and i'm going to go straight to the live
pictures at the white house because
we've seen marine one waiting there we
saw it land what a little over 10
minutes ago and i think as the cameras
just zoom in you get the first glimpse
of
the outgoing president donald trump with
the first lady
there on the red carpet you can see
there gathered
members of the white house staff and the
president just
drifting over towards them a few
final words and of course you'll
remember the geography of this because
so many times in the last four years
that is exactly where
flanks of journalists crowd when the
president is leaving the white house
on route to an event where so often
we've seen uh
pretty trenchant views given to the
assembled journalists there before
he clambers on board marine one and the
helicopter well just a few final
thoughts
if there are cameras down there i'm sure
in the coming minutes we'll
hear those words from the president but
uh he didn't link along
as a quick wave there to
those people before he gets on board as
we watch these pictures
uh let's bring in from washington the
post national correspondent
mary jordan she is the author of the art
of her deal the unauthorized biography
of melania trump mary welcome to
the program your thoughts as we
enter the early stages of inauguration
day
well i'm about you know i could walk to
uh the white house from where i'm
feeling
if it weren't for all the security and
the guards and
i can just tell you that people are
exhausted from trump
and the countdown is real i mean people
are just kind of holding their breath
until noon and feel like it's uh you
know new year's day here
because last night in the middle of the
night donald trump once again was
wielding his power his last minute power
he pardoned
steve bannon and 142 other people
and right at noon right away
joe biden as a new president is going to
use his power and start reversing
uh all kinds of things on climate that
immigration
i mean it is like black and white on and
off it's like a switch
and uh you know it's just kind of if
you're sitting here in washington you're
like going okay
please let this transfer go down that
trump era be over and let's start again
i suppose what you've just described is
the junking
of a lot of the last four years of
politics it'll be a much harder task
though
when you look at wider america the
individuals the ordinary americans the
70 million plus who actually voted for
him
it is not easy to actually move them
from the positions
they've adopted well you know
it is a really important point that 70
million people voted
um i mean far more voted for uh joe
biden
but i do think um and i'm sure that uh
donald trump lost a lot of those people
that voted for him
when he uh incited that riot um
and yes he still has support but there
is enormous
damage that's happened since january 6
when five people died after he drew
his supporters and lied to them he drew
them to the capitol lied to them and
said that that this was
fraud uh so he has lost i mean i've
talked to
numerous people in numerous states i
spent a whole year
talking to people during this trump
administration in what we call
trump's america and you know a lot now
rides on joe biden he's got to listen to
them
he's got to realize there's a lot of
people with different views in this
country
and i think you know he's up for the job
i mean many people see him he's he's
older
that he's he feels in his head i've got
four years and then i'm out
and they are starting today as soon as
he gets power
boy does he have a daunting task
i think marine when one about to take
off as it heads to
andrews air force base we'll stay with
these pictures for the next few minutes
mary as we talk to you i mentioned there
in the introduction though your
biography of the first lady uh have you
spoken to people who've been in contact
with her
since those appalling scenes on capitol
hill a fortnight ago
you know she went into hiding and i did
i spoke to a lot of people who saw her
and while her husband was
angry he was in the oval office he was
furious at uh
you know people he got his pga golf
tournament pulled from him
his own party started turning against
him and he was ranting and raging
and she was just off in the other part
of the white house kind of unfazed
looking ahead
and she said according to the people
around her she was telling him
it's over she was not in favor of the
rally
she and she starts doing what she always
does you know she focuses on small
details and practical things she started
moving to florida um you know you
couldn't imagine two people with a
different demeanor as impulsive as he is
you know she's kind of steely icy rock
um and yet there they are hand in hand
uh leaving together perhaps the most
unconventional
couple will ever see in the white house
yes and
leaving the white house as we can see on
the screen
it'll be interesting to see if he ever
is actually
going through the doors again there of
the white house in the coming