JODI REINHARDT: As long as I can remember,
I have terrified of dolls.
And since a child my prayer has been
"Please take this fear from me."
My earliest memory is my brother
and I were to have our picture taken with Santa
Claus and the photographer chose a doll
for me to hold. So I can remember holding
this doll and trying to smile and I was
screaming inside, "Please don't make me hold that doll."
Even pictures of dolls can terrify me.
I can feel a beating in my chest rapidly and I start to hold my breath,
but then I feel like I'm going to hyperventilate.
And my instant reaction is to flee.
I know that that doll cannot come to life.
I know there's nothing that doll can do to physically harm me.
I'm still terrified.
When Elena was born I remember crying.
How could I explain to her at a young age
or at any age that she can't have dolls in
the house, because Mommy's scared?
I walked in the door at the care provider's
and there in the middle of the rug is my daughter
and she's got in a bear clutch a baby doll.
And my heart went to my stomach and tears welled up
in my eyes and I started to shake because I thought,
"There's my baby.
She's got this doll and I can't pick her up."
WINFREY: Well, here's what happened when Jodi met Dr. Weiss.
Ms. REINHARDT: A little bit apprehensive.
I feel emotional. I feel emotional.
I'm worried I can't be hypnotized.
And if I can't that means the fear might just be here forever.
Hi, Dr. Weiss.
DOCTOR BRIAN WEISS: It's nice to meet you.
Ms. REINHARDT: It's wonderful to meet you.
Dr. WEISS: Here. Have a seat.
First Jodi tells me about her fear of dolls
then I introduce the process of hypnosis.
Go through the door and through the light
and join the scene where the experience or
the person on the other side of the light in a past life.
Ms. REINHARDT: I see my grandfather. But I--I don't--
Dr. WEISS: Mm-hmm. Good. Very Good. What's he doing there?
Ms. REINHARDT: Welcoming me through when I opened the door.
Dr. WEISS: He welcomed, yeah. Mm-hmm. It's your grandfather.
Yeah. How does it feel to see him again?
Ms. REINHARDT: Good.
Dr. WEISS: It's good.
Ms. REINHARDT: Mm-hmm.
Dr. WEISS: Yeah.
Ms. REINHARDT: I miss him.
Dr. WEISS: Yes.
Ms. REINHARDT: Mm-hmm.
Dr. WEISS: Good. There's a lot of love there.
Ms. REINHARDT: Mm-hmm.
Dr. WEISS: Mm-hmm.
Good. Does he have anything to tell you?
Any messages for you?
Ms. REINHARDT: It's going to be okay.
Dr. WEISS: Good. What wasn't okay?
Ms. REINHARDT: Died too soon.
Dr. WEISS: You died too soon?
Ms. REINHARDT: Died too soon.
Dr. WEISS: Or he died too soon?
Ms. REINHARDT: Me.
Dr. WEISS: You. Okay. It happens, I know.
How did you die too soon? What happened?
Ms. REINHARDT: Car wreck maybe. I don't know.
Dr. WEISS: Mm-hmm. Jodi was having trouble getting back to the
moment of death in her past life,
which I felt could hold important clues that would explain her fear of dolls.
Whatever comes into your mind. What happened?
Ms. REINHARDT: I see an accident scene.
Dr. WEISS: What kind of accident?
Ms. REINHARDT: A car.
Dr. WEISS: A car. Okay. Was there anyone else in the car with you?
Ms. REINHARDT: Mm-hmm.
Dr. WEISS: Mm-hmm. Who did you leave?
Who was in the car?
Ms. REINHARDT: My babies.
Dr. WEISS: Your babies. Mm-hmm.
You left them. Were you their mom? Yeah.
Ms. REINHARDT: It feels real.
Dr. WEISS: Yeah, it feels real. I know.
Ms. REINHARDT: And then I'm kind of gone.
Dr. WEISS: Mm-hmm.
Ms. REINHARDT: And then I'm with Papa.
Dr. WEISS: Yeah. Suddenly and then you're above it.
You can see it's mangled.
Ms. REINHARDT: Mm-hmm.
Dr. WEISS: Do you see any other cars around? Or stores or anything?
