THIS CASE.
HARRIS?
>> Harris: JENNIFER GRIFFIN AT
THE PENTAGON, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
I WILL BRING IN ROB O'NEILL, THE
RETIRED NAVY SEAL WHO WE KNOW
WORLDWIDE AS THE MAN WHO KILLED
USAMA BIN LADEN, AND AUTHOR OF
"THE OPERATOR."
YOU TELL ME STILL WHEN YOU HEAR
THAT WHEN IT FEELS A LITTLE OUT
OF BODY FOR YOU.
>> WAS ALMOST TO THE POINT WHERE
I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BUT THERE'S
NO WAY IT HAPPENED.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS --
>> Harris: WE ARE GRATEFUL TO
YOU AS A NATION.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS
CONVERSATION THAT IS GOING ON
VERY PUBLICLY.
MY ONE CRITICISM HAS BEEN IF WE
ARE GOING TO HAVE THESE
CONVERSATIONS, GOOD LORD, CAN WE
DO THEM IN PRIVATE SO OUR ENEMY
DOESN'T SEE US GRAPPLING OVER
THINGS WITH OUR MILITARY?
I WANT TO FIRST GET YOUR
THOUGHTS ON THE FIRST REACTION
TO WHAT HAS PLAYED OUT.
>> WE HAVE THE FORMER
SECRETARY OF THE NAVY
COMPLAINING ABOUT A LACK OF
CHAIN OF COMMAND, WHEN HE IS
GOING BEHIND HIS BOSS'S BACK IT
-- BEING THE SECRETARY OF
DEFENSE -- TO GO WHITE AND DON
MIGRATE TO THE MIGHT OF THE
METAL HE HAS NO BUSINESS DOING.
WITH THE PRESIDENT PARDONING
EDDIE GALLAGHER'S ARMY STICKING
RESPONSE WILL BE OFF OF THAT
AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE, SAYING,
"THIS IS THE END, THAT'S HOW IT
SHOULD END."
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THAT WAY.
SO MANY PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED IN
THIS FOR PERSONAL GAIN.
EVERYONE FROM THE PROSECUTOR
SENT TO THE NCIS IS TRYING TO
GET GALLAGHER IN PRISON.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS GOT SO BIG
IN THE FIRST PLACE.
>> Harris: I WANT TO GET A
REACTION TO A COUPLE OF ITEMS.
REMOVE US CRITICIZED THE
PRESIDENT AND FOR GETTING
INVOLVED IN THE CASE, SAYING
NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED
IF THE PRESIDENT STAYED OUT OF
IT.
WATCH.
>> IF THIS PRESIDENT HAD NOT
COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATELY,
WILDLY INAPPROPRIATELY, INSERTED
HIMSELF INTO THIS CASE, NONE OF
THIS WITH A BE HAPPENING.
THIS IS A DIRECT RESULT OF HIM
REACHING DOWN, THROWING THE
MILITARY JUSTICE SYSTEM OUT THE
WINDOW, THROWING RESPONSIBILITY
AND ACCOUNTABILITY OUT THE
WINDOW, AND FUNDAMENTALLY
DISRESPECTING AND DISHONORING
THE SEALS AND ALL OUR TROOPS.
>> Harris: ROB, WHAT DO YOU
SAY?
>> IT'S ODD THAT SECRETARY MAY
BEST DOESN'T REALIZED THE TOP OF
THE CHAIN OF COMMAND IS THE
COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF,
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS.
IF YOU WANT TO INSERT HIMSELF,
HE CAN DO THIS.
IT'S WILDLY INAPPROPRIATE FOR A
LOT OF THESE HIGH-RANKING
CIVILIANS IN CERTAIN SPOTS IN
THE PENTAGON JUST -- IT'S ALMOST
LIKE THEY ARE #Resist PEOPLE.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
IT MAKES US A LAUGHINGSTOCK.
NOT JUST TO OUR ENEMIES BUT OUR
ADVERSARIES.
PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THIS
RIDICULOUS STUFF GOING ON.
IT'S UNNECESSARY.
>> Harris: SECOND ITEM I WANT
TO GET YOUR RESPONSE ON,
POLITICO TODAY REPORTING THAT
THE PRESIDENT'S STRAIN INSIDE
THE PENTAGON INSPIRES THE TALK
POTENTIALLY MORE DEPARTURES.
HERE'S A QUOTE.
"A HANDFUL OF THE PENTAGON'S
HIGHEST RANKING OFFICIALS HAVE
BEEN DEBATING JUST WHEN THEY
WOULD FEEL COMPELLED TO RESIGN
OVER WHAT THEY SEE AS TRUMPS
REGARD FOR THE CHAIN OF
COMMAND."
YOUR REACTION?
>> FIRE THEM.
GOOD.
WE NEED THIS.
IF YOU WANT TO USE A WAR, GET
LAWYERS, POLITICIANS, AND
FOUR-STAR GENERAL INVOLVED.
IT'S ALL POLITICS.
FIRE THE PERSON SAYING THAT AND
FIRE THEIR BOSS FOR NOT KEEPING
PEOPLE IN LINE.
