>> Maria: WELCOME BACK.
VALORIE JARRETT IS SPEAKING OUT
ON WHAT ROSEANNE TWEETED OUT.
SHE SAID THAT ROSEANNE IS NOT
THE ONLY ONE THAT DESERVES THE
BLAME.
TAKE A LISTEN.
>> DO YOU FEEL LIKE THIS
PRESIDENT HAS SET A TONE THAT
HAS MADE PEOPLE FEEL
INCREASINGLY EMPOWERED TO SAY
THOSE KINDS OF THINGS?
>> THIS IS WHAT I THINK.
I THINK TONE DOES START AT TOP
AND WE LIKE TO LOOK UP TO OUR
PRESIDENT AND FEEL HE REFLECTS
THE VALUES OF OUR COUNTRY.
EVERY INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN HAS THE
RESPONSIBILITY, TOO.
>> Maria: SHE SAID SOME OF IT
COMES FROM THE TOP, INCLUDING
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
WHAT DO SOCIAL MEDIA STARS
DIAMOND AND SILK THINK ABOUT
THAT?
YOU HEARD VALORIE JARRETT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> OF COURSE, I DON'T AGREE WITH
WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT BLAMING OUR
PRESIDENT FOR WHAT SOMEONE
TREATED.
FIRST OF ALL, ROSEANNE, SHE'S
NOT A RACIST.
SHE MADE BAD JUDGMENT WHEN SHE
TWEETED OUT SOMETHING THAT WAS A
LITTLE OFF-THE-CUFF.
SHE APOLOGIZED FOR IT.
WHERE IS THE APOLOGY FROM ALL OF
THE OTHER PEOPLE LIKE THE JOY
BEHAR, WHOOPI GOLDBERG, JIMMY
KIMMEL?
WHERE ARE THE APOLOGIES FROM
THOSE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR ABC
AS WELL?
YOU KNOW, WHY HAVEN'T THEIR
SHOWED BEEN CANNED?
THEY SAID SOME OFF-THE-CUFF
STUFF ABOUT OUR PRESIDENT.
ABOUT CONSERVATIVES.
ABOUT PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT OUR
PRESIDENT.
>> Maria: I WAS READING THE
KEITH OBERHMAN TWEETS.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE THE THINGS HE
SAID WITH THE F BOMBS AND THE
PUSH-BACK ON PRESIDENT TRUMP.
YOU HEARD HOWIE KURTZ MENTION
JOY BEHAR.
>> WE HAD TO BLOCK KEITH ON
TWITTER BECAUSE HE'S SO NASTY.
>> VERY NASTY.
>> I DON'T GET THE HYPOCRISY.
WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE
CONVERSATION.
I KNOW VALORIE SAID THIS IS A
TEACHABLE MOMENT.
IF THIS IS A TEACHABLE MOMENT,
HOW ABOUT WE OPEN UP -- OPEN IT
UP.
TALK ABOUT RACISM, TALK ABOUT IT
ON ONE SIDE.
THE WORD "MONKEY", BLACK PEOPLE
CALL US THAT.
>> WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT ON
BOTH SIDES.
>> THIS IS NOT ONE-SIDED.
IT'S NOT ONE SIDED.
IT'S BOTH SIDES.
WE'RE CALLED MONKEYS, COONS, ALL
KINDS OF DEROGATORY NAMES.
YOU TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO TREAT
YOU.
EVERYBODY WANT TO BE MAD AT
ROSEANNE WHO HAPPENS TO BE A
WHITE WOMAN.
YOU CALL HER RACISM.
WHAT ABOUT OUR BLACK BROTHERS
AND SISTERS CALLING OTHERS ALL
KINDS OF DEROGATORY NAMES.
LET'S TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THE
WHOLE CONVERSATION AND NOT JUST
BE ONE SIDED.
>> Maria: SO WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT
IT?
>> STOP CALLING EACH OTHER NAMES
AND COME TO THE TABLE AND TALK
ABOUT IT.
I DON'T THINK HER SHOW SHOULD
HAVE BEEN A TEACHABLE MOMENT.
LET THIS PLAY OUT ON THE SHOW SO
WE KNOW HOW TO TREAT EACH OTHER.
>> Maria: FEELS LIKE IF YOU'RE A
TRUMP SUPPORTER, THERE'S NO ROOM
FOR ERROR.
SHE OBVIOUSLY MADE A BIG
MISTAKE.
>> AND SHE APOLOGIZED.
>> Maria: THERE'S NO ROOM FOR
AIRFER YOU HAVE A CONSERVATIVE
MENTALITY.
>> THAT'S NOT FAIR.
THAT'S WHAT THE HYPOCRISY COMES
IN.
THAT'S -- IT'S GOT TO STOP.
>> SHE'S APOLOGIZED FOR IT.
THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING.
SHE WAS WOMAN ENOUGH TO
APOLOGIZE IT.
