MARIA: WELCOME BACK.
WELL, THE JANUARY 6th HOUSE
SELECT COMMITTEE BEGAN ITS PRIME
TIME SHOW LAST NIGHT.
THE PANEL PLAYING TESTIMONY FROM
TRUMP -- PROM PRESIDENT -- PRESI
DAUGHTER AND FORMER ATTORNEY
GENERAL BILL BARR, THE GOP IS
BLASTING THE INVESTIGATION AS AN
EFFORT TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT
FROM THE ECONOMY AND THE
PRESIDENT’S LOW APPROVAL
RATINGS.
THIS WAS THE FIRST OF SEVEN
TELEVISED HEARINGS, I BELIEVE
THEY ALSO RAN AN INTERVIEW WITH
PRESIDENT TRUMP ON SUNDAY
MORNING FUTURES WITH ME ON FOX
NEWS.
JOINING ME RIGHT NOW IS TRUMP
MEDIA AND TECHNOLOGY GROUP CEO
AND FORMER CALIFORNIA
CONGRESSMAN, DEVIN NUNES, DEVIN,
IT’S GREAT TO SEE YOU.
THANKS VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
I WANT TO GET INTO TRUTH SOCIAL,
HOW EVERYTHING IS GOING.
I WANT TO GET INTO TWITTER AND
ELON MUSK.
BUT FIRST, GIVE US YOUR SENSE OF
WHAT WENT DOWN LAST NIGHT WITH
THIS COMMITTEE ON THE
JANUARY 6th HEARING.
HOW DID IT GO?
>> I GOT UP EARLY.
I SAW A FEW HIGHLIGHTS FROM LAST
NIGHT AND GOT UP EARLY THIS
MORNING AND WATCHED SOME OF THE
OTHER NETWORKS TO SEE WHAT
THEY’RE SAYING.
IT’S LIKE WE LIVE IN TWO
DIFFERENT WORLDS.
YOU’VE GOT THE WORLD OF PEOPLE
THAT MAKES UP 90% OF THE MEDIA
THAT ARE CONTINUING TO PLAY THIS
MINI SERIES OF HOAXES.
IT STARTED WITH THE RUSSIA HOAX,
THEY HAD A GRAND PERFORMANCE
THERE.
THEN THEY HAD THE MUELLER HOAX
AND THEY WERE GOING TO --
REMEMBER, THEY WERE GOING TO
BRING THAT THAT TO LIFE.
I HAD TO LIVE THROUGH ALL OF
THAT.
THEN THEY HAD THE FIRST
IMPEACHMENT HOAX.
FOR THIS ONE, THIS WAS MADE TO
BE THEIR GRAND FINALE, PRIME
TIME, BRINGING IN A HOLLYWOOD
GUY TO HELP PRODUCE IT.
AND LOOK, IF YOU REMEMBER BACK I
THINK IT THAT WAS THE ’90s,
REMEMBER THE BIG HOLLYWOOD
PRODUCTION, I THINK IT WAS
CALLED WATER WORLD AND THEY
SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON IT,
THE MOST EXPENSIVE MOVIE EVER.
I THINK THIS IS THE DEMOCRATS’
VERSION OF WATER WORLD.
THAT’S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME.
I DON’TI DON’T KNOW HOW THEY’LL
PEOPLE TO TUNE IN NEXT WEEK.
NOTHING NEW CAME OUT.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, NOTHING
NEW CAME OUT.
AND THE FACT THAT THEY’RE NOT
ACTUALLY GETTING TO THE BOTTOM
OF WHAT ARE REAL PROBLEMS WITH
JANUARY 6th WHICH ARE WHY
WASN’T THE FENCE UP?
PELOSI’S CALL.
WHERE WERE THE NATIONAL GUARD?
PELOSI ONCE AGAIN, THAT WAS HER
CALL.
WE NOW KNOW THAT THAT PRESIDENT
TRUMP AUTHORIZED THOSE NATIONAL
GUARDSMEN AND THEN OF COURSE THE
BIG ISSUE HERE IS IT’S VERY
SIMILAR TO THE RUSSIA HOAX AND
ALL THE STUFF THAT DURHAM’S
LOOKING AT.
WE HAVE THESE PEOPLE THAT WERE
CLEARLY INCHES INSTIGATING THIS
WHO ARE WALKING FREE WHO AREN’T
TARGETS OF THE FBI INVESTIGATION
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT’S -- WHEN
I’M TALKING TO MY FORMER COG
COLLEAGUES, THAT’S WHAT THEY’RE
SAYING.
