I KNOW YOU HAVE YET ANOTHER
PLANE TO CATCH.
THANK YOU FOR COMING ON AND
GIVING YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
>> THANK YOU, CHUCK.
GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.
>>> JOINING ME NOW IS DEMOCRATIC
SENATOR JOE MANCHIN OF WEST
VIRGINIA.
HE CHAIRS THE SENATE RESEARCH
COMMITTEE.
WELCOME BACK.
>> THANK YOU, CHUCK.
>> YOU WERE ON THIS ZOOM WITH
PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY YESTERDAY.
BEFORE I GET TO THE DETAILS,
WHAT WAS THAT LIKE WITH HIM,
WHAT DID HE SAY TO YOU GUYS?
>> IT'S SO SURREAL, BUT HAVING A
PERSON ON THE FRONT LINES TAKING
MORTARS EVERY DAY AND BASICALLY
SEEING HIS PEOPLE BEING
SLAUGHTERED AND WILLING TO FIGHT
BACK, AND ALL HE ASKS FOR IS
I'LL FIGHT MY OWN FIGHT, JUST
GIVE ME THE TOOLS TO DO IT, AND
ANYONE TO HESITATE IN THE FREE
WORLD IS WRONG.
HE SAYS IF UKRAINE FALLS, EUROPE
MAY FALL.
>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR YOU?
DO YOU SUPPORT A NO FLY ZONE
WHICH COULD TRIGGER A WIDER WAR.
>> I UNDERSTAND.
THIS IS PUTIN'S WAR.
THIS IS NOT THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE'S
WAR, THIS IS PUTIN'S WAR AND HIS
REQUESTS FOR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
BUT TAKING EVERYTHING OFF THE
TABLE AND THINKING WE WOULDN'T
USE THINGS IS WRONG.
I WOULDN'T TAKE IT OFF THE
TABLE, BUT I WOULD MAKE IT CLEAR
WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT THE
UKRANIAN PRESIDENT EVERY WAY
POSSIBLE.
ZELENSKYY WAS VERY CLEAR.
WE DON'T NEED YOU TO FIGHT OUR
FIGHT.
WE DON'T NEED YOU TO FLY YOUR
PLANES INTO THE WAR ZONE.
WE NEED PLANES WE CAN FLY
OURSELVES AND WE HAVE THEM ON
THE BORDER.
>> THAT DEAL SEEMS TO BE IN
MOTION, RIGHT, THE TRADING OF
JETS WITH THE POLES IN
PARTICULAR, RIGHT?
>> WE NEED TO BACKFILL THAT.
>> ON THE BORDER, YOU HEARD HIM
SAY, YES, WE'RE IN FAVOR OF IT
IF THE ENTIRE ALLIANCE IS FOR
IT, TOO.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS AN
INTEREST IN DOING IT
UNILATERALLY.
>> PEOPLE THINK WE'RE STUPID TO
KEEP GIVING MONEY TO PUTIN TO
USE AGAINST THE UKRANIAN PEOPLE.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE'S DOING.
WHY WOULDN'T WE LEAVE?
WHY WOULDN'T WE SHOW THE RESOLVE
THAT WE HAVE?
I UNDERSTAND THERE IS
INDEPENDENCE IN THE WORLD, BUT
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO RATCHET
IT UP AND BE THE BACKFILL.
WE HAVE THE ENERGY, WE HAVE THE
RESORTS HERE AND WE HAVE THE
TECHNOLOGY.
WE'RE A MILLION BARRELS SHORT A
DAY THAT WE COULD RAMP UP JUST
LIKE THAT.
WE COULD DO CERTAIN THINGS AND
WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT ANY MORE
PAIN ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT
ARE SUFFERING WITH INFLATION
NOW.
BUT I BELIEVE THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE WOULD BASICALLY PAY IF
THEY HAD TO, SEEING THAT THEY'RE
SAVING FREEDOM AND LIVES OF
INNOCENT PEOPLE.
>> WE SEE THIS IN POLAND NOW.
LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT'S
$5 GAS.
