>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY!
WE'RE HERE WITH CHRIS HAYES FROM "ALL IN WITH CHRIS HAYES."
LET'S GET BACK TO THE HEARINGS.
THE COMMITTEE FOCUSED TODAY ON THE 187 MINUTES OF THE FORMER
PRESIDENT'S INACTION.
NOW THAT WE HAVE A FULLER PICTURE OF WHAT HE WAS OR WAS
NOT DOING THAT DAY, HOW DOES THAT CHANGE THE STORY?
>> WELL, I THINK -- I MEAN, IN SOME WAYS, I THINK SAYING HE
DIDN'T ACT UNDERSELLS A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THERE IS ONE
EXTREMELY CRUCIAL ACTION IN THAT PERIOD, WHICH IS THAT HE SENDS
OUT A TWEET, SICCING THE CROWD ON MIKE PENCE, WHO IS IN THE
BUILDING THAT THEY ARE OVERRUNNING.
AND I THINK THAT BOTH WHAT WE SAW TODAY AND WHAT WE LEARNED
TODAY AND WHAT WE LEARNED FROM ALL OF THE TESTIMONY AND
EVIDENCE THEY HAVE INTRODUCED IS THAT THAT TWEET LOOKS WORSE AND
WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE WITH EVERY NEW FACT WE LEARNED.
IT IS HARDER AND HARDER NOT TO THINK THAT THE PRESIDENT, IN A
FIT OF RAGE, WAS ATTEMPTING TO HAVE THE MOB REMOVE MIKE PENCE
FROM HIS ABOUT TO DO HIS CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY.
>> Stephen: EVERY OTHER GAMBIT HAD FAILED.
>> YES.
>> Stephen: ALL YOU CAN DO, IN THIS CASE, QUITE LITERALLY, IS
BURN IT DOWN.
>> THAT COMBINED WITH THE FACT HE'S CALLING U.S. SENATORS.
>> Stephen: BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHO YET.
>> WE DON'T KNOW.
I HOPE WE FIND OUT.
>> Stephen: OTHER THAN TOMMY TUBBERFIELD.
>> WHO IS ON THE PHONE WITH THE PRESIDENT.
WE'VE GOT TO GET OUT OF HERE, I THINK THEY'RE EVACUATING US,
MR. PRESIDENT.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS LATER.
( LAUGHTER ) HE'S STILL IN THERE AND STILL
WANTS THIS COUP TO HAPPEN.
ANOTHER FACT WE LEARNED TONIGHT THAT'S INCREDIBLY INCRIMINATING
WAS THE WHITE HOUSE PHOTOGRAPHER WHO TAKES PICTURES OF EVERYTHING
ALL THE WANTS TO GO IN THERE BECAUSE SHE DOCUMENTS EVERY
MOMENT IS SHUT DOWN.
HE'S THERE WITH HIS CELL PHONE, CALLING U.S. SENATORS.
AT THAT POINT, YOU HAVE TO CONCLUDE, AND I SAID THIS
BEFORE, HE IS, A, WATCHING THE COVERAGE THE WAY THE OWNER OF A
BASKETBALL TEAM IN THE FRONT ROW ROOTS ON THEIR TEAM.
( APPLAUSE ) HE'S SITTING THERE LIKE HE'S A
SPECTATOR.
>> Stephen: LET'S TALK ABOUT ONE OF HIS TOP DRAFT PICKS, JOSH
HAWLEY.
( LAUGHTER ) THERE'S A REALLY LOVELY MOMENT.
THERE'S A REALLY LOVELY MOMENT WHERE THEY SHOW HIM RUNNING.
WHY DO YOU THINK THEY DID THAT?
WHAT WAS THE VALUE OF SHOWING JOSH HAWLEY SKEDADDLING?
( LAUGHTER ) >> THE VALUE WAS THE COMMITTEE
TELLING JOSH HAWLEY TO GO F HIMSELF.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ( LAUGHTER )
>> I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PROBATIVE
VALUE IN THE PRESENTATION.
>> Stephen: NO, IT'S A LITTLE OFF-ROAD.
>> WELL, IT'S A LITTLE OFF-ROAD, BUT IT'S ALSO, LIKE, YOU WENT
OUT THERE THAT DAY -- I THINK THE MESSAGE THERE, AGAIN, I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO SEE THEY WERE RUNNING BECAUSE
THEY WERE SCARED AND BEING EVACUATED, BUT YOU WENT UP THERE
THAT DAY TO GO THROW YOUR FIST UP AND PLAY WITH FIRE, AND
EVERYONE GOT TO SEE YOU DO THAT AND SEE YOU FUND RAISE AFTER IT
AND SEE HOW YOU TALK ABOUT HOW YOU OWN THE LIBS, BUT NOT SEE
YOU WITH YOUR TAIL BETWEEN YOUR LEGS WHEN THE MOB IS ABOUT TO
KNOCK DOWN YOUR DOOR.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: YOU HAVE BEEN
REPORTING ON POLITICS FOR 20 YEARS.
THIS IS THE EIGHTH HEARING, NINTH HEARING TONIGHT?
>> EIGHTH.
>> Stephen: EIGHTH HEARING TONIGHT?
WHAT MOST HAS SURPRISED YOU?
ANYTHING SURPRISED YOU MOST ABOUT THE LAST EIGHT HEARINGS?
>> WELL I THINK THE SHEER AMOUNT OF NEW INFORMATION THEY HAVE
UNCOVERED IS GENUINELY REMARKABLE.
>> Stephen: HOW THEY'VE GIVEN IT TO US.
>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
IT IS AS A TELEVISION PRACTITIONER.
>> Stephen: YEAH.
IT HAS BEEN A TOUR DEFORCE OF PRODUCTION.
>> Stephen: I THINK IT'S GOING TO CHANGE HOW ANY CONGRESSIONAL
HEARING IS HELD TO A STANDARD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE CIRCUS
THAT USUALLY HAPPENS IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE SEEN AS
ENTERTAINMENT.
THIS IS ACTUALLY INFORMATIVE AND INTERESTING
( APPLAUSE ) >> YES.
AND I AGREE.
BUT THE NECESSARY PRE-CONDITION FOR THAT IS YOU HAVE A UNANIMITY
OF PURPOSE AMONG THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE ACROSS PARTY LINES
TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT HAPPENED AND TO PRESENT THEIR
CASE TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.
THAT IS USUALLY NOT THE CASE -- >> Stephen: RIGHT.
IF JIM JORDAN WERE UP THERE IN HIS SHIRT SLEEVES AND
EVERYTHING IS BROKEN DOWN IN MAJORITY TIME, MINORITY TIME,
RESPONSE, REBUTTAL, YOU CAN'T DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
>> Stephen: I THINK THAT'S PROOF KEVIN McCARTHY DOES NOT
DESERVE TO BE SPEAKER WAS HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND POLITICS WELL
ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT HIS OWN GAME WAS.
WE HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER BREAK.
BACK WITH MORE CHRIS HAYES, EVERYBODY.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ( BAND PLAYING )