A new book titled Too Famous by
Michael Wolff reports that Steve
Bannon gave sex offender Jeffrey
Epstein hours of media training
prior to a 60 Minutes interview
that didn't end up happening.
Now, this was written about by
Ben Smith in the New York Times,
and I'll give you those details in
a second, but Bannon apparently
visited Epstein back in 2019 months
before his arrest on charges
related to federal sex trafficking.
The pair met at
Epstein's Upper East Side mansion,
ahead of a 60 Minutes interview
that never ended up happening and
the pair practiced for
the interview with a camera.
Now I'm going to give you Bannon's
statement in response to all of
this in just a second, but
I do think it's important to get
into the nitty gritty,
give you what the details are.
Bannon is both conducting
the interview and coaching Epstein
on the little things,
Ben Smith writes,
telling him he will come across as
stupid if he doesn't look directly
into the camera now and then.
And advising him not to share his
racist theories on how black
people learn.
Mainly, Bannon tells Epstein, he
should stick to his message, which
is that he is not a pedophile.
>> [LAUGH] I mean, look,
this is such a serious story but
look at this like a viper's nest of
awful people.
Now look, Jeff,
we're all racist here, but
It doesn't play well in America.
So let's stick to not being
a pedophile even though you're
obviously a pedophile.
[LAUGH] I mean,
do I need to say anything more?
I mean and the right
wing looks at that and
goes, A, child molestation and
child sex trafficking is horrible.
B, those are my boys.
What, what?
And why do you think
the Republicans are constantly
charging Democrats with child
molestation and in participating in
the child sex trafficker rings?
Projection, it's in their head
all the time.
So they go, well,
if we're doing it,
we assume they must be doing it.
So hey, Bannon's buddies with
Jeffrey Epstein and goes and
helps him do media manipulation
like he did it for Trump.
And so he thinks, well, if we're
all having, we're doing whatever
you're doing with kids, I guess
the Democrats must be doing it too.
Let's blame people like, come on,
Luca here, show them the picture.
There's another guy who seemed to
be giving Jeffrey Epstein advice.
And it was a guy that
Bannon used to work for.
Look at that, hanging out with
Epstein all the time.
By the way, that's
Ghislaine Maxwell, who's now in
prison who helped Jeffrey Epstein
procure the women or the children
actually, for his crimes.
And Donald Trump wished her well
twice after she'd been arrested.
>> After she had been arrested.
I wish her well he said in a press
conference before the American
people, but who cares right?
I mean look,
child sex trafficking for these
Qanon conspiracy theorists is only
a serious issue if they can use it
against their political opponents.
If it has to do with people they
agree with politically, well,
then it just becomes a little
inconvenient.
>> Yeah, so,
we've talked about how terrible it
was that a lot of powerful people
that went on Epstein's Island,
plane, including Bill Clinton.
They on the other end will be like,
yeah, you're right,
Bill Clinton, terrible.
Trump, no, Trump was just like
chastising him or Trump, I mean,
every time we have pictures.
By the way,
there are multiple pictures of them
arm and arm partying together, etc.
There's another one,
it goes on and on.
No, no, no, no, no,
Trump was yelling at him, really,
do they look like they're
yelling at each other?
They look like they're
really good friends.
>> That was at a party where
they're both watching women
dancing.
>> And they're leering at them and
pointing, Trump even said,
everybody knows Jeffrey likes
them young.
He knew that he was with children.
And he talked about how they would
come over to Epstein's pool.
Trump knew for a fact.
And they're like,
it doesn't matter.
As long as he's a Republican,
we don't care.
Do anything you want to kids,
go help Jeffrey Epstein,
the worst monster child
sex trafficker in American history.
That's all okay.
As long as my guys like Bannon and
Trump, you guys have never meant
a goddamn thing.
All you want to do is just tear
people down, tear down the left,
and you use all of these incredibly
serious issues as just talking
points and propaganda.
It's really disgusting.
>> It is. >> And so here's this
disgusting, I could go on and on it
with adjectives about Steve Bannon,
I'll pull some back.
But this slovenly mess of
a man going to, Jeffrey,
how can I help you make you look
better about your pedophilia?
And now of course he's going to
have a lot of BS excuses.
No, I was trying to expose and
get them out of here.
Then why didn't you expose him when
he was arrested?
To the authorities,
did you turn in the information
you had to those authorities?
No, no, no, no.
Yeah, all of a sudden when you're
caught with your hand in
the pedophile jar, all of a sudden,
my god Jeffrey Epstein.
I was just getting him on tape.
No, you weren't you monster.
>> So, Ben Smith also writes in
the New York Times of Wolff's book
and the portion of the book that
refers to all of this.
By the end,
Bannon seemed impressed.
You're engaging,
you're not threatening,
you're natural, you're friendly,
you don't look at all creepy,
you're a sympathetic figure,
Bannon says.
