IT’S JUST -- >> AND BEING ABLE TO LOOK INTO
HER EYES MAKES A LOT OF
DIFFERENCE.
DIFFERENCE. >> YOU’RE RIGHT, ABSOLUTELY.
>> THANK YOU, RACHEL.
>> THANK YOU, MY FRIEND.
>> THE QUESTION REMAINS TONIGHT,
WHERE ARE THE BABIES?
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES ORDERED THE ARREST OF
MOTHERS AND BABIES INCLUDING THE
INFANTS IN THE FIRST MONTHS OF
LIFE WHO ARE BREAST-FEEDING AND
THE PRESIDENT CANNOT ANSWER THE
QUESTION, WHERE ARE THE BABIES?
EVEN UNITED STATES SENATORS WHO
HAVE GONE LOOKING FOR THE BABIES
CAN’T FIND THEM.
NEVADA’S JUNIOR SENATOR WAS IN
TEXAS TODAY LOOKING FOR THE
BABIES AND THE GIRLS.
>> WE SEE WHAT THEY WANT US TO
SEE.
SEE. SO WE DON’T KNOW WHERE THE GIRLS
ARE, WE’VE NEVER SEEN ANY OF THE
BABIES OR YOUNG KIDS.
WE’VE SEEN BOYS IN ONE FACILITY.
IT’S OUTRAGEOUS.
IT’S OUTRAGEOUS. RED FLAGS GO UP THAT THEY’RE
TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING OR
SOMETHING THEY DON’T WANT THE
PUBLIC TO KNOW.
THAT TO ME IS OF MORE CONCERN
THAN ANYTHING I’VE SEEN SO FAR.
>> SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN HAD
A BIT MORE LUCK.
IT WAS JUST LUCK SHE MANAGED TO
SEE SOME OF THE GIRLS AND
EXACTLY ONE BABY IN McCALLEN,
TEXAS THIS WEEKEND.
>> IT’S A DISTURBING PICTURE.
THERE ARE CHILDREN BY
THEMSELVES.
THEMSELVES. I SAW A 6-MONTH-OLD BABY.
LITTLE GIRLS, LITTLE BOYS.
THEY’RE ALL ON CONCRETE FLOORS.
IN CAGES.
IN CAGES. THERE’S JUST NO OTHER WAY TO
DESCRIBE IT.
DESCRIBE IT. THEY’RE BIG CHAIN LINK CAGES ON
COLD, CONCRETE FLOORS AND METAL
BLANKETS HANDED OUT TO PEOPLE.
>> SOME PEOPLE WORKING IN THESE
FACILITIES ARE TRYING TO
SECRETLY DELIVER THE MESSAGE OF
WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THEM.
AND THE VIDEO YOU ARE ABOUT TO
SEE WAS FIRST SHOWN BY RACHEL IN
THE LAST HOUR, IT IS REPORTEDLY
FROM A FACILITY PROVIDING
DAY-TIME CARE FOR SOME OF THESE
CHILDREN IN NEW YORK CITY.
THESE ARE INCARCERATED CHILDREN.
THEY ARE NOT FREE TO LEAVE.
THIS IS NOT LIKE YOUR KID GOING
TODAY CARE.
TODAY CARE. YOU DROPPING YOUR KID OFF AT DAY
CARE.
CARE. THE SOURCE OF THE VIDEO IS
REPORTEDLY SOMEONE WHO WORKED IN
THAT FACILITY, WHO THEN QUIT
AFTER MAKING THIS RECORDING LAST
WEEK.
>>> THE EYES ARE THE WINDOW OF THE SOUL, AND IF YOU COULD SEE
THAT LITTLE GIRL’S EYES LIKE WE
WERE ABLE TO BEFORE THE VIDEO
WAS BLURRED, YOU WOULD SEE THE
TEARS, YOU WOULD SEE THE PAIN.
YOU WOULD SEE MUCH MORE OF WHO
THAT LITTLE GIRL IS.
THAT LITTLE GIRL JESSICA IS
ANOTHER VOICE WE HAVE HEARD
INSIDE THE TRUMP JAILS HOLDING
CHILDREN.
CHILDREN. WE HAVE HEARD ANOTHER VOICE
INSIDE THE TRUMP CAGES THIS
WEEKEND WHEN "THE WASHINGTON
POST" RELEASED THE TAPE OF A
PHONE CALL THAT A 6-YEAR-OLD
GIRL IN THE UNITED STATES WAS
ALLOWED TO MAKE TO HER FATHER IN
HIS VILLAGE IN EL SALVADOR.
IT WAS A PHONE CALL THAT WAS
RECORDED, YOU CAN LISTEN TO IT
IN ITS ENTIRETY AT "THE
WASHINGTON POST" WEBSITE.
HERE IS THE MOMENT WHEN SHE
ASKED HER FATHER, WHO SHE HAS
NOT SEEN SINCE THEY WERE
SEPARATED AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER
WHEN HE WAS COMING TO GET HER.
UP TO THIS POINT THEIR
CONVERSATION HAD A NORMAL
RHYTHMLE OF QUESTION AND ANSWER.
THEN CAME A VERY PAINFUL AND
LONG SILENCE AS HER FATHER TRIED
TO THINK OF THE RIGHT THING TO
SAY TO HIS DAUGHTER WHEN SHE
ASKED THAT VERY SIMPLE QUESTION,
WHEN ARE YOU COMING TO GET ME,
DADDY?
>>> THEY HAVE TO FIX THE AIRPLANE.
AIRPLANE. THAT WAS THE BEST HE COULD DO.
THEN HE QUICKLY CHANGED THE
SUBJECT.
SUBJECT. THIS WEEKEND, THE PRESIDENT, WHO
HAS ARRESTED OVER 3,000 CHILDREN
AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER PLAYED
GOLF AT A TRUMP GOLF COURSE AS
HE DOES MOST WEEKENDS.
AND HE DID NOT SPEND ONE MINUTE
LOOKING FOR THE BABIES.
NOT ONE MINUTE.
WHICH IS MY RESPONSE TO EVERYONE
ONE OF HIS TWEETS NOW THAT HAVE
NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS JOB AS
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
IS, HAVE YOU FOUND THE BABIES
YET?
YET? JOINING US NOW FROM EL PASO,
TEXAS JOY REED HOST OF ""A.M.
JOY"" AND CAL PERRY, GLOBAL NEWS
E
E EDITOR AND PETER SHEA IS BACK
WITH US.
WITH US. JOY, YOU AND CAL MANAGED TO GET
INSIDE ONE OF THESE TENT
FACILITIES THAT THEY HAVE ON A
MILITARY BASE DOWN THERE TODAY.
WHAT DID YOU SEE?
>> WELL, WE TOOK A TOUR, THERE
WERE 23 REPORTERS IN TOTAL, WE
WERE WALKED THROUGH THIS
FACILITY.
FACILITY. IT’S A MILITARY CAMP.
THERE’S SORT OF NO BETTER WAY TO
DESCRIBE IT.
DESCRIBE IT. THERE ARE VARIOUS TENTS WHERE
THE CHILDREN DO STRUCTURED
ACTIVITIES.
ACTIVITIES. WE SAW KIDS LINING UP TO GO IN
AND USE THE PHONE ROOM.
THEY’RE ALLOWED TWO TEN MINUTE
PHONE CALLS A WEEK THAT ARE
MONITORED CLOSELY BY A STAFF
MEMBER.
MEMBER. THERE’S A SHOWERING TENT.
THERE’S LIKE A MESS TENT.
IT’S ALL MILITARY.
IT LOOKS LIKE ANY SORT OF
MILITARY CAMP YOU MIGHT SEE.
WE WERE ABLE TO SEE ONE SLEEPING
TENT, LAWRENCE, FOR SOME OF THE
BOYS WHICH HAD FIVE ROWS OF
BUNKS ON EITHER SIDE NEATLY MADE
WITH A BLUE BLANKET AND A
PILLOW.
PILLOW. THERE WAS A TABLE WHERE I SAW
SOME BOOKS.
SOME BOOKS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK
ME, THERE WERE CRAYON DRAWINGS
ON THE WALLS OF THIS PARTICULAR
BUNK, CHILDREN, IT’S NOT CLEAR
WHO DREW THEM, SOME WERE IN
ENGLISH, SOME IN SPANISH.
THERE WAS ONE THAT STRUCK ME IT
WAS DRAWN IN CRAYON AND IN
SPANISH IT SAID DON’T BE AFRAID.
AND WE HAVE HEARD YOUR VOICE.
AND BELOW IT GENESIS 27:15.
IT’S A STORY ABOUT THE EGYPTIAN
SLAVE THAT WAS GIVEN TO ABRAHAM
AND MADE TO BEAR A CHILD FOR HIM
AND HIS BARREN WIFE.
THAT BIBLE VERSE WAS ON A WALL.
THERE WAS ANOTHER SIGN IN
ENGLISH IN THE CRAYON ON THE
WALL THAT SAID IF YOU WORK HARD
GOOD THINGS WILL HAPPEN.
THE LAST THING I’LL SAY BEFORE I
GO BACK TO YOU, WHAT STRUCK ME
AS A MOM, A PARENT, WE WERE
ALLOWED TO SEE THE CHILDREN, WE
WEREN’T ALLOWED TO TALK TO THEM.
WE COULD SAY HI, WE WERE
ENCOURAGED TO SMILE AT THEM.
WE WERE TOLD THEY WERE MADE
NERVOUS WHEN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
CAME THROUGH.
CAME THROUGH. WE COULD SAY HI TO THEM, HOW’S
THE FOOD, AND THAT’S IT.
BUT TALKING TO THE BOYS, WHO
WERE 13 TO 17, SOME WERE REALLY
SMALL BUT 13 TO 17 AGE BOYS ARE
A CERTAIN TYPE OF KID, THEY’RE
BOYS, NOT VERY VERBALLY
NECESSARILY, SOME MORE WILLING
TO TALK AND SMILE BACK.
SOME LOOKED REALLY DISTANT.
WHAT THAT WORKER WAS ABLE TO DO
TO TALK TO JESSICA IS WHAT I
WANTED TO DO.
AS A MOM YOU WANTED TO ASK THEM
QUESTIONS, HOW ARE YOU?
WHERE’S YOUR MOM?
WHEN’S THE LAST TIME YOU SAW
HER?
HER? IT WAS HARD NOT ASKING THE
QUESTIONS BUT WE DIDN’T WANT THE
TOUR CUT SHOT.
>> CAL PERRY, I WANT YOUR
OBSERVATIONS OF THAT VISIT?
>> IT LOOKED LIKE AN OPERATING
BASE YOU WOULD SEE IN IRAQ.
ALTHOUGH WE WERE TOLD IF THESE
KIDS WERE TO RUN FROM THE CAMP
THEY WOULD BE PURSUED.
I THOUGHT, LIKE JOY SAID, ALL OF
THE THINGS YOU SEE IN YOUR OWN
HOUSE WITH YOUR OWN KIDS ARE
MAGPY NIGHED WHEN YOU SEE THESE
KIDS WALKED FROM TENTS LABELED
ALPHA ONE TO ALPHA TWO, THE
ORDERS OF THE DAY ARE GIVEN IN A
SCHEDULE IN A VERY MILITARIZED
ZONE.
ZONE. IT’S ALL THE THINGS YOU SEE IN
YOUR OWN KID.
THAT AGE, 13 TO 17-YEAR-OLD
BOYS, THEY’RE DEVELOPING
DIFFERENTLY.
DIFFERENTLY. SO YOU HAVE KIDS THAT ARE
DIFFERENT SIZES FROM EACH OTHER.
I WAS STRUCK BY SEEING THE
GIRLS, WE WEREN’T ABLE TO GO
INTO THE GIRLS’ TENT BUT
INDIVIDUALLY TWO GIRLS CAME OUT.
AND AGAIN, THIS LOOK OF SHELL
SHOCK.
SHOCK. THIS LOOK LIKE THEY WERE NO
LONGER BLINKING AND YOU LOOK AT
THEM AND THOUGHT WHAT DID THEY
GO THROUGH WALKING HERE AND NOW
WHAT ARE THEY GOING THROUGH IN
THIS MILITARY FACILITY?
ONE OF THE DRAWINGS THAT STRUCK
ME WAS ONE FROM THIS GIRL WHO
SAID SHE WALKED ALL THE WAY FROM
HONDURAS
HONDURAS HONDURAS.
HONDURAS. I THINK THE OTHER THING I WAS
STRUCK BY, I THINK THE U.S.
GOVERNMENT IS DISAPPEARING KIDS,
THEY’RE DOING IT IN THE MIDDLE
OF THE NIGHT.
I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION IS
GOING TO SEE THIS VIDEO WE
PLAYED OUT AND THEY’RE GOING TO
MOVE THE KIDS TO A MILITARY BASE
AND BECOME MILITARY DETAINEES,
THESE CHILDREN AND WE’RE GOING
TO LOSE COMPLETE ACCESS AND
WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO RELY ON
WHISTLE BLOWERS WHO KNOW NOW IS
THE TIME TO STAND UP AND BE
COUNTED.
COUNTED. >> CAN I SAY QUICKLY, THESE KIDS
HAD ALREADY BEEN MOVED.
THESE WERE NOT KIDS DETAINED AT
THE BORDER AND BROUGHT TO THIS
FACILITY THAT WAS JUST STOOD UP.
THE SOCCER FIELD WAS BRAND NEW
SOD THEY LAID.
IT HAS A 30 DAY MANDATE IT’S
SUPPOSED TO SHUT DOWN JULY 13th
WE DIDN’T GET AN ANSWER WHERE
THE KIDS WERE TO GO AFTER THAT.
BUT THESE WERE KIDS SCATTERED
AROUND THE COUNTRY IN ONE OF
THESE 100 FACILITIES IN 17
STATES.
STATES. AND WHEN A BABY HAD TO BE MOVED
IN OR A TODDLER OR LITTLE KID
AND THE FACILITY UNDER THE TENT
WAS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A LITTLE
KID THEY HAD TO GIVE UP THEIR
BED AND BE MOVED FROM WHEREVER
THEY WERE IN THE COUNTRY TO THAT
FACILITY.
FACILITY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS CONFOUNDING
TO ME WAS HOW WE COULD HAVE BEEN
TOLD THEY KNOW -- HHS KNOWS
WHERE ALL THE KIDS ARE, THESE
ARE KIDS THAT HAVE BEEN MOVED AT
LEAST ONCE.
LEAST ONCE. THEY ARE BEING MOVED AROUND THE
COUNTRY AND WOUND UP IN THAT
CAMP.
CAMP. >> THESE KIDS HAVE VERY LITTLE
BELONGINGS AND THEY’RE SO AWARE
OF HOW THEY’RE MOVED AROUND
THEY’RE LEAVING BEHIND THE
BELONGINGS THEY HAVE FOR THE
NEXT KID THAT COMES TO THE CAMP.
>> WHAT DO WE CALL THESE PLACES?
SOME OF THE PLACES WE LOOK AT,
WE’VE BEEN SHOWN PICTURES
CONTROLLED BY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AND SUBMITTED
PUBLICALLY BY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHEN THEY WERE
TAKEN, WE DON’T KNOW WHAT YEAR
THEY WERE TAKEN NECESSARILY IN
SOME CASES.
SOME CASES. BUT PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING WITH
WHAT TO CALL THESE PLACES.
I’VE HEARD PEOPLE CALL THEM
JAILS, I HAVE CALLED THEM JAILS
BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE SEEN HAS
MOST RESEMBLED WHAT I’VE SEEN AS
JAILS.
JAILS. TEMPORARY INCARCERATION.
TEMPORARY INCARCERATION. THEY ARE ALL INCARCERATED IN
THAT THEY ARE HELD AGAINST THEIR
WILL AND THEY ARE NOT FREE TO
LEAVE.
LEAVE. THAT IS TRUE NO MATTER WHERE
THEY ARE IN THE COURSE OF THIS
PROCESS.
PROCESS. I’VE HEARD JONATHAN CALL THEM
TRUMP’S CAGES.
TRUMP’S CAGES. WHAT SHOULD WE CALL THESE
PLACES?
PLACES? WHEN I HEAR DETENTION.
I REMEMBER HIGH SCHOOL WHEN I
WAS SENT TO DETENTION WHICH
MEANT I HAD TO STAY LATE THAT
DAY BEFORE I WAS THEN FREE TO
LEAVE.
LEAVE. I DON’T THINK WE FOUND THE
LANGUAGE FOR WHAT WE’RE LOOKING
AT.
AT. >> I THINK AMERICAN HISTORY GAVE
US THE LANGUAGE, WHICH IS
INTERMENT CAMP.
INTERMENT CAMP. THESE ARE MILITARY STYLE CAMPS.
THEY’RE NOT RUN AT THE MOMENT BY
THE MILITARY BUT THEY WILL BE
INTERMENT CAMPS BY THE MILITARY
WHEN THEY OPEN THE FACILITIES
FOR THE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN.
WHAT CAL AND I WALKED INTO TODAY
WAS A MILITARY-STYLE CAMP BUT
IT’S RUN BY A NONPROFIT.
A COMPANY THAT BID OR WAS
AWARDED A CONTRACT TO RUN THIS
FACILITY FOR THE HHS DEPARTMENT
BUT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY LITERALLY NEXT
DOOR.
DOOR. SO IF A KID WERE TO TRY TO RUN,
THEY WOULDN’T GET AWAY, THEY
WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
DESERT.
DESERT. THERE WAS A SIGN THAT SAID BE
AWARE OF RATTLESNAKES.
WE WERE TOLD THE AVERAGE 57
DAYS.
DAYS. WHY DOES IT TAKE 57 DAYS TO FIND
THEIR FAMILY AND GIVE THEM BACK?
>> CAL PERRY, QUICKLY, WITH YOUR
EXPERIENCE AROUND THE WORLD,
WHAT WOULD YOU CALL THESE
FACILITIES?
FACILITIES? >> INTERMENT CAMPS OR BLACK
SIGHTS.
SIGHTS. I VISITED SOME OF THOSE SITES IN
BAGHDAD WHERE WE HELD SOME OF
THE BIGGEST TERRORISTS IN IRAQS.
THE BIGGEST THING IS YOU’RE
PUTTING SOMEONE IN A CAMP AND
NOT ALLOWING THEM TO LOOK
OUTSIDE BUT ALLOWING PEOPLE TO
LOOK INSIDE.
LOOK INSIDE. WHEN WE WERE IN THE EMERGENCY
OPERATION TRAILER, THE CAMERAS