IF REPUBLICANS DO WIN IN
NOVEMBER LOOK, I THINK THERE’S
GOING TO HAVE TO BE A REAL
INVESTIGATION INTO JANUARY 6th
AND MY PREDICTION HERE IS THAT
ALL OF THIS STUFF THEY’VE DONE
THAT CAUSED JUST A ROT IN
WASHINGTON, D.C. AND A ROTTING
OF THE CONGRESS, YOU KNOW,
HELL’S GOING TO BE A PAYBACK
HERE.
PELOSI LIKELY NOT GOING TO BE
SPEAKER, MAY NOT BE IN CONGRESS.
LOOK, I THINK IT’S GOING TO BE
PROBABLE THAT SHE’S GOING TO GET
SUBPOENAED IN THE FUTURE.
MARIA: WELL, I MEAN, I THINK
MOST PEOPLE ARE VERY DISMAYED BY
THIS DOUBLE STAN A STANDARD AND
TWO-SIDED JUSTICE SYSTEM.
YOU JUST MENTIONED THE RUSSIA
HOAX AND YOU LIVED THROUGH IT.
YOU WERE THE TRUTH TELLER IN THE
FACE OF CONSTANT SOCIAL MEDIA
COMING AT YOU.
I REMEMBER HOW TOUGH IT WAS AND
YET THERE WAS REALLY NO BIG SHOW
OVER THAT.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT
HILLARY CLINTON DID AND HER
CAMPAIGN, COMING UP WITH THE
STORY ABOUT TRUMP COLLUDING,
LETTING IT GO VIRAL AND WILD THROUGHOUT FEDERAL AGENCIES AND
THROUGHOUT FEDERAL AGENCIES AND
THEN LETTING IT GO VIRALLING VIR
THROUGHOUT THE -- IS THAT A AN
ATTACK ON OUR DEMOCRACY.
>> THIS IS A DARK CHAPTER OF
AMERICAN HISTORY, STARTED IN
2016 WITH THE CORRUPTION OF THE
CLINTON CAMPAIGN AND DNC WITH
THE FBI AND DOJ AND IT’S
CONTINUING TO GO AND THIS IS
JUST THE LATEST INSTALLMENT.
THEY PRODUCE A PROPAGANDA FILM,
THEN THEY PUSH IT OUT TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE AND IT’S
ABSOLUTE POISON.
IT’S REAL POISON.
MARIA: YEAH.
AND OF COURSE TWITTER WAS
ENABLING A LOT OF THAT POISON
WITH FAKE ACCOUNTS OR PUSHBACK
ON ANYBODY WHO SAID ANYTHING
ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON MAKING UP
A STORY.
NOW TWITTER SAYS IT’S GOING TO
OFFER A FIRE HOSE OF USER DATA
TO ELON MUSK BECAUSE ELON IS
THREATENING TO PULL OUT OF THE
$44 BILLION DEAL WITH TWITTER.
IT’S GOING TO HAVE THAT
SHAREHOLDER HE VOTE IN AUGUST AU
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE BOT
PROBLEM OF.
YOU WERE THE FIRST PERSON TO
RAISE THIS ISSUE ON THE PROGRAM
AND YOU SAID IT’S FAKE.
THERE’S ALL THESE FAKE ACCOUNTS
AND NOW YOU SEE ELON MUSK
ACTUALLY QUESTIONING WHAT THE
COMPANY TOLD THE SECURITIES AND
EXCHANGE COMMISSION.
IT SAID TO THE S.E.C. IT’S ONLY
5% ACCOUNTS ARE FAKE.
>> YEAH.
SO REMEMBER, WE TALKED ABOUT
THIS A COUPLE TIMES, MARIA, ON
THE SHOW AND I’M GOING TO STILL
STICK WITH MY ORIGINAL
PREDICTION.
REMEMBER THEY SAID 5%.
I SAW EARLIER ON YOUR SHOW THERE
NOW ARE OUTSIDE GROUPS WHO ARE
SAYING IT’S AT LEAST 10% AND I’M
GOING TO STICK WITH THIS.
THAT IT’S GOING TO BE A LOT
CLOSER TO BEING 95% BOTS THAN IT
IS GOING TO BE 5 BOTS.
I DON’T KNOW WHERE THE NUMBER
FALLS OUT.
BUT LOOK, YOU’RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
THIS IS RELATED.
THIS IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH
THE SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES.
IT’S NOT JUST THAT THEY CENSOR
CONSERVATIVES.
IT’S ALSO THAT THEY ALLOW THESE
FAKE AND SPAM ACCOUNTS TO BE
CREATED AND THEY’RE NOT
IMPOSSIBLE.
