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%uh let me play for you are ricardo martinez the father I love
wanna the people who was murdered over this
past weekend by the so crazed gunman areas
our son Christopher Martinez and six others are dead
our pre Miley
our family has a message for every parent out there
you don't think it'll happen to your child
until it does no Chris was a really great kid
ask anyone who knew him
his death has left our family
lost and broken why did Chris
die Chris died because at Craven
irresponsible politicians and the NRA
they talk about gun rights
what about chris is right to live me know what about the right
love Americans to live in a society where you don't have to confront
somebody were and
ar-fifteen when you walk into a Starbucks well I think that
first of all a it's unfortunate that
that their parents grief is plugged into
the politics test and this is a know it's there and it's absolutely to the
to the issue Neil the politics about this politics on it that you guys
created ass
you can pass plus you what right but the sign up a millionaire
Hollywood director and photographer began to get ahold of the gun
and so those people who were shot
it ain't happening in Australia nail they had they had
18 mass slaughters in 1979 to 1998 they said enough
and they they did a national gun buyback program they they put into place
really strong regulations on guns they regulate guns actually more
I'm just calling to %uh regulate guns we were regular cars
but there they do a much more rigorous on that there has been a single mass
slaughters no
data some first of all there are certain places that you wouldn't even attempt
certain parts of this country where you don't go on a spree shooting like this
because you know someone's gonna take you down
I don't think there's anything a time a place like Colorado I mean you're
willing
you're talking about are you talking about yet Colorado a country stare
he drove hi what 607 not theaters where %uh guns were allowed
but I'm you talk about ashtray let's talk about in america
if know if there was some internet crowd who is arms
let alone a police officer or someone else somebody would have done something
you know the last time the cops went after I was trying to be a mash you
think they had to have the those but it is civilians and these were trained
police officers
well that shorter and but you know was an MP who is armed at Fort Hood who took
down the Fort Hood shooter
Dr but you know its or somebody armed in that crowd and I'm guessing that santa
barbara was I was a
there was a gun-free campus gun free zone we are we now have a la pasion
how I don't have a country country and help
crawl really Tom yeah where where the wind I don't why don't we join the rest
to the civilized world
well
first evolved under what it what is so unique about america
that we've got to have so many guns the we lead the world
in in gun deaths well
timer turkey burger has nothing to do with guns write to me at some other
murder somebody I mean impulsive murder with guns
if if you remove guns and you know there's you've seen the research in
those places where
where guns are removed suicide rates drop in half in mall and murder rates
dropped a little
little more than a third because they're their crimes have impulse
if you grab a night for a baseball bat you may do some damage to somebody
review overdose on pills you too might die
but the I if you put a gun to your temple you're gonna but you're going to
be dead
the the population of Santa Barbara and certainly that campus was disarmed
and look what happened this is not because people were disarmed neil is
because we live in a society that is awash in guns
head right this is sign up the elite who is able to get a hold of a god bless you
gonna blame it on the elite
super is seriously just saying my point is that someone is a member of the elite
is always gonna get all the time
so let's ban rich people so you're suggesting
what i'm saying is Donna sign on to know more billionaires to counter for
20 love guns is impossible
it's not happen and so uncertain because this YouTube if you're
how the police of an Australian its I don't know
not an expert on what happened and I pull up in Belgium and the Netherlands
or Sweden you well I can sparse course America
and in america you're not going to zero out the guns not your lifetime
on my lifetime bye week but it just paraphrase jack kennedy it may not
happen in your lifetime in my lifetime but we should begin
see how was your weekend well what do we begin
I want people to have gotten so they have a fighting chance in some maniac
shows up at their campus
because the incident just saying their word you know when you will be happy
giffords was shot there were two guys with guns in that in that crowd
down carrying guns and they couldn't stop a shooter because they
very easily could have killed somebody else they were they were they were baby
well trained enough that they knew
you do not fire into a crowd even if you tried it out yet
obviously this judgment there Tom but there's no obligation to be a victim and
I've said this to you before
and so it's like i I don't you call me all the statistics you want
that crazy kid shows up in his BMW and start shooting
I would rather have a done deal the should Adam I don't know why that's
outrageous to:
because he shouldn't have had the gun in the first place
yeah arafat did somebody should have a liability insurance policy on it
on then the insurance companies are going to start looking carefully or do
the writing these policies for shooting at you Tom
ish thing at you what you do you hold up your insurance policy
use a hold on this is a country of cunanan allow my point is if we regulate
guns way to regulate cars
than people who are mentally like this kid was that he was under the under
that you're gonna several the different therapists just like right now
there are some people can't get insurance for the car bus they can't
drive cuz they have
too many drunken driving in the Welsh and English this kid the for example
because this kid was always going to get a break
and that it was always going to have I a father who was gonna
form so it's back to it we're back to the elite it's it's the
its rich people's fault of special if they live in Hollywood
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