Make a wish!
We got ready for bed, my mum came in saying that there was
a burning smell.
We did not think much of it.
We couldn't see the fire, at all.
But then, we saw our neighbours from downstairs running
upwards looking worried, banging on the doors and telling everybody to
get out.
When we asked them what was going on, they said that there was a
fire and there was no way out.
While we were in the flat, we were on the
phone to other neighbours who had made it out of the building, or my
school friends who were living around the tower.
They were right next to the Fire Brigade.
I was asking them what the Fire brigade
were telling us to do.
They were telling us that they were on their
way up, and that they would get us soon.
Stay in the flat.
35 or 40 people came up and they said, the
Fire Brigade told us that you have to go up.
We will send a helicopter for you, for rescue.
There were helicopters up, I do not know how
many.
Definitely more than one.
But honestly?
I do not think the Fire Brigade instructed anyone to go out
to the roof.
These people that came up to your floor...
You know, before you left, you talked about 35 or 40
people?
Yes.
What happened to them?
I don't know, that's my question.
Where are they now?
They are all missing.
Or dead.
I mean, the four people that came into our flat,
they've all passed away.
At what point did you decide, I think it was
you more than anybody in that flat, that you had to get out and go down?
The fire had broken the windows of our flat and come into the bedroom.
My mum had said "I don't want to go through the pain of burning alive,
I'm going to jump out the window".
I said we had to at least try and get
out.
We thought we were dead, 100% dead that night.
I grabbed my mum and because there was so much smoke
I did not let go of her.
I knew if I let go, I wouldn't be able to find
her again.
We started feeling our way...
And she could not walk very easily, because she had a medical
problem before?
I knew that it would be difficult for her to go
downstairs especially.
So you had her around your shoulders?
I was carrying her rebuffed my shoulders.
Did you try and persuade your dad to come too?
He was actually very calming the situation.
He's not thinking that he's dying or he's
burning.
He was just looking out of the window.
He is not fighting it.
No?
I called him so many times.
He did not say that he was staying?
I think he was trying to help the
other neighbours who had come into the flat, the four ladies, to help
them get out as well.
He was always the sort of person who would try to
help other people before himself.
The smoke became so thick we couldn't see each other after.
Once we got to the staircase, we were
shouting his name to see if he was behind.
When I told my mum we had to go out, I told my dad too.
I shouted to everyone that we had to get out.
We assumed that my dad was behind us.
Farhad did not allow me to go back.
There was no way we could go back.
We wouldn't have been able to breathe.
It's very difficult.
He took me, and hugged me.
Every staircase, he was telling me mum,
there are the stairs, be careful.
We were stepping on people, and she was
asking me "What are we stepping on?"
I did not want to scare her so I told her it was the Fire Brigade's
hoses.
But when I heard the sound of difficult breathing, I was feeling
that there was someone there.
I turned on my phone night, and I saw
there were too many people who had fallen down.
Most of them died, or nearly died.
I think there was about two or three bodies that I remember
stepping on.
I'm sure there was more.
More, more.
I saw.
But what is amazing is you got to a level where
you were in very bad shape.
You were gossiping.
And there was thick smoke, everywhere.
-- keyword gar Spain.
Suddenly, a miracle?
We realised we could not make it down.
I took my mum back up and we saw an air pocket.
You gulp to air in?
We were getting fresh air.
Then?
We started running down again.
I guess it was about the seventh or eighth
floor.
I could hear the mask of the Fire Brigade, breathing heavily.
I just knew.
Even though I could not see, I knew that the Fire Brigade
were there.
I stuck out my hand, I was feeling my way.
I just happened to touch one of their chests.
As soon as I touched his chest, I
grabbed him and pulled him towards me.
I told him that there were two of us from the 23rd floor.
I was shouting, and I was telling them I
could not go any more.
I could not breathe.
They said, you can.
You have to go.
I went, down some of the stairs around.
After that, I did not know.
You lost consciousness?
When we got outside, my mum regained
consciousness.
He was crying, and looking for his dad.
He was saying "My dad is still up there, please
help him".
Everybody that they would take out, I would go and look to see
if it was my dad.
But none of them were.
But you were both put into an induced coma?
For how long?
About one week.
Yeah, one week.
I was in one for two days.
When did you discover what had happened to Saber,
your husband, your father?
When I got out of the coma, I was asking
for him quite a lot.
At this point, we had no idea.
Nobody knew where he was.
I basically had to discharge myself to go to see my mum and to
try to find my dad at that point.
Once they gave me news that they had identified my dad, I told my mum
that this was what had happened.
And you know how he died?
They said that his injuries are consistent with a
fall from a height.
But they do not think he jumped from the 23rd floor.
They are saying he came down to one of the lower floors and jumped from
there.
But it is something which we will never find out, where he jumped
from.
They said the people who jumped, they were suicide, not...
I don't know who talked about this.
You loved your husband, very much.
Yeah.
Do you think you can make a new future?
Can you make a life?
Do you feel you are beginning to go
forwards?
I can't say, how can I spend my life without him?
The only thing I make myself stronger because
of Farhad.
I don't want to leave him.
Umm...
And you, Farhad?
It won't ever be the same without him.
When I'm going outside, it is more than difficult, staying at home.
Everywhere I go, I remember him.
Maybe he is coming out of a small street, with his car...
A similar car, when I see, I'm looking.
And I see that he's not inside this car...
I had a dream.
My husband, we were in the flat.
He was very clean, and very smiley faced.
I hold his hand, and at the staircase, I told him
"Can you show me, from which floor did you jump?"
He told me "Go down.
" I saw that my son was coming and I said that he was showing us which
floor he jumped from.
When I saw behind, he was not there.
Always, when I have a dream from him, this
is my question, from which floor did you jump?
And I couldn't get the answer.
Farhad and Flora Neda speaking to me earlier.
And tonight, the London Fire Brigade have told us they cannot go
into details of what happened on the night of the Grenfell
fire because of the ongoing investigations.
But they have said that they do not use helicopters to conduct rescues
from high rise towers.