Ms. REINHARDT: Just like emergency people.
Dr. WEISS: Yeah.
Ms. REINHARDT: They're comforting the babies who are crying.
Dr. WEISS: The babies are crying. Right.
Ms. REINHARDT: Do they see me dead?
Dr. WEISS: They see you dead.
Ms. REINHARDT: Mm-hmm.
Dr. WEISS: But you're not really dead. You know you're seeing them.
You know you're meeting your grandfather.
Your soul, your spirit went on, but your body didn't.
Ms. REINHARDT: But they don't know that.
Dr. WEISS: They don't know that at the time.
Ms. REINHARDT: Unh-unh.
Dr. WEISS: But you know there's no death now because
you've met your grandfather.
Ms. REINHARDT: Mm-hmm.
Dr. WEISS: He's very close to you.
Ms. REINHARDT: Mm-hmm.
Dr. WEISS: Like a spiritual being guide.
To comfort Jodi, I ask her to look ahead to see
what happens to her children when they grow up.
The children survive that, though,
the babies, and they grow up.
Ms. REINHART: Yeah.
Dr. WEISS: Yeah. So it turned out okay.
Ms. REINHART: Yeah.
Dr. WEISS: Good. That's important to know.
Ms. REINHART: Yeah. They're good.
Dr. WEISS: They grow up.
Ms. REINHART: They do [unintelligible].
Dr. WEISS: Yeah.
Ms. REINHART: Good kids.
Dr. WEISS: Yes. And so it's okay.
Your grandfather lets you know it'll be okay, right?
Ms. REINHART: Yeah.
WINFREY: Wow. So what was that like for you?
Ms. REINHART: Intense.
WINFREY: Mm-hmm.
Ms. REINHART: Extremely intense.
WINFREY: Draining?
Ms. REINHART: Absolutely emotionally draining.
WINFREY: Were you a believer in this kind of thing before?
Ms. REINHART: I really didn't know much about it
but I was more skeptical going in.
But my fear of dolls was so great I wanted to try it.
I said I'm going to be open to it.
I don't think anything's going to happen,
but I'm going to stay open to it.
So in the beginning he would walk me through things
and there was nothing.
I had no experiences.
And then he led me through that door to see if I had a past life and,
boom, there's my grandfather.
At first I was shocked that I even saw anything
and then there was this incredible joy to see him again.
WINFREY: Mm-hmm.
Ms. REINHART: He's been dead now 16,
17 years and here he was extremely real.
WINFREY: Yes.
Ms. REINHART: And I heard his voice talking to me and comforting me.
WINFREY: Really? There's your grandpa on the screen there.
Ms. REINHART: Yeah. Yeah.
WINFREY: So tell me, did--how--we're still wondering,
you know, when you walked through the door I went,
"There's a doll in the room."
[LAUGHTER]
WINFREY: What does this have to do with your fear of dolls?
Did you connect that?
Ms. REINHART: We did. And thank goodness for Dr. Weiss,
that I do have an understanding.
In this life when I was 18 months old I was in the
hospital and my parents couldn't stay with me during that time
and I was given a doll, because I was in the hospital.
And later in the regression I went back to that experience
and first babies were all around me and they were crying
and no one would comfort them.
And Dr. Weiss explained it to me.
I was really hearing the cries of my babies from that past life.
But then in that regression those babies turned into dolls for me.
That that baby that must've been with me that I was given,
that was looking at me,
I somehow associate with that past life,
with my babies in that car with me that saw me dead.
WINFREY: Hmm.
Ms. REINHART: And so those dolls were all around me and it was terrifying.
Dr. WEISS: The babies in the hospital, clamoring, crying.
The baby became the doll-
WINFREY: When she was 18 months.
Dr. WEISS: Yes.
WINFREY: And left in the hospital.
Dr. WEISS: Right.
WINFREY: Okay.
Dr. WEISS: And the fear came from the past life that she
would lose her children, she wouldn't be around to see them grow up.
This is a fear she would've carried over
and been overprotective of your baby and everything
else, but it turned into the doll.
The doll was a metaphor, symbol for babies. Babies.