PROTECT SOURCES.
>> Shannon: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CONGRESSMAN JIM JORDAN SAID THE
HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MAY
HOLD A HEARING ON THE
SURVEILLANCE OF ALI WATKINS.
JOINING ME TO TALK ABOUT THAT IS
CHRIS STEWART FROM UTAH.
THE CONGRESSMAN ON THE HOUSE
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US
TONIGHT.
>> GOOD EVENING.
>> Shannon: I WANT TO GET A
LITTLE BIT OF YOUR REACTION TO
WHAT HAS BEEN BREAKING WITH
THESE LEAKS.
YOU KNOW HOW CRITICAL IT IS WITH
THE INFORMATION GATHERING BODY
THAT INFORMATION IS SENSITIVE.
SOMETHING WE HEARD FROM THE FBI
SPECIAL AGENT IN CHARGE WHO
CARRIED OUT THE CASE INVOLVING
JAMES WOLFE SAID HIS ARREST
DEMONSTRATES THE CONDUCT WILL
NOT BE TOLERATE AND THOSE
ENGAGED IN IT WILL BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE.
HOW MUCH IS THIS SENDING A
MESSAGE TO OTHERS?
>> I HOPE IT DOES.
IT'S AN ENORMOUS PROBLEM.
WