Tucker Carlson once again decided
to fearmonger about immigrants on
his program.
This time though he did it with
a little sprinkle of the nonsense
replacement theory, let's watch.
>> They are not being persecuted by
any government.
And that's why they have not
applied for asylum in any of
the countries between Haiti and
the United States,
and there are many of them.
Instead these are economic migrants
they're rich enough for a free
plane ticket and a smartphone.
But they're eager for the free
health care, the education,
the housing vouchers, food stamps,
and much more that Joe Biden has
promised them if they make it to
the United States.
So of course,
they're coming from Haiti and
from the rest of the world,
you would too,
they'd be crazy not to come.
Once they get here,
the Biden ministration plans to
give them voting rights that's in
the works right now.
So the people you just saw on your
screen could very well be choosing
your president at some point down
the road.
This is a manufactured crisis.
This is an attempt to change the
demographics of the United States
in order to give permanent power to
the Democratic Party.
That's all it is,
no matter what they tell you.
>> So, this conspiracy theory about
migrants coming in and Democrats
allegedly allowing them to come in,
because, Democrats want them to
vote for Democratic candidates and
elections.
There's a lot to unpack there.
But before we get to that theory
was, I want
to mention a few things, okay.
So first of all,
the assumption that these people
have shown up without the intention
of applying for asylum.
No, they want their day in front
of a judge.
They do want to apply for asylum.
They're not allowed to because
the Biden administration
has decided to implement the same
policy that Trump did.
Title 42 that says because of
a pandemic, we're not going to
allow any asylum seekers or
any migrants into the country.
So there's that, okay.
And then also, the cell phone
argument was a curious one,
because the cell phone argument is
what conservative family
members mentioned is a gotcha.
Whenever you're having a debate
about welfare programs or social
safety net programs, it's like,
yeah, they want government aid but
they've got cell phones.
Where did Tucker Carlson get
that from?
How do you look at the imagery
the videos of those Haitian
migrants being brutalized by
Border Patrol agents?
The first thing that comes to mind
is, yeah,
they definitely got cell phones.
But Tom Carlson isn't an idiot.
He knows the truth and
he knows what he's doing.
So, let me bring you on to react to
all of that because he's just
a mean person.
>> Yeah, I think it's
important that we show the audience
the arguments being made on that
side, like you said, for
when you do interact with
the people in your lives, who might
be swayed by these arguments.
Obviously Tucker Carlson isn't
engaging in any intellectual
honesty or academic rigor when it
comes to crafting and forming.
His arguments is just hate speech
and trying to gin up a bunch
of people's worst fears about
immigrants coming in eating their
babies alive.
In their cribs the bottom line is
we don't have a welfare state here,
when he says they're going to come
and get free health care what free.
We don't have that here, right?
That doesn't exist here.
And again, it's important that we
know what type of lies are being
spewed on the other side.
There's no point in me and
you point by point, striking down
what Tucker Carlson has to say.
And what I would posit to him
about and so
that they can ensure presidencies.
Are these people going to
flood Alabama and Arkansas and
Montana and all these places where
the Republicans just window matter?
What for no reason and
there's more trees than people.
[LAUGH] They get to send two
senators to the US Senate.
I don't think so.
I don't think migrants are going to
end up in Wyoming but
I would hope that they did.
If they were allowed to come here
and it would be nice if we could
change the demographics and
some of those red states.
[LAUGH].
>> Look, it was nice.
You're telling on yourself.
I love the admission in
the argument as well, right.
Because the admission is they're
going to vote for Democrats because
we're so awful toward migrants.
We're so awful to people of color.
We're not going to change that,
we're going to keep being awful.
It's just an interesting
cell phone.
But also I wanted to just briefly
mention the whole argument about
people coming to the United States,
not because of crime in their home
countries, but
because of economic reasons.
I think in many cases,
we have a responsibility to bring
in asylum seekers based on economic
reasons, especially migrants coming
from places like Haiti.
Because of the fact that US
business interests had a huge role
played a huge role in destabilizing
that country, right.
I mean, when you look at the United
States occupied that country for
19 years starting in 1915,
based on US business interests.
And it didn't end after the US
occupation ended.
The US has very much meddled into
the governmental affairs of Haiti,
specifically on behalf of corporate
interests.
So that not only destabilizes the
country, but it secures the poverty
and the suffering of the very
people who are coming to our border
looking for safety looking for
freedom, just looking for
a chance at a better life.
And I get it like the moral
arguments aren't going to play well
to the right way.
They never will.
And I'm not really mentioning
that to try to persuade them.
But I do think that
the United States government and
its unwillingness to ever take
responsibility for what it has done
in Latin American countries,
in Middle Eastern countries,
in Caribbean countries.
The way that we've destabilized
countries all around the globe.
And it's led to a flow of migrants
to our borders as a result,
we should take responsibility for
what we did stop acting like we
have no role in this like that.
The thing that gets under my skin
the most was how does the US acts
like we're victims.
The government,
members of our media,
they act like, we're so victimized
by migrants coming to the border.
And it's like,
what are you even talking about?
Go take a good hard look at what
we've done.
It's not just Haiti I mean,
we've talked about it so
many times on this show and
I know I sound repetitive and
I apologize for people.
Who are rolling their eyes at me
being repetitive, but
it's just the truth, right?
It's the truth.
And the same thing is going to
happen with climate change.
We have played the biggest role in
polluting the planet that is
going to lead to a migrant crisis.
And then we're going to turn
around and be like, why are we
being victimized by these migrants
coming to our border.
No, we're not victims, okay?
We've done this ourselves.
We've brought this upon ourselves.
But instead of treating it as some
sort of awful thing
that we're being punished by, or
something that makes us a victim.
We should see all of the incredible
things that immigrants have
done in this country,
to enrich this country.
Right, like it's anyway, sorry.
Go ahead >> Yeah, and I think
you're getting at something very,
very, very important and that's
the government can't come out and
say yes, we screwed that thing up
royally in Haiti.
We screwed that thing up royally in
Guatemala.
We screwed that thing up royally in
Nicaragua.
You name it, country after country
where we screwed it up royally.
Because if they start tying stuff
like immigration to, or
migrants, to the actions of
say the CIA abroad, and
citizens start saying hold on.
There's consequences
to what the CIA did.
And citizens start wanting the CIA
to be held accountable.
You can't set that precedent and
and come on now.
The way the CIA operates is that,
they are wholly unaccountable to
any body, not the citizenry,
not the United States government,
obviously they're not going to hold
themselves accountable.
And so of course Joe Biden can't
come out and be like, well,
the CIA screwed that up.
We can't just leave people in
the cold, because that would need
we were holding the CIA accountable
for anything ever.
And that can't ever be the case,
obviously.
>> Can you imagine if Biden had
the kind of candid speeches that
Trump did?
because Trump had no problem
attacking various government
agencies, but
for all the wrong remarks.
>> Yeah they came after him to
where you're seeing stuff in
the New York Times about the hero
week.
Covert operatives of the CIA,
the all these cleanses Stein heroes
all of this shiny stuff and
its really guys do we really want
to romanticize The CIA.
Really?
>> Yeah.
>> The people who have been
responsible for so much freaking
Carnage around the world.
It's craziness.
>> Absolutely