WHEN SHE SAW THE JOKE FELL FLAT,
SHE APOLOGIZED FOR IT.
WE STILL HAVE YET TO WAIT ON
OTHER PEOPLE FROM THE LEFT.
WITH WERE ASTOUNDED -- THEY'RE
BEATING THIS LADY UP ABOUT
RACISM WHEN THEY'RE THE ONES
THAT DOES THE RACISM.
YOU'LL SEE SO MANY DEROGATORY
REMARKS MADE ABOUT US FROM OTHER
BLACK PEOPLE SPEAKING OUT,
TALKING ABOUT THIS PERSON IS
RACIST.
ONE TWEET DON'T MAKE YOU A
RACIST.
>> Maria: SO WAS IT APPROPRIATE?
WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENS WITH
ROSEANNE NOW?
WAS IT APPROPRIATE THAT THE SHOW
WAS CANCELLED AND DO YOU THINK
IT GETS PICKED UP BY SOMEBODY
ELSE?
THE SHOW IS INCREDIBLY
SUCCESSFUL.
>> A VERY SUCCESSFUL SHOW.
I HOPE IT GETS PICKED UP BY
SOMEBODY ELSE IF ABC DOESN'T
WANT TO DEAL WITH IT.
LISTEN, I THINK EVERYBODY
DESERVES TO BE FORGIVEN.
>> YOU CANCEL HER SHOW, THERE'S
MORE SHOWS THAT NEED TO BE
CANCELLED.
WE CAN CANCEL "THE VIEW" AND
JIMMY KIMMEL.
THEY SAY DEROGATORY THINGS.
YOU WANT TIT FOR TAT --
>> THAT'S A POINT.
JIMMY KIMMEL SAYS I'M A
COMEDIAN.
>> SHE'S A COMEDIAN, TOO.
>> SHE WASN'T MAKING A JOKE --
>> SHE SAID SHE WAS MAKING A
JOKE.
I WANT TO GIVE HER THE BENEFIT
OF THE DOUBT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
SHE WAS MAKING A JOKE.
SHE APOLOGIZED FOR IT, A
COMEDIAN JUST CALLED US BOOT
LIQUORS AND COONS.
WE TOLD HIM TO TAKE IT DOWN.
HE DID.
IT HAPPENS.
>> Maria: YOU HAD YOUR
CHALLENGES WITH TWITTER IN
ITSELF.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
TWITTER.
YES.
>> YOU THINK THAT'S BECAUSE YOUR
CONSERVATIVES?
>> AND WE SUPPORT THIS
PRESIDENT.
YOU HAVE TO REALIZE HOW HE WON
THIS, THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA.
WE USED SOCIAL MEDIA.
NOW HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES.
THEY DON'T LIKE THAT.
THEY'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING
THEY CAN TO BLOCK US AND STOP
US.
>> AND LOOK AT US AS A DOUBLE
THREAT.
WE'RE TWO BLACK WOMEN, WE LOVE
OUR PRESIDENT.
WE'RE A TRIPLE THREAT.
>> Maria: IN TERMS OF SOCIAL
MEDIA, PEOPLE ARE MOVING SO
FAST.
THEY SAY THINGS LIKE THIS.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE SEEN IT MYSELF.
YOU SAY THINGS AND IT'S OH GOSH,
WHY DID I SAY THAT?
WE SHOULD HAVE MORE FORGIVENESS
FOR THAT.
HAVING SAID THAT, THERE'S NO
ROOM.
THERE'S NO TOLERANCE FOR RACIST.
>> THERE'S NO TOLERANCE FOR
THAT.
ANY KIND OF RACISM ON EITHER
SIDE.
WE CAN'T ALWAYS POINT THE FINGER
AT EVERY WHITE PERSON WHEN MY
BLACK BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE
CALLING US OUT.
BEN CARSON WAS JUST CALLED A
PORCH MONKEY NOBODY SAID NOTHING
ABOUT THAT JOURNALIST.
EVERYBODY WANTS TO GO OFF ON
ROSEANNE.
>> Maria: A JOURNALIST CALLED
HIM THAT.
>> YES.
>> DIDN'T APOLOGIZE.
>> YOU'RE RIGHT.
>> CAN'T BE A DOUBLE STANDARD.
RACISM IS NOT JUST ABOUT WHITE.
IF YOU ARE SPEWING UP, THEN YOU
NEED TO STOP DOING IT.
>> Maria: IT'S IGNORANCE ACROSS
THE BOARD.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> Maria: COMES IN MANY FORMS.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> Maria: SO HAVE YOU HEARD FROM
ROSEANNE?
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF HER
RESPONSE?
>> LISTEN, IF IT WAS ME, I WOULD
GET OFF AND GIVE IT A BREAK.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ON THE
DEFENSE ABOUT EVERYTHING.
>> Maria: THE PRESIDENT
RESPONDING, JUST TALK TO HOWIE
KURTZ ABOUT THIS IS GIVING MORE
PEOPLE AMMUNITION TO ATTACK
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
YOU KNOW THAT.
