- I think everybody has someone in their life
that they want to cut out of their life,
but not necessarily in a negative way,
more so they just know that somebody
or something is holding them back.
It takes a lot of bravery to stand up and be like,
I deserve better,
and I'm gonna decide that this person
isn't a part of my life anymore.
This song being the anthem to that emotion and that action
is a really empowering thing for people.
Like, thank God you're not in my life anymore.
It's funny, so when we wrote the song,
I didn't have a particular person in mind.
It was sort of like this archetype of a person
that I saw in my head,
like the LA girl that's always going out,
that's celebrating her birthday for two weeks straight.
That's who I wrote the song about.
Getting to say these things in a song
with this tone of nonchalance and happiness
and celebration for cutting someone out of your life,
I thought was like a really interesting juxtaposition
because I'm focusing on all the negative aspects
of this person.
I didn't write it like,
oh, I don't care about you, so I forgot your birthday.
I wrote it like,
your birthday was literally last Thursday,
why are you still celebrating it this week?
There's a type of person that always wants to be out
and that always wants to be in the scene and connected
and like with cooler people.
If that's what you wanna do every night of the week
and every weekend, there's something wrong.
I don't know, I think the way that I navigate
in the social scene in the music industry
is I'm still really tight with all my home friends.
I live with two of my home friends,
and I also still love going out and meeting people
and hang out with my artist friends.
Me being involved in all those things really grounds me
and let's me not get swept up in the craziness
that is the music industry.
And I think this girl that this song is about
fucking loves that world
of like the scene and being swept up
and like, social climbing, literally.
I don't know, I'm thinking of like cartoons
that I used to watch when I was younger,
and just like the romanticism of like a sail
or that's like always on the road
and like is attached to nothing on land.
That's sort of like the metaphor
that I was reaching for in my head.
It's really about like, I'm already gone.
Like, I've already decided
that this person is not my friend,
and I don't want anything to do with them.
I'm putting in all of this energy to cut you out of my life,
and I'm really trying to not be mean about it,
and if you had a shred of dignity,
you would like accept that,
and like help me sever these ties
by like not calling me
because this is obviously toxic.
That was just the best way to start the chorus.
Don't even call me.
Like, stop calling me before you think of calling me.
Don't you even fucking think about calling me.
It's like that energy.
It's like we know this isn't working.
We know this isn't healthy.
Why are you convincing yourself
and trying to convince me that it is healthy?
Sometimes I just wanna, I would pick up the phone.
Either I'm curious, I'm like,
what could they possibly have to say to me?
Or I'm like, is something wrong?
Like, is someone in trouble?
Is someone hurt?
But like I think the smart part of me knows
to just ignore that regardless.
I'm not gonna apologize for the way that I feel.
At the same time, I am sorry if it's hurting you.
There's such like a dual personality in the song
because I really wanna treat everyone
around me with kindness,
but like if somebody is doing fucked up shit to you,
if the worse thing I'm doing is cutting you out of my life,
that's not malicious.
That's just like okay, bye, I'm done, I don't need this.
Even though it's not who I am as a person feeling this way,
like, I've obviously felt this way,
and I think just expressing it in a song and putting it out
is just a moment, you know, it's not who I am.
She wants me to come over and just talk through
whatever the situation is.
The only reason I'll come over
is to like tell you to your face that this is over,
I'm not your friend, we are not friends, this is nothing.
Like, that's the only reason I'll come over,
but I'm not gonna do that
because that's like, I don't know,
that's harsh, and that's hard and like, I don't know.
I say that line sarcastically, almost.
Like, you're gonna be fine.
Like, you have a whole life outside of this situation.
You're gonna move on.
Everything's gonna be all right.
Like, stop caring so much about this.
You're friends are gonna have an opinion about it.
Maybe they think I'm being harsh or whatever it is,
but like, I don't want anything to do
with any part of your life,
and that includes your friends
because I don't want all of these negative
aspects of their life.
I don't care what you have to say about this,
and I don't care what your friends
have to say about it, I'm out.
I'm not as nonchalant and easy about it as it sounds
like I am in the song.
Like, the song is a mood.
It's made to make this very intense
emotional thing feel easy,
but in reality, it's like a really difficult thing
to cut someone out of your life
because it's not like all of a sudden I hate this person,
it's more that I know that they're bad for me,
and I know that the dynamics of the relationship
are damaging to likely both of our mental healths.
That is such a casual, playful way
to say a really serious thing.
Daring, watch me disappear.
It sounds like I'm about to do a magic trick,
but in reality, I'm cutting you out of my life
and walking away.
And ignorance is bliss, I hear.
I think I flipped that phrase a little bit
because ignorance is bliss usually means
if you're not thinking about something,
then you have nothing to worry about.
If you don't know about it,
then it doesn't exist-type argument.
So it's sort of like ironic
that I would tell her ignorance is bliss, I hear
because I'm telling her,
"Oh, just ignore me, just forget about it.
"It's gonna be fine."
I think I'm always the one to open up in a relationship,
but not in the hey, I really like you kinda way,
more in the like, hey, I'm gonna be honest with you
about my expectations.
For example, what usually happens is like,
I really like hanging out with you.
I don't know where this is gonna go,
but I'm not thinking about that yet,
and I hope that's cool.
I feel like that's the easiest way to start something.
You're not doing anything wrong.
Even if that person likes you
and you decide you don't like them,
at least you were honest the whole time,
and there's nothing they can hold against you
besides the fact that they got hurt
if you don't wanna be with them.
But I think if I did like someone
early on in a relationship,
I wouldn't say it,
and I wouldn't say exactly what I just said before
because that makes it, I think, fun.