is NLP fake or real? Stay tuned. This is Damon Cart with NLP Gym. Is NLP just a
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I received an email from one of my subscribers by the name of Derek he
writes dear Damon a certain fellow by the name of Lloyd Machedo I think that's
how you pronounce his name completely destroys NLP as he claims to be a master
practitioner but peradventure you already know about him actually Derick no
I've never heard of this guy before you sent me this youtube link and he writes
here is the link of the clips he posted I would just really like to know what
you think please I'm just really perplexed well Derek I hope this video
can help clear some of that up longing Machedo is a guy who like I said
never heard of before and he has a YouTube channel he doesn't have a huge
following he seems to be very popular in the Middle East though I'm not really
sure I don't really know a whole lot about the guy and I'm not going to try
to tear him apart or anything like that that's not at all what I want to engage
in I will address though in this video the things that he claims about NLP in
this particular video it's called his NLP or neuro linguistic programming fake
or real by law in Machedo by the way if you haven't noticed that's a bed behind
me no I don't have a bookshelf behind me because I had a bookshelf behind me with
a lot of books that would make me seem more authorities so is it'll be a pseudo
science as this guy's Loy Machedo claims well let's first dig into some of the
things he said some of the things that he claims in this video he claims to
have bought every NLP book audio program and online training
NLP and claims to have spent forty to fifty thousand dollars on NLP training
more on that in a minute but that's one of his claims so keep that in mind I
understand why he brings up Tony Robbins Tony Robbins is probably the most
successful and I'll peer in existence he's an extremely successful guy about
90% of what he does or for what I've seen in Tony Robbins videos is NLP I've
never been to one of Tony Robbins trainings or workshops or seminars so
I'm not claiming to know everything about Tony Robbins or that his entire
technology is NLP I'm just saying from what I've seen in his videos and what
I've read from his books it's a lot of NLP Tony Robbins is not really my style
I don't have anything against the guy I think though that people like to
criticize him because it draws more attention to themselves I did look into
boy a little bit looked into just a little bit about who he is you know it's
obvious when you look at him he stands out he's tattooed clearly from head to
toe his whole entire face is tattooed he planes though that he tattooed himself
because he wanted to stand out and by claiming that NLP is fake and especially
criticizing or going after Tony Robbins I see a lot of people doing that because
they're wanting some attention they're saying negative things about a guy who
for many people or so idealized that he's almost a saint you can't be as
famous and as popular in the personal development field as Tony Robbins so you
might as well criticize them calling NLP a pseudoscience sets a sense of frame
for an argument that makes it so a person can't win unless you realize what
is going on here and that put someone in a position who practices NLP to then
defend NLP and say no it's not a pseudoscience if I were to say that if I
would say NLP is not a pseudoscience I invite it's polar opposite that it is a
pseudoscience and if I step further back than that
what I'm presupposing or what seto is presupposing when he says NLP is
a pseudoscience he's also presupposing that it's either
of science or that people were trying to pass off NLP as a science and quite
honestly I have never heard anyone say that NLP was or is a science I've done
many many trainings with many different trainers I live in Santa Cruz where it
was created and developed and I know some of the early developers the people
who were there at the beginning I've trained with Richard Bandler I that
render have bumped into him at the grocery store none of my conversations
or none of the trainings that have been - as have I heard and I'm not saying
it's impossible I'm not saying no one ever claimed NLP was a science I'm just
saying I've done a lot of NLP training I've done it for years and I don't hear
anyone claiming that it's a science a technology yes science no what's the
difference you could say well a technology as a scientist the science of
whatever okay depends on how you define technology Brazilian Jujitsu is a
technology it's a system of techniques Yoga is a system of techniques mixed
martial arts is a system of techniques therefore I can call it a technology NLP
is the same thing I'm not saying no one ever called NLP a science I'm sure some
people have I didn't get into NLP because I wanted to learn the science of
NLP I wanted to learn the techniques and the understandings and the mindsets of
NLP to create what I wanted and it works will it work for everyone that's another
thing that Masetto brings up it doesn't work for everyone
well not all science works for everyone either for example psychology is a
science and there are psychological models and therapeutic models and
therapeutic systems and their scientific may adhere to the theories of science
they adhere to the scientific method they certainly don't work for everyone
you can take targeted behavioral therapy or EMDR both derivatives of NLP and lt
preceded these models that are not now accepted therapeutic models and the
science of psychology but they don't work for everyone so if this is the
argument is that NLP is not scientific because it doesn't work for everyone or
it's not effective because it doesn't work for everyone
nothing works for everyone if that's the standard then nothing works as nothing
of scientific one of the things I enjoy about NLP is that it is part art it is
not all science and if you want to bring back in the therapy models talk to any
really good therapist and ask them if part of what they do is art in creation
and creativity and any good therapist will tell you yes of course they're
based and science but when they're doing therapy with someone they're not dealing
with a rat in a cage and allow they're dealing with a real human being and
things change rapidly with that person and they have many different roles to
play in different contexts they live in you have to be a bit of an artist to be
a great therapist NLP is not so much about the techniques either NLP is about
behavioral flexibility and being able to move from one technique to the next or
even create a technique on the spot because you have the skills so yes NLP
is part art and part science it's not a science but it uses science law and
Masato's claims to have read every single NLP book taken every single audio
program and done every single NLP online training and then done a lot of live
training enough to become a master practitioner and a trainer which doesn't
sound to be true when anytime someone says they've read it all they've done it
all immediately it starts to sound like bullshit but let's assume that he is
absolutely true if you notice in this video he's sitting in front of a large
