HOUSE SHORTLY.
JON: MARK, THANKS.
SOUTH CAROLINA REPUBLICAN
CONGRESSWOMAN NANCY JOINS US
NOW, A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE OF
VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE THE
PRESIDENT PROMISED SWIFT SEVERE
SANCTIONS IF RUSSIA INVADES. THERE ARE MANY WHO SAY WHY WAIT?
THERE ARE MANY WHO SAY WHY WAIT?
WHY NOT PUT THE SANCTIONS ON NOW
AND START TO FEEL THE PAIN AND
MAYBE HE WILL THINK TWICE ABOUT
INVASION?
YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> IF WE WERE GOING TO HOLD
SANCTIONS WITH OUR ALLIES, WE
SHOULD HAVE ALREADY.
IT’S PAST TIME TO TAKE THAT
ACTION BUT ONCE AGAIN THE UNITED
STATES AND BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
ARE LEADING FROM BEHIND.
WE SAW DURING OBAMA’S TENURE, HE
GAVE AWAY CRIMEA THAT
CONSEQUENCE AND IT’S NO SURPRISE
TEN YEARS LATER WE SEE BIDEN
BOSCH AFGHANISTAN, CRUSHING
AFGHANISTAN AND AWAY WE LEFT
LEAVES OUR COUNTRY VULNERABLE
AND HE’D LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN
THIS, HE DOING THAT TO
RECONSTITUTE AND WOULD NOT DONE
ENOUGH AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU
AGREE, I DON’T BELIEVE IT’S
WORTH ONE DROP OF AMERICAN BLOOD
BLOOD.
JON: THE PRESIDENT CAME INTO
OFFICE HAVING SPENT 30 OR
SOMETHING YEARS ON THE FOREIGN
RELATIONS COMMITTEE, HE SAID HE
WAS THE OLD HAND, ALL THE WORLD
LEADERS BY ME, WHY VLADIMIR
PUTIN TESTING HIM?
>> IS DEFINITELY WEEK ON THE
WORLD STAGE IF YOU LOOK AT HOW
HE’S OPERATING WHETHER IT’S
CHINA AGGRESSION, A MEMO A FEW
MONTHS AGO STOPPING CHINA ON THE
HAND, NOT INVESTIGATING THEM IN
REGARDS TO HOW HE BOSCH
AFGHANISTAN, HE DOESN’T HAVE THE
LEADERSHIP FOR ALLIES TOGETHER
AND RELATIONSHIP WITH NATO
ALLIES DURING AFGHANISTAN AS
WELL WE ARE SHOWING WEAKNESS AND
THAT’S WHY WE ARE VULNERABLE,
THIS DOESN’T HAPPEN UNDER BOTH
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION FROM
OFFICIALS UNDER OBAMA TENURE AND
NOT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AND
WE ARE SEEING TODAY.
JON: ALSO UNDER THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION THERE WAS U.S.
WEAPONRY SENT TO UKRAINE, IS NOT
GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE HERE?
IS IT PERHAPS PART OF THE REASON
HE’S HELD OFF UNTIL NOW?
>> IT WOULD MAKE THE SITUATION
THAT THEY ARE WITH THE WEAPONS
UKRAINE HAS BUT OBVIOUSLY
DETERRENCE AND THE ESCALATION
HERE AND YOU LOOK AT PUTIN
BUILDING UP THE LAST SEVERAL
YEARS, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY,
SANCTIONS FROM THE U.S. HAS NOT
WORKED SO FAR.
WE’VE GOT TO WORK WITH EUROPEAN
ALLIES AND INCREASE UNITED
STATES AND FOSSIL FUELS AND
NATURAL GAS AND ETC. AND REDUCE
IMPORTS OF RUSSIA BUT EUROPEAN
ALLIES SHOULD DURING US, WE GOT
TO HIT HIM WHERE IT HURTS THEM
OUT IS ONE WAY.
JON: MUCH OF HIS MARKET IS
WESTERN EUROPE, WHO HE SELLS HIS
OIL AND GAS TO, THEY CAN’T JUST
TURN OFF AND SAY WE ARE NOT
GOING TO BUY FROM YOU ANYMORE,
KAMI?
>> IT’S COMPLICATED BUT 50% OF
RUSSIA’S EXPORTS GO TO OUR
EUROPEAN ALLIES AND 40% ARE FROM
RUSSIA WHICH IS WHY THE U.S.
SHOULD TAKE A STRONGER STANCE ON
BRINGING ALLIES TOGETHER AND
INCREASING OR IMPORTING MORE
RUSSIAN OIL HERE TODAY THAN IN
MANY YEARS AND WE ARE GREATER
EXPORTERS UNDER THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION AND BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION AND THERE ARE
THINGS WE CAN DO AND WE CAN LOOK
AT THE COST OF GAS AND FUEL WHEN
YOU FEEL YOUR CAR AT THE GAS
STATION, WHAT WE ARE DOING ISN’T
WORKING AND RUSSIA AND PUTIN IS
NOT TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY.
JON: A BARREL OF OIL PRICE GOES
UP OVER $65, VLADIMIR PUTIN
STARTS MAKING REAL MONEY.
IT WASN’T THAT LONG AGO THE U.S.
IS THE WORLD’S BIGGEST OIL
PRODUCER IN THOSE DAYS, PRICES
WERE LOW, VLADIMIR PUTIN WAS IN
THE POOR HOUSE.
>> WE ARE ADDING TO HIS CHEST
AND MILITARIZATION, OIL AND GAS
IN THE MORE MONEY HE HAS FOR HIS
MILITARY TO BE AGGRESSIVE AND
YOU MENTIONED EARLIER CONCERN
FOR CYBER ATTACK, THIS IS
NOTHING NEW, CHINA AND RUSSIA
ACTORS HAVE USED CYBER ATTACKS
FOR YEARS NOW AND WE ARE NOT
PREPARED TO HANDLE IT.
WE GOT TO BEEN AND AND PUSH BACK
ON THESE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY,
CYBERSECURITY NEXT WARFRONT WE
WILL HAVE, WE’VE GOT TO DO A
BETTER JOB HANDLING THIS NOT