>> HERE'S THE DEAL.
HE MADE PERFECT SENSE WHEN HE
SAID IT.
ALL OF THESE PEOPLE OF ABC
ATTACKS HIM.
THAT PRODUCER, WHOEVER THAT WAS,
THEY DIDN'T SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT,
MR. PRESIDENT?
WE ARE SORRY.
WE APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT.
THE HYPOCRISY.
IT CANNOT BE ONE SIDED AND IT'S
ONE-SIDED.
I'M HAPPY THAT THE PRESIDENT
WEIGHED IN THE WAY HE WEIGHED
IN.
>> Maria: BUT THE PRESIDENT IS
NOT AFRAID TO SAY, YOU KNOW,
LYING TED OR --
>> THAT WAS DURING A PRIMARY.
>> CHUCK TODD, SLEEPY EYES.
HE'S NOT AFRAID TO THROW IT.
>> THESE PEOPLE HAVE THROWN IT
TO HIM.
>> Maria: THAT'S TRUE.
>> THEY HAVE SAID THE MOST
DAMNED THINGS.
PRESIDENT.
IMAGINE IF HE DID THAT TO OBAMA.
EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE BROKE
LOOSE.
>> AND THE CRAZY THING, THEY DO
IT DAILY.
ROSEANNE I SHOW CAME ON ONCE A
WEEK.
THEY DO IT DAILY AND NO APOLOGY.
THEY CALL HIM A HOMOPHOBE,
XENOPHOBE.
THEY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM SAYING
HE'S A RACIST.
DONALD TRUMP, OUR PRESIDENT IS
NOT A RACISTIC AND THE ONLY
COLOR HE SEE IS GREEN AND HE
WANTS EVERYBODY TO HAVE SOME.
>> HE'S WANTS US TO BE
PROSPEROUS.
>> Maria: BY THE WAY, IT'S
HAPPENING.
THE ECONOMY IS GROWING.
LET ME ASK YOU, BECAUSE OF YOUR
CONSERVATIVE VIEWS, YOU'RE LIKE
OUT THERE AND YOU'RE UP FOR
ATTACK.
I'VE WATCHED THIS.
HAVE YOU ALWAYS BEEN
CONSERVATIVE?
>> WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN
CONSERVATIVES IN OUR THOUGHT AND
THINKING PROCESS.
WE TENDED TO VOTE DEMOCRAT
BECAUSE WE WERE CONDITIONED.
WE FOUND THAT JUST BECAUSE
YOU'RE BLACK DIDN'T MEAN YOU
HAVE TO VOTE DEMOCRAT.
WE SAY YOU CAN GET OFF OF THAT,
THE DEMOCRAT PLANTATION AND VOTE
FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
WHEN WE SAW DONALD TRUMP NOW
PRESIDENT TRUMP, WE WANTED
SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND THAT'S
WHY WE VOTED FOR HIM.
>> Maria: REALLY INTERESTING.
SO YOU SORT OF WENT WITH THE
HERD.
>> CONDITIONED.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
WE WERE LIFE-LONG DEMOCRATS.
BEING LIFE-LONG DEMOCRATS, THEY
TELL YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO VOTE
DEMOCRAT.
WHOEVER THE HEAD OF THE TICKET
IS, THAT'S WHO YOU VOTE FOR.
>> Maria: EVEN IF YOUR LIFE
HASN'T CHANGED, IF YOU WEREN'T
LIKING THE POLICIES, IF THE
POLICIES WERE WORKING AGAINST
YOU.
>> THEY SAY STUFF LIKE YOU MAY
NOT BE ABLE TO EAT UNDER A
REPUBLICAN.
THAT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO
THE JIM CROW DAYS CREATED BY THE
DEMOCRATS.
YOU HAVE TO KNOW YOUR HISTORY.
WHEN WE DID OUR HISTORY ABOUT
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, IT WAS
TIME TO DITCH THEM.
THAT'S WHY WE STARTED THE DITCH
AND SWITCH MOVEMENT IN SEPTEMBER
OF 2015 BECAUSE WE WANT
EVERYBODY TO SWITCH TO
REPUBLICAN TO VOTE FOR DONALD
TRUMP.
>> Maria: YOU MAKE A LOT OF GOOD
POINTS, LADIES.
YOU THINK THE MID-TERMS WILL BE
SUCCESSFUL FOR THE REPUBLICANS?
>> I'M LOOKING FOR THEM TO BE
SUCCESSFUL FOR THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY.
>> THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS
BLUE WAVE AND SEEMS TO BE SORT
OF IN THE BACK SEAT RIGHT NOW.
>> BECAUSE OF THE POLICIES
COMING OUTS OF THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION, THAT HAS HAD AN
IMPACT.
>> VOTE RIGHT OR YOU'RE GOING TO