bookcase with lots of books behind them unlike myself which leads one to believe
that he's read all of these books and not only has he read all these books but
he's memorized them all and he's an authority on it so let's imagine he has
let's imagine he has done everything he claims to have done
then now when stepping back and saying it doesn't work and it's useless at what
point did he realize that and if he's really smart at what point do you say
maybe this stuff isn't working maybe like $10,000 in maybe $20,000 in $30,000
in but no he spent $50,000 maybe at some point and maybe after the third NLP
books you might stop and think the stuff isn't working I want to go do something
else but now he claims to have done it all you have to ask yourself why would I
listen to this guy if he blew $50,000 and spent so much time and effort and
energy learning something and it took him that long to figure out it doesn't
work my assumption is Macedo is a fairly intelligent person he's very well-spoken
I'm sure he's read a lot of books I'm sure he's done some NLP training
NLP is not about the specific techniques and whether or not they work it takes
time to cultivate the skill it takes time to adopt the mindsets it takes time
to really be able to live and breathe through the understandings of NLP at the
same time if it's not working for you don't do it I don't I don't I don't say
that NLP works for everyone I think it's good to explore things and if they don't
work for you don't bother with them another claim he makes is don't learn
don't pay to learn NLP just learn it from the free stuff that's on the
internet or learn it from books I agree with if you're interested in NLP you
should definitely explore everything that's out there that you can get your
hands on that's free this will help you understand if NLP is right for you and
if you believe you'll get something out of a live training but here's the thing
you can probably learn gymnastics Yoga you can probably learn some pretty
interesting stuff on the internet you can watch it on YouTube and you
put it you get the information up here that doesn't mean you can do it that
doesn't mean you're going to be good at it I can learn probably learn how to fly
an airplane by watching YouTube videos that doesn't mean I'm gonna be able to
get into an airplane on my first try and take off and fly this takes practice
it also takes supervised practice it also takes a mentor it also takes
teachers coaches and it all depends on how far you want to go so is getting
free NLP training online on YouTube reading books good absolutely are you
going to become really good at it no you're not that's where the training
comes in another thing that Macedo starts talking about in regard to NLP is
fire walking and breaking boards and how that's a really a scam that is Tony
Robbins thing and sure Tony Robbins is not the only one who has done it because
there's been copycats since then but that's not an NLP thing fire walking is
not an NLP thing breaking boards is not an NLP thing in fact I tell people all
the time you can have transformation you can transform your life you can evolve
yourself without walking on fire and without
breaking boards so let's make that distinction fire walking breaking boards
that's not NLP again NOP is not a science it's not a science therefore
it's not a pseudoscience you can't call NLP a pseudoscience unless people are
trying to pass it off as a science and again I've never done that as an NLP
teacher and I can't think of a single training or a book that I've read where
they're trying to pass NLP off as a science in general it's not regarded as
a science it's more a technology and some of the techniques have been brought
into therapy brought into psychology peer reviewed tested and our part of
psychology the science of psychology even hypnosis which about a third of NLP
is based on is a an accepted therapy in psychology which in science I do yoga
and I do NLP to things that he talked about in this video and he made a
reference to what if I told you yoga will change your life
well yoga did change my life so did NLP yet
I don't believe that that means it will change everyone's life that is true for
anything nothing it can be said that will change everyone's life you choose
your disciplines you choose your practices you choose what you feel makes
your life better there are some things in this video that law says that I agree
with the thing about certification that he talks about how it's just nonsense
and it doesn't mean anything really I agree with them on that certificate
usually just means that you pay for a course it means that you may have even
attended the course it doesn't mean anything about how good you are but it's
also very that's also very similar to styles of martial arts there are many
schools of martial arts or karate that the belt system doesn't mean anything I
mean it just means that you paid for and you took a test which means you can do
certain kicks and punches it doesn't mean you're effective in a fight with
certification in that way and NLP doesn't really mean much either I know
people have many certifications and still don't know the basics in NLP so
he's correct about that another thing that Macedo talks about
that I agree with is people overcharging for NLP there are some out there who
charge way too much he talks about someone who charges $23,000 two for a
single NLP training he talks about someone else who charges 15,000 I have
never seen that I have trained with some of the best and help eaters in the world
like Robert Dilts Judith DeLozier and even Richard Bandler one of the founders
of NLP and I've never paid that much for a single training I do know though that
there are some people out there like that and I would I would stay away from
these people who are trying to overcharge if you're trying to figure
out if NLP is real or not I would say it's not a science it's part science
part art mainly it's a technology just like mixed martial arts is a technology
and how good you are at the technology is how much you embrace it how much you
enjoy it and how much you practice it and actually use it and use it
effectively with others and with yourself
they don't P work for everyone no it doesn't but what does nothing works for
everyone to summarize don't listen to this guy
about NLP about whatever else he talks about I don't know I didn't watch these
other videos and the other thing is to stay away from
people who make really bombastic claims or if they make claims that sound too
good to be true maybe be curious enough to explore don't pay a lot of money for
it though if a person can make truly outrageous claims then they should be
able to prove it or show it without charging you twenty three thousand
dollars to do it so be wary of those people I'm not saying that snake oil
doesn't exist in NLP of course it does it exists in every profession and even
even different types of science it exists in other words use NLP if it
works for you whatever works use it that's what you should do check out my
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you okay Derrick I hope that answers your question
take care everyone