>> INFLATION HAS ALREADY WREAKED
HAVOC ON IT NOW, AND WE'RE GOING
TO SIT BACK BECAUSE WE'RE AFRAID
IT MIGHT GO UP MORE?
IT'S GOING UP NOW AND WE HAVEN'T
DONE ANYTHING.
I'M WILLING TO SAY WE'RE GOING
TO RAMP UP THE ENERGY, NATURAL
GAS, BUILD THE PIPELINES.
WE CAN DO THE ENERGY THAT WE
NEED AS FAR AS IN THIS FOSSIL
WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN AND DO IT
CLEANER THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THE
WORLD IN INNOVATION, BUT WE CAN
ALSO TRANSITION TO A CLEANER
TECHNOLOGY.
>> IS THIS THE PRICE OF YOUR
INVOLVEMENT IN TALKS WITH
DEMOCRATS AND THE PRESIDENT?
YOU SAID WE NEED TO LOWER THE
DEFICIT, I'D LIKE TO DO
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, AND IF
THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE LEFT,
MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT OTHER
THINGS.
BUT YOU ALSO HAD A BIG CIRCLE
AROUND ENERGY INDEPENDENCE
THERE.
YOU WANT TO SEE AN INCREASE IN
ENERGY PRODUCTION BEFORE YOU'LL
SIT DOWN WITH BIDEN?
>> EVERY AMERICAN I KNOW OF HAVE
TOLD ME THE HIGH PRICES THEY
CAN'T SUSTAIN, AND IT'S HURTING
PEOPLE THE MOST TRYING TO WORK
LIKE THE DICKENS.
BASICALLY SUPPORTING UKRAINE AND
SAVING FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY
AROUND THE WORLD, BECAUSE IT
WILL PERMEATE IF WE DON'T STOP
IT.
WE CAN DO ALL OF THIS, BUT YOU
HAVE TO GET YOUR FINANCIAL HOUSE
IN ORDER.
MY GRANDFATHER ALWAYS SAID, JOE,
UNMANAGED THAT WILL MAKE
COWARDLY DECISIONS OUT OF YOU.
WE HAVE TO GET THAT UNDER
CONTROL.
>> DOES THIS WAR IN EUROPE MAKE
IT HARDER TO DO THIS DEAL WITH
THE PRESIDENT OR EASIER?
>> I THINK IT MAKES IT MORE
REALISTIC.
THIS IS THE REAL WORLD.
WE KEEP TALKING EXASPIRATIONAL
THINGS WE WANT TO DO, WHETHER
IT'S ON THE FAR RIGHT OR LEFT.
IT'S NOT NORTH AMERICAN, IT'S
NOT UNITED STATES ONLY, IT'S
GLOBAL.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS GLOBALLY
AS TO WHAT WE CAN DO.
OUR ENERGY THAT WE PRODUCE IN
AMERICA IS CLEANER THAN ANYPLACE
IN THE WORLD, SO ANYTHING WE
BACKFILL WILL BE BETTER THAN
THEY PRODUCE.
THE GAS FROM LNG WE CAN SEND
OVER, EXPANDING PORTS.
WE HAVE REQUESTS FOR PERMITS
THAT ARE STILL STANDING AND WE
HAVEN'T GIVEN.
WE NEED TO DO THAT.
I HAVE A MOUNTAIN VALLEY
PIPELINE IN THE STATE OF WEST
VIRGINIA THAT IT WILL TAKE 2
BILLION CUBIC FEET A DAY INTO
THE MARKETPLACE IMMEDIATELY.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
IT'S 95% DONE.
I CAN'T GET IT DONE.
>> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE THAT
IF WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND FOSSIL
FUEL PRESSURE, IT MAKES IT
HARDER TO GET IT CLEAN.
>> THE PIPELINES CAN BE
TRANSFERRED INTO HYDROGEN
PIPELINES.
THERE IS SO MUCH CLEAN
TECHNOLOGY WE'RE GOING FOR.
IT'S LIKE IF YOU SAY YOU'LL DO
THIS, YOU CAN'T DO THIS.
>> ARE YOU HAVING TALKS WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN?
PRESIDENT BIDEN?
>> THERE ARE TALKS.
IF YOU HAVE ONE THING YOU ARE