- She's still there haunting him.
- It's just so sad.
There never would've been a series like this
when I was the age it's appealing to.
♪ (industrial intro) ♪
♪ (haunting music) ♪ - Looks like my old high school.
- (Clay) I felt like this whole thing was gonna be over...
- It's 13 Reasons Why, okay.
- Ohh! 13 Reasons Why, season two.
- I saw the first season of this. It was such a good show.
- (Clay) ...but it's not. - Never seen this show before.
- I'm not gonna like this.
- Oh, "not the only one."
- (Hannah) What are you gonna do about that?
- Ooh. - She's still there haunting him.
- Okay, see, I really liked season one.
I think since I liked the book, I don't know where they could
possibly take season two.
- Whoa! This is so dramatic.
♪ (haunting music continues) ♪ - ♪ How far does does the dark... ♪
- Uh-oh. High school's brutal.
- (Sheri) You don't know what was happening in this photo.
- Oh boy. I was wondering how they were gonna make
a second season of this show.
- (Bryce) We're all in this together now.
- Oh no. He's awful! He's the worst.
- (Sheri) Don't you know about what goes on at this school?
- (Clay) This is proof of who they all are.
- Okay, I'm up for this. This is good.
- (Zach) It's gonna keep happening.
- This is high school? - That doesn't happen in high school.
- Boy, oh boy.
- Okay, so this is gonna be about the rapist dude then,
it sounds like, 'cause it's trying
to put everything together. Hannah wasn't the only one
that he victimized.
- (Olivia) There is nothing left worth having except justice
for our daughter. - Poor mom. Gosh.
- ♪ If the coast is clear ♪
- That's one of the things the show does well
is the intensity and the emotions of it all,
so I'm interested still. I'm just still torn.
- They have guns now? Whoa.
- (Clay) I can't count on anyone else anymore.
I have to do this myself. - (Justin) You don't.
- (Clay) No one's gonna get justice for her.
- Ohh. - These shows get me
too emotionally invested. This is why I can't do this.
- (Clay yells) - Ooh.
May 18th. That's pretty soon.
- (sighs) I think it's just so sad. There never would've been
a series like this when I was the age
that it's appealing to. - I've had students
that have read it and done book reports
and things on it. It motivated some conversations
for some people about suicide.
- I read the book "13 Reasons Why," and it ended after they talked
to the counselor and stuff. So that's why I'm kind of
just like-- season two, they're sort of just making it
just because they profited so well off of season one.
- I know there's so many complaints out there by parents
of saying it promotes suicide.
Parents, this promotes having conversations with your children.
- I'm very, very vocal about suicide prevention.
I've volunteered with suicide prevention,
and it's a very important topic. We should all be more involved
in preventing it. Do I think this is the best way
to go about it? No.
But I definitely love the fact that they're bringing it to light.
- (FBE) So that was the trailer for season two of the Netflix show,
"13 Reasons Why." - I saw a lot of it.
I didn't see the whole thing.
My daughter watched it cover to cover as soon as it was out.
She binge watched the whole thing and we talked about it.
- (FBE) The first season focused on the suicide of student,
Hannah Baker, who leaves behind 13 tapes for her former friends
to find, explaining the very reasons that led to her decision
to take her own life. - Wow, that's different.
- (FBE) From watching this trailer, do you think the second season
will be as controversial and impactful as the last one?
- Yeah. It really makes you ask, and it really makes you
tempted to see, to find out what's the buzz.
- Depression, suicide, it's a big problem that we face
in today's society, so I think that's probably
why the show's so popular, because people feel
like it's relatable. - There's a bit more
of a realism now in the way they do these shows to me.
You know, this ain't Andy Hardy.
- There's a lot of issues that are covered
that do happen to real high schoolers.
Do I think the production itself was accurate? No.
Do I think the intentions were bad? No.
I got so many hate comments, because I didn't like the show.
People legit told me to kill myself, and I was like,
"Isn't that kinda the exact op--" like, I-- it was just really ignorant.
- The mere fact it's coming back for a second season is controversial.
It looks like it's going to talk not just about
bullying creating suicide. For Hannah, I think it's more going
to say there are other people out there
that are being bullied and what avenue are they going down.
- It's just real sad that that's entertainment.
If it could teach lessons, and it could make girls stronger
and make them speak out, that's good,
and help with teen suicide, but it just looks
like it'd be really tough to watch.