>> Harris: IT'S INTERESTING
WHAT YOU SAY.
SOME OF THE CRITICISM ABOUT THE
PRESIDENT GETTING INVOLVED, ROB,
HAS BEEN THAT HE IS MAKING THIS
ABOUT POLITICS.
WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT
MAYBE POLITICS WERE ALREADY
THERE?
>> THE POLITICS OF THE PROBLEM.
AGAIN, A LOT OF GREAT CIVILIANS
AND GET OFFICERS.
I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY FIRE ALL
OF THEM.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEY INSERT
THEMSELVES TO THE POINT --
WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS WHEN IT GETS
THE LEVEL OF WHAT U.S.
GRAMMARIAN STRING A CORNER,
DAYLIGHT IN FALLUJA, HE HAS HALF
A SECOND TO MAKE A
LIFE-AND-DEATH DECISION ON WHO
IS GOING TO SHOOT.
HE'S WONDERING, "WELL I GO TO
JAIL IF I SHOOT THIS BACK
ARGUMENT" IT'S A LOT OF THE
SWAMP, TO BE HONEST.
A LOT OF THE BUREAUCRATS IN D.C.
>> Harris: WE WANT TO GET TO
SYRIA, WHERE HE REENGAGED HERE.
AS A FORMER NAVY SEAL, HOW DO
YOU LOOK AT THIS IS WHETHER
GALLAGHER SHOULD KEEP HIS
TRIDENT?
IT'S DIFFICULT.
>> WHERE HE KEEPS IT DOESN'T
MATTER.
I WOULD EVEN SAY ON TWITTER THAT
I WILL GIVE HIM MINE, HIS LEGACY
WILL GO DOWN AS IT IS PRETTY
WILL BE NAVY SEAL CHIEF
GALLAGHER FOREVER.
HE'S RETIRING VERY SOON.
BECOME A CENTRAL BATTLE THE
WHITE HOUSE, FROM ADMIRAL GREEN.
BECAUSE I JUST CAN'T, FOR SOME
REASON, EXCEPT WHAT'S GOING ON
IN WASHINGTON.
IT'S MIND-BOGGLING TO ME.
WE SHOULD BE CONCENTRATING ON
THE REMAINDER OF ISIS, WHAT
AL QAEDA IS DOING, WHAT'S GOING
ON, ALL THE NONSENSE IN THE
SWAMP.
>> Harris: YOU BRING UP A GOOD
POINT.
LET'S DO THAT.
THE U.S.-LED COALITION HAS
ANNOUNCED IT IS RESUMING
LARGE-SCALE OPERATIONS AGAINST
ISIS, AS YOU WERE JUST TALKING
ABOUT, AND WAS IN SYRIA.
NEARLY TWO MONTHS AFTER THE
PRESIDENT ORDERED TO WITHDRAW
TROOPS FROM THE REGION.
MY BIG QUESTION TODAY, THE
PRESIDENT SAID WE HAD DEFEATED
ISIS.
WHAT IS HAPPENING?
HAS SOMETHING CHANGED?
>> WE WERE GOING TO WITHDRAW
2,000 TROOPS FROM SYRIA, WENT
BACK TO ABOUT 1,000 TROOPS.
WE STILL HAVE 500 TROOPS EAST OF
THE EUPHRATES.
>> Harris: CAN THEY GET THE
JOB DONE?
DOES NOT IMPERIL THEM MORE?
>> WE HAVE TROOPS IN IRAQ,
PEOPLE WHO CAN DO IT.
WE HAVE TO AVOID -- WHAT WE DO
IS WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO
HOMESTEAD AND MAKE HUGE PIECES.
WE CALL IT THE SELF LICKING
ICE-CREAM CONE, IS THERE TO
SUPPORT ITSELF.
>> Harris: CAN WE CONTAIN A
GROUP OF ENEMIES THAT HAS
METASTASIZE IN 14 COUNTRIES
PREVIOUS TO THIS?
>> WE CAN, BUT IT'LL BE LIKE
NAILING JELL-O TO A WALL.
IF WE KEEP A BIG FORCE IN SYRIA
THEY WILL MOVE TO EGYPT.
THEY WILL MOVE TO SOMALIA, TO
YEMEN.
THEY WILL BE THERE.
>> Harris: WE WERE SUPPOSED TO
PROTECT THE OIL FIELDS THERE.
>> THAT'S TO KEEP FROM FUNDING
BASHAR AL-ASSAD'S REGIME AND
IRAN PAID THIS IS COMPLEX.
I COULD SPEND THE WHOLE HOUR
DISCUSSING BEST.
[LAUGHS]
>> Harris: YOU KNOW I WOULD
LIKE THAT, BECAUSE MILITARY IS
MY JAM!
>> TRYING TO KEEP TURKEY,
SEPARATE THE WEDGE BETWEEN NATO.
IT'S A VERY BUSY PLACE.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PAY
ATTENTION TO STUFF LIKE THAT
INSTEAD OF WHAT WE DOING IN
WASHINGTON.
>> Harris:
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