaccurate,
but that's the source of my claim in front
of the Broward Republican organization.
But let's come back to a more seminal question.
If someone received information from Assange
or if someone communicated with Assange,
why would that be illegal?
If your answer is, "Well, Assange is a Russian asset,"
I would argue that that's unproven.
No court in the United States has found that to be true.
It's a talking point for the intelligence agencies.
-Manafort has pleaded guilty. -Yes.
-There have been a lot of reports
that he's meeting with the special counsel's office
and there's been a lot of speculation
that he's talking about you to them.
-Yeah.
-I need to drink this before I crush Manuel.
Hold on. I am unconcerned.
Paul Manafort doesn't know anything detrimental about me
'cause I haven't done anything wrong.
I do know that the financial toll on me
and my family has been extraordinary.
I've written five books.
They have, thank goodness, been successful.
Facebook's doing their best to make sure "Stone's Rules"
is not as successful as the previous things I've written,
but I urge you to get a copy. -I have one.
One of the rules is "Attack, Attack, Attack [and]
Never Defend".
-And those are good. -And another is.
-And those are good rules for any political contest.
-And another is "Deny Everything".
-And I do. -Are you doing that right now?
-Yes, and I'm also telling the truth.
In order to discredit a denial, one would need evidence
and proof that's credible and none exists.
Let's cross here and go up. -I'll follow you.
Are you worried?
Are you worried that you're going to be
in prison a year from now?
That I'll be interviewing you in prison a year from now?
-Uh, no, because, if I am falsely charged,
I will fight those charges and I will win.
I haven't broken any laws.
I do recognize a political vendetta
when I see one, but I think the American people do as well.
If charges are brought against me,
they will have to be fabricated
because I haven't done the things that MSNBC
and others allege that I have done.
-Okay. -I think we beat this to death.
-I think we did.