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>> IF HE TAKES THE RISK OF GOING
TO TRIAL AND HE IS CONVICTED
THAT COULD BE SEEN AS AN
IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE.
>> IF HE IS NOT A LEGITIMATELY
ELECTED PRESIDENT IN YOUR MIND
THERE ARE TOOLS THAT CONGRESS
HAS.
>> I THINK WE'RE IN IMPEACHMENT
TERRITORY FOR THE FIRST TIME.
>> IN YOUR VIEW DOES THAT RISE
TO THE LEVEL OF AN IMPEACHABLE
OFFENSE.
>> WHATEVER THE WHITE HOUSE
THOUGHT IT WAS DOING TO DEFEND
ITSELF OR FEND OFF
IMPEACHMENT --
>> IMPEACHMENT.
STEVE: THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING
ABOUT IMPEACHMENT.
JASON CHAFFETZ FORMER HOUSE
GOVERNMENT REFORM COMMITTEE AND
AUTHOR OF A NEW BOOK, THE
LIBERAL SCREAM TO UNDERMINE
TRUMP, THE GOP AND OUR REPUBLIC.
THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING
IMPEACHMENT.
NANCY PELOSI IS TALKING ABOUT
INQUIRY, WHY HAVEN'T THEY HAD A
VOTE?
>> THE VOTE IS VERY IMPORTANT.
NANCY PELOSI GOES BEFORE THE
WORLD IT IS INFORMAL IMPEACHMENT
INQUIRY BUT SHE DOESN'T HAVE A
VOTE.
BECAUSE IT FAILED THREE TIMES F
THEY DID HAVE A VOTE, MINORITY
COULD GET RIGHTS.
THEY WOULD HAVE SUBPOENA
AUTHORITY.
NANCY PELOSI DOES NOT WANT DOUG
COLLINS, THE MINORITY MEMBER
ABOUT, THE RANKING MEMBER ON
HOUSE JUDICIARY TO ALSO TO
DEFEND AND TO HAVE SUBPOENA
AUTHORITY.
STEVE: RIGHT NOW IT IS LOPSIDED.
>> IT IS LOPSIDED.
THEY WANT TO ISSUE SUBPOENAS,
WANT TO DO ALL THIS, BUT DON'T
WANT TO GIVE THE MINORITY TO
ACTUALLY DO THE SAME THING.
THAT IS WHY SHE REFUSES TO DO
THAT.
AINSLEY: IF HE IS ABLE TO DO
THAT, WHEN HE IS ABLE TO DO
THAT, WHO WILL BE SUBPOENAING?
>> A WHOLE HOST THE PEOPLE.
HUNTER BIDEN SHOULD BE BROUGHT
IN.
YOU COULD GO THROUGH A WHOLE
LIST OF THINGS.
LET'S FIND OUT, DO SOME
INVESTIGATION.
SOMETIME FOR REPUBLICANS TO PLAY
OFFENSE.
REPUBLICANS ARE USED TO
APOLOGIZING AND TRYING TO
JUSTIFY.
NANCY PELOSI AND THE DEMOCRATS
THEY'RE ALWAYS PLAYING OFFENSE
BUT NANCY PELOSI KNOWS THAT SHE
HAS GOT TO WITHHOLD THAT ABILITY
OF THE REPUBLICANS TO ACTUALLY
DO WHAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO
DO IS CREATE THE OTHER SIDE OF
THE CASE.
BRIAN: RIGHT AWAY THEY WERE
TALKING ABOUT IMPEACHMENT ALMOST
IMMEDIATELY AFTER BUT NOTHING
WOULD RISE TO THAT LEVEL.
WHY DO YOU THINK THIS UKRAINIAN
CONVERSATION, EVERYONE SEEMED TO
BE IN SYNC FROM CERTAIN MEDIA
OUTLETS TO SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE,
BEFORE THE CALL WAS RELEASED,
BEFORE THE NINE-PAGE COMPLAINT
WAS OUT?
>> IT IS A LITTLE TOO CONVENIENT
THEY HAD A PERFECTLY DRAFFED
DOCUMENT.
YOU HAD A SPEAKER WHO SAID ON
"60 MINUTES" HAD A PREVIEW OF
IT.
VANYA
ADAM SCHIFF SAID HE KNEW
IDENTITY OF THE WHISTLEBLOWER.
IT'S A LITTLE TOO CONVENIENT.
INSPECTOR HOROWITZ AND DURHAM
COMING OUT.
BRIAN: WITH A COUNTER NARRATIVE
ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION OF
DONALD TRUMP BUT THIS, THEY HOPE
PUN INTENDED TRUMPS THAT?
>> WELL LOOK, IF ADAM SCHIFF
REALLY HAD THE GOODS ON THE
PRESIDENT HE WOULD HAVE LED WITH
THAT.
INSTEAD, HE TO EMBELLISH WHAT
THE PRESIDENT SAID, LIE ABOUT
IT.
BY THE WAY THE HOUSE SHOULD
STAND UP FOR ITSELF.
KEVIN AMERICA CART THINK SHOULD
DEMAND SHOULD HAVE TAKEN WORDS
DOWN IN THAT COMMITTEE.
YOU CANNOT DISPARAGE THE
PRESIDENT.
YOU CANNOT ADDRESS THE
PRESIDENT.
THERE ARE HOUSE RULES THEY
SHOULD GO AFTER THIS GUY, HE
SHOULD BE CENSURED SCHIFF
SHOULD.
BRIAN: WHAT GUY?
>> SCHIFF.
HE DID THE PARODY EMBELLISHED.
HE LIED ABOUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT
SAID.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS TREASON.
IT IS IN VIOLATION OF HOUSE
RULES.
THEY SHOULD CALL IT OUT AND PASS
ON THAT.
BRIAN: HE WAS READING FROM A
PAPER AS IF IT WAS DIALOGUE.
>> THIS WAS HIGHLY SCRIPTED.
THIS WAS NOT SOME I AM PROBLEM
TU THING, HE DID IT ON PURPOSE
BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE ISN'T
THERE.
THE EVIDENCE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE TO GO
OUT --
AINSLEY: WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?
WHEN WILL THE VOTE HAPPEN.
>> SUCH URGENT NATIONAL CONCERN
THEY HAD TO GO ON RECESS FOR TWO
WEEKS SO DEMOCRATS CAN DO
POLLING TO FIGURE OUT, LET'S
FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING
NEXT.
BRIAN: 50/50 WHETHER THE PEOPLE
WANT IT.
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
STEVE: REALLY INTERESTING HOW
YOU EXPLAIN WHY THEY DID NOT
TAKE A VOTE.
IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
CHECK AT HESS NEW BOOK.
IT IS CALLED, "POWER GRAB."
BRIAN: REALLY NOT APPROPRIATE
WHAT IS GOING ON NOW.
>> THIS IS CHAPTER ON