LOOK, AT TRUTH SOCIAL, WE’RE
CONSTANTLY HAVING TO FIGHT THAT
BATTLE TOO.
BUT THE FACT IS, IF THEY KNOW
THERE ARE OPERATIONS OF OUT
THERE FUNDED BY THE LEFT THAT
CREATE THESE -- IT’S ASTRO
TURFING TO HELP THE P PROPAGANDA
THAT THEY’RE SELLING SO IT’S ALL
RELATED.
IT STARTS WITH A FAKE NEWS
NARRATIVE.
IT RUNS THROUGH THE FAKE NEWS.
THEY PRODUCE FAKE NEWS STORIES
AND THEN THEY SHOVE IT INTO
PLACES LIKE TWITTER THAT JUST
BECOMES A SEWER.
AND I THINK THAT’S THE CHALLENGE
ELON MUSK WAS GOING TO HAVE AND
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND I HAVE BEEN
VERY CLEAR.
WE’RE ALL FOR IT.
OUR MISSION AT TRUTH SOCIAL IS
TO OPEN THE INTERNET BACK UP,
GET PEOPLE, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
THEIR VOICE BACK.
BUT LOOK, I THINK IT’S -- THAT
$44 BILLION PRICE TAG, IT’S
TOUGH TO JUSTIFY WHEN THERE’S SO
MANY BOTS AND FAKE ACCOUNTS.
I STICK TO THIS.
I DON’T KNOW ANY NORMAL PEOPLE
THAT ARE ON TWITTER.
AT TRUTH SOCIAL, WE KNOW WHERE
THE USERS ARE.
THEY’RE ON INSTAGRAM.
AND THEY’RE ON TIKTOK.
AND FOR OUR BUSINESS, THAT’S
WHERE WE HAVE TO GO, MARIA.
MARIA: SO WHERE ARE YOU NOW ON
TRUTH SOCIAL?
YOU JUST SAID YOU BATTLE THIS
FAKE BOT STORY AS WELL.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THAT?
AND WHERE ARE YOU IN THE GROWTH
STORY?
WE’VE BEEN WITH YOU ALL ALONG AS
YOU BUILT THIS THING.
WHERE ARE YOU IN THE BUILD-OUT
PROCESS.
>> YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY WAS A
BIG DAY FORS US.
WE HAD OUR FIRST MAJOR UPDATE SO
IT WAS A REAL CHANGE TO OUR
FEED.
SO WE HAVE MANY NEW FEATURES
NOW.
WE JUST STARTED SO WE JUST HAVE
A CHRONOLOGICAL FEED.
NOW YOU WE’VE GIVEN OUR USERS
THE ABILITY TO DO QUOTE TRUTH
WHICH IS A FUNCTION THAT -- A
FEATURE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE
WANTED.
YESTERDAY WAS AN EXCITING DAY.
LOOK, WE CONTINUE TO GROW.
THE WAYS YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT
THIS IS WE’RE GROWING, WE’RE
SUCCESSFUL, WE HAVE A LOT OF
PEOPLE ON THE PLAT PLATFORM, EVE
DAY WE GET BIGGER AND BIGGER,
AND IT’S A PRODUCT OF SUCCESS.
ANY ONE OF THESE COMPANIES,
ANYBODY ON THE INTERNET YOU’LL
HAVE A BOT AND SPAM PROBLEM.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TRUTH
SOCIAL AND OTHER BIG TECH
TYRANTS, WE DON’T WANT BOTS.
IT’S OUR MISSION TO HAVE A
FAMILY FRIENDLY PLACE AND WE
WANT TO MAKE -- TRY TO MAKE SURE
TO THE BEST OF OUR THAT IF
YOU’RE ON THE PLATFORM YOU’RE
REPRESENTING SOMEBODY THAT IS
REAL AND WE’VE DONE THAT FROM
THE VERY BEGINNING.
AND LOOK, I THINK ANOTHER GOOD
EXAMPLE, YOU WERE INTERVIEWING
SOMEBODY, I WAS GETTING READY
HERE, JUST BEFORE THE HOUR.
ONE OF YOUR AN LIFTS THAT WAS
LOOK -- ANALYSTS THAT WAS
LOOKING AT TWITTER, HE ADMITTED
HE HAD TWO OR THREE ACCOUNTS
THAT HE HADN’T OPENED UP IN MANY
YEARS.
THAT’S WHAT YOU’RE SEEING.
MARIA: REALLY INTERESTING.
DEVIN, GREAT TO TALK TO YOU
ABOUT ALL OF THAT.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS
MORNING.
DEVIN NUNES, THE CEO OF TRUMP