PETE: THE ALLIANCE BETWEEN
CHINA AND RUSSIA IS
STRENGTHENING IS THE TWO
NATIONS BEGIN LARGE-SCALE
MILITARY EXERCISES IN RUSSIA’S
FAR EAST WITH WAR WAGING AND
UKRAINE, INTENTIONS ESCALATING
BETWEEN CHINA AND TAIWAN
CONCERNS OVER THE UNITED STATES
POSITION ARE ON THE RISE.
SENIOR FELLOW AT THE GATE STONE
INSTITUTE AND AUTHOR OF THE
COMING COLLAPSE OF CHINA,
GORDON CHANG AND INTELLIGENCE
OFFICER AND AUTHOR OF PUTIN’S
PLAYBOOK, THANK YOU FOR BEING
WITH US.
HOW BIG A THREAT DO YOU TAKE
THAT THESE TWO SUPERPOWERS ARE
CONDUCTING JOINT MILITARY
EXERCISES.
>> THE RUSSIANS AND CHINESE
CONDUCTED EXERCISES SINCE 2,005
BUT HAVE BECOME CLOSER.
WE’VE SEEN ATTEMPTS TO CREATE
INTEROPERABILITY BETWEEN THE
MILITARIES AND THE RUSSIANS
HAVE BEEN PRACTICING WITH THE
CHINESE IN THE SOUTH CHINA SEA
AND IN RELATED AREAS SO WE HAVE
TO ASSUME IF WE ARE IN A FIGHT
WITH CHINA RUSSIA WOULD COME IN
ON THE OTHER SIDE.
WE MAY THINK THAT IS NOT
POSSIBLE.
IT MAY NOT BE LIKELY BUT WHEN
WE THINK ABOUT WAR WE HAVE TO
ASSUME IT WILL OCCUR BECAUSE
THESE TWO MILITARIES ARE
GETTING CLOSER TOGETHER AS OUR
VLADIMIR PUTIN AND XI JINPING.
WILL: CONDUCTING MILITARY
EXERCISES TOGETHER SINCE 2005
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT IS
NOT AN ALLIANCE, IT’S NOT A
DEEP ALLIANCE, THERE’S DEEP
SUSPICION, IS THAT CHANGING?
IS THIS AN ALLIANCE, ONE OF
CONVENIENCE, IT IS A TRUE
PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN CHINA AND
RUSSIA.
>> THEY ARE NOT TRUE STRATEGIC
PARTNERS, BETWEEN RUSSIA AND
CHINA AND ANTAGONISM BUT
REGARDLESS THEY HAVE BEEN
DEEPENING THEIR STRATEGIC
ALLIANCE AS GORDON MENTIONED
AND THE RISK AND PROBABILITY OF
RUSSIA AND CHINA STAGING TWO THEATER WAR PRESENTING A
THEATER WAR PRESENTING A
TREMENDOUS THREAT TO THE UNITED
STATES, THEY ARE DEEPENING THE
ALLIANCE AND IN THE RUN-UP OF
PUTIN’S INVASION OF UKRAINE
THEY ANNOUNCED A NO LIMIT
PARTNERSHIP, BOTH COUNTRY HAVE
THE DOCTRINES TO DEFEAT THE
UNITED STATES EITHER THROUGH
SUBVERSION OVER THE LONG TERM
OR IN THE BATTLEFIELD IF WE
INTERVENE ON BEHALF OF UKRAINE
AND CHINA SO, LIKE TAIWAN RATHER.
SO THE RISK IS REALLY THERE, IN
THE ACT OF CONFLICT RIGHT NOW
THAT NEITHER XI OR PUTIN HAVE
RESPECT FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN.
>> REBECCA LAID OUT, CHINA’S
APPROACH, HAS BEEN SUBVERSION
OVER THE LONG HAUL.
THE POTENTIAL FOR OVERT
CONFLICT, DO YOU THINK CHINA LOOKS AT UKRAINE AND TAKES ON
LOOKS AT UKRAINE AND TAKES ON
SOME HUMILITY.
AND DO THEY SEE RUSH AND
EXPERIENCE IN UKRAINE, EVEN IF
IT IS OVER TAIWAN.
>> IT TO LISTEN BEIJING IS
TAKING ON BUT THEY ARE LOOKING
AT IT DIFFERENTLY.
AS WELL AS THE FAILURE TO DETER
PUTIN.
THE CHINESE ARE PROBABLY SAYING
A FAR STRONGER US FAILED IN
AFGHANISTAN, FAILED IN UKRAINE,
PROBABLY FAILING TAIWAN, THE
SANCTIONS REGIME AGAINST RUSSIA
SAYING IT IS NOT WORKING OUT
WELL FOR THE WEST AND THEY WILL NOT IMPOSE SANCTIONS IN CHINA.
NOT IMPOSE SANCTIONS IN CHINA.
A FORMAL AGREEMENT TO HELP EACH
OTHER, AND CHINA GOING AFTER
TAIWAN, THE US IS DISTRACTED,
NOT A FORMAL MILITARY ALLIANCE,
TO DISTRACT ONE FROM THE OTHER.
WILL: WE DON’T KNOW THE
LISTENING UKRAINE BUT SANCTIONS
HAVEN’T HAD THEIR EFFECT.
THE MORE OBVIOUS LESSON IS AFGHANISTAN.
GORDON SAID IT IN BOTH WAYS.
DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT.
GORDON CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.
IT COULD BE NOT OBVIOUS OR
OVERT BUT IF WE GETTING A
CONFLICT WITH ONE OR THE OTHER.
>> I AGREE WITH GORDON.
THEY WILL JOIN FORCES AND THAT
IS WHAT THE STRATEGIC MILITARY
WARGAME IS ALL ABOUT, IT IS
ONGOING.
PUTIN WILL COME ON THE SIXTH OF
SEPTEMBER TO OVERSEE THE LIVE
FIRE PORTION AND PREVIOUSLY
SIDE EXERCISES INCLUDED IN
NUCLEAR COMPONENT.
AS I MENTIONED TO FOX NEWS
DIGITAL THIS EXERCISE HAS A
HIGH RISK OF MISCALCULATION AND