- (FBE) The first season of "13 Reasons Why"
dealt with a lot of dark subject matter
like rape and suicide in a high school environment,
and in turn, was one of the most tweeted about shows
of 2017. The plot for the new season
has been kept secret, but we do know that the new season
picks up where the last one left off. This time, there's a series
of strange Polaroids that will lead the students
to uncover a nasty secret and the attempts made
to cover this new secret up. - (exhales shakily) That's...
It's like high school to the 10th power.
- (FBE) Based on what you know, what do you think
of this second season? Do you think it'll have
the same response, the same reactions from people?
- I don't think it's gonna have the same response.
Season two, I think, is gonna come with mixed reviews
of the people who really liked the book
versus the people who really liked the TV show.
- What'll be interesting to see is, again, what message
are they delivering this time. And if it's the same,
hopefully, it'll still have that same impact.
- As creators, we were always attacked by the elements
of a song or a TV series, attacked by society, saying,
hey, we're causing these things to happen
when they're actually happening.
You know, it's just really a reflection of life.
- I've struggled personally with this issue.
I've known people who have decided
to take their own life. When it's a show about that,
you do have to explore healthier options,
because you know that your audience is young.
You know that your audience-- some of them may actually
be experiencing emotions like this,
and you need to bring awareness to healthier options.
- (FBE) After the first season of "13 Reasons Why"
was released, there were many who praised the show
for its subject matter and for opening more conversations
about serious issues like suicide, bullying, and rape.
But there are also others who felt the series
glorified suicide, and it didn't really
put it in a proper context for a character's misguided
rationalization for suicide. Do you think having this type
of show around is helping to keep these tough issues relevant
within society, or the fact that this is a TV show
in the business of entertainment take away from the lessons
one can learn from watching?
- A little bit. I feel like you have to cut 'em some slack,
because it is a TV show, so you want it to be dramatized.
It's gonna be extra. But at the same time,
I feel like people that really deal with suicide,
it can be kind of hurtful to them.
- You kind of have to be careful with the way you're gonna
depict suicide and dark matter like that,
because it can really hurt people to even see visuals of that.
What the show does good but also unintentionally
is starting a conversation. But that conversation only comes out
of the controversy of the show.
- It kind of glamorizes things and I...
That's why I don't have a problem with it, 'cause I'm just
taking it more as entertainment. It's not supposed to be
a public service announcement or an after school special.
- It's really about what's the goals of these people.
Are they trying to create unique and original content
that exposes the realities of bullying?
Or are they trying to be opportunist,
and they're trying to notice that, "Oh, we made a bunch
of money season one. Let's make five seasons"?
- Even though it did have moments of making it seem like it was okay,
I think it was good that it did swing back around.
It made me realize that there are points
that people can get to that, you know, you need help.
You have that fine line of entertainment, reality,
and trying to balance it so it doesn't seem like,
it's coming across too fake or not real.
- All these things that are happening in our society,
I can only say if anybody's really serious,
there's gotta be a connect at some point in a child's life,
male or female, with the parent.
And pray to God that there is a parent there.
Young people need correction. I did. It hasn't changed a bit.
- (FBE) So finally, the series is titled "13 Reasons Why."
And by the end of season one, viewers already knew
all 13 reasons why. But now the story continues
with season two, so do you think it should have ended after season one,
or are you happy that there's a second season?
- I think it should've ended after season one
just because I like the book.
I just feel like it's not staying true to the series itself.
- The impact it might've had might've been a little bit different
if they ended it after season one.
But I think because people have a lot of questions,
it was smart to make a season two.
- I don't like that there's another season,
but because I think the issue's important,
and I hope that they fix everything that I hated in season one,
I do think it's important to talk about it more.
- They should keep going as long as they keep
dealing with major problems in a positive way
and trying to help people and entertain them.
There's nothing wrong with that.
- Oh, I think there's way more story to tell.
- The point of that is to say Hannah wasn't the only one
being bullied, guys. There's other--
There's these bad things that happen to more
than just one student, so let's pull the curtain way back
on this and see what are the repercussions of that.
- The entertainment side of me loves that there's a second season.
But to the point of, you know, the message that was being delivered
in the first season, I don't know.
I don't know if the second season is gonna drive that same message
the same way it did, because it was such a new
and fresh idea for season one.
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