Hey, Sara.
How are you?
I'm great.
Good to see you.
I haven't seen you forever.
Forever.
Where are you right now?
What's happening with all that yarn, or string, or whatever
it is?
I'm at my house but they are these spools.
They're from a rug factory in Italy,
and they made rugs with them essentially.
So when they shut down the factory, they sold them.
So if you'd ever like to come over and spin a rug with me,
you're welcome.
[LAUGHTER]
I've been wanting to spin a rug, so, yes.
[LAUGHTER]
But it's very cool looking.
The last time you were on the show,
I've seen you since then obviously,
but the last time you were here was season one,
which I cannot believe that it's been that long.
It's so crazy.
Oh my God, it's like I'm a different-- we're
both different people, right?
Right.
So you co-created the talk show, right, The Talk?
I created The Talk show actually, yeah.
Right.
So did you think you would have your own talk show?
No, I actually had a joke with a friend
before that, that I would be the absolute worst talk show
host because I'm shy and don't love to talk that much.
[LAUGHTER]
So we acted out a whole spoof where
I would sit basically like in a dark basement with guests
and not say much, and it would just be really awkward,
and we never end up making it.
But then, for some reason, I decided
to make a talk show, which I don't really understand how
that happened or what happened.
And then when I went to sell it, I was so nervous.
But I felt like it was good for my spiritual growth
because I was so afraid to speak in public.
But I said to them when I was pitching it,
I was like, you guys are probably
going to buy this because I don't want to do it.
[INAUDIBLE]
[LAUGHTER]
That's how you sell a show here, yeah.
[LAUGHTER]
So I'm looking through your stuff today,
but knowing you're coming on I cannot believe your oldest kid
is now 16.
I mean, I saw them when they were little, tiny.
16, you have a 16-year-old.
It's crazy, isn't it?
Yeah.
And is he driving?
I guess you could call it driving.
[LAUGHTER]
I'm afraid of it.
What happened was at the beginning,
you have to I think in California
I have an instructor come for the first few lessons,
and I was happy.
I felt it was something I should farm out,
that I wasn't really equipped emotionally to handle it.
Uh-huh.
So he did go on a few lessons.
And then as the pandemic was getting worse,
we thought, oh, we can't do the lessons.
Everybody's in lockdown.
And I was like, OK, well, I don't
want him to just not practice.
And I knew the teacher had taken him
out and all these places, and downtown, and on the freeway.
And so I was like, all right, he seems OK on the street.
We can go on a freeway.
And I was, I mean, screaming and going like, oh my God, stop,
pull over to the side.
And then I thought I'm never--
I mean, he may never learn to drive because I'm never
taking him again.
[LAUGHTER]
Well, it sounds like he shouldn't drive.
If you're in the car screaming.
I mean, that is not a good sign that a passenger is screaming.
I've never driven while someone is screaming.
To be fair, he was just learning and I think I just--
because the teacher took him; I thought he was ready for that.
I'm sure he will be an amazing driver.
OK.
[SARA LAUGHS]
[LAUGHTER]
I'd like to know when he's on the road.
We're running out of time, so let's talk about The Conners.
It's in its third season now, and it was your idea, again.
So you started The Talk show, and then you started this show
to come back together again.
Congratulations on that, Sara.
That's fantastic.
Thank you, Ellen.
Thank you so much.
And you're having fun.
It looks like you're loving it.
Yeah, we're having so much fun, and we're
trying to balance what's going on for people.
We're telling a bunch of different stories and stories
about our interpersonal relationships.
And me and my boyfriend, we are having some tension between us
this season, but we're also trying
to cover some of the COVID.
Not doing it all the time, but because it
is something our audiences are facing,
we decided not to ignore it essentially.
Yeah.
Well, it's great, and I'm just so happy for you.
You're doing very well, and I hope to see you soon.
I haven't seen you in ages, but I hope to see you soon.
The Conners airs Wednesdays at 9:00 on ABC.
We'll be back.
Thanks, Sara.