>> Yeah, the worst child sex
trafficker in history
in this country.
He looks sympathetic.
You don't look like a creep at all.
We did a great job.
We'll be able to lie really
effectively to the American people,
we'll trick them into thinking that
you didn't have sex with
all those children.
Well, we all know you did.
Have I helped you enough,
Bannon asks?
And every Republican goes,
I don't care, I don't care.
They want to molest children,
they're on my team.
I love them, I love Bannon and
Trump, who cares?
Who cares about the kids?
I think the Democrats did it, what,
do you have any evidence to that?
We have overwhelming evidence of
this, no I don't have any
evidence to that.
But some random on Facebook told
me, some random on 4chan told me if
that still exists.
>> I'm pretty sure it does.
But look, Ben Smith wanted to check
up on this.
So he hits up Bannon and
he's like, yo, bro.
I mean, this is what Wolff is
writing about.
Any statement, do you
want to confirm this happened?
And Bannon did confirm that they
met and that there was 15 hours of
footage with Epstein.
However Bannon disputed Wolff's
characterization of the transcript.
Bannon said that he never
media-trained anyone and
was recording the interview for
a previously unannounced,
and never released by the way,
eight to ten hour documentary meant
to illustrate how Epstein's
perversions and depravity toward
young women were part of his life.
And that was systematically
supported, encouraged and rewarded,
get this, by the global
establishment that dined off his
money and his influence.
That's interesting,
are you referring to people like
Donald Trump?
And what happened to that
documentary?
What happened to it?
>> That was because Bannon helped.
I mean, got Epstein on tape.
By the way, let's note here guys.
Epstein agreed to have Bannon tape
him, why?
You think they would do that
if they were enemies?
Imagine if actual journalists like
Ryan Grim from The Intercept says
to Jeffrey Epstein, hey,
I'd like to come and tape you for
10, 15 hours, what do you think?
[LAUGH] Jeffrey Epstein would be
like, hell, no, I don't want to
talk to you for 10 to 15 seconds,
let alone 10 to 15 hours.
Bannon on the other hand is buddies
with him, so
he's like, you're going to help me?
Sure, yeah, I mean, here's a guy
who knows he's being accused of
the worst crimes you could imagine.
And he lets this Bannon into his
house for 10, 15 hours, and
puts himself on tape with possibly
incriminating evidence, why?
Because he trusts Bannon 100%
because they're really good
friends.
And apparently they must have been
for a long time to build
up that kind of trust.
And so now Bannon who never
released any such documentary,
had years and years to do it,
never turned it over to the police.
I mean, that is incredible evidence
that you withheld from the police?
Well, that's an interesting
question that police should ask him
about, hey,
why did you withhold that evidence
about that child sex trafficker?
>> Yeah. >> We got
Ghislaine Maxwell in jail right
now, we can use it against her.
Give me the goddamn tapes, not me.
Give it to the cops.
Why don't you work with a I thought
you believed in law and order?
Blue Lives Matter and all that
stuff, no, you're withholding that
evidence because you want to help
your friend, the child molester.
>> The child rapist.
And let's be clear
about something, okay?
It's not Bannon's fault.
It's the global cabal.
Like the fact that he
used that excuse as part
of his response to Ben Smith.
It's one talking point,
one trick pony.
And what's incredibly frustrating
is that Americans eat it up.
All these people need to do,
is spew hollow empty talking points
about the elites without ever
getting very specific about it.
People are like, yeah,
it's the elites, it's the elites.
Go on, [LAUGH] what do you think
Steve Bannon is?
You think Steve Bannon is like
living in a tent on a sidewalk in
Los Angeles?
Anyway.
>> Ann, one last thing.
So you used a great point,
who is the one major
elite that Bannon knows?
>> Homeboy's working for
the Chinese government as we speak.
>> Yeah, by the way,
he knows a Chinese billionaire.
That's another elite,
that's a good point.
But the one he's most famous for,
his so called real estate mogul
billionaire who became president.
[LAUGH] That would be
the definition of elite and that's
the one Bannon knows the best.
And if you were planning to spring
a trap on these global elite who
were buddies with Epstein, well,
do you have that information?
Do you have it on these folks, and
you're not telling us?
Guys again, if you're a right
winger, why don't you ask Bannon
these questions?
Hey, brother,
do you have evidence and all these
guys because you said you got it.
You were working with Epstein to
expose the global elites.
So where's the goddamn
evidence, Steve?
Where is it?
And who are you going to expose?
And why have you been hiding it for
year after year after year?
Why are you hiding it?
No, don't get caught and
then go, I was going to get him.
I mean on tape,
it looks like I'm helping him.
And I'm telling him how sympathetic
he is, but I was going to get him
much later many many many
years after he's already dead and
mate what after his co conspirator
gets acquitted, when were you
going to expose him Steve?
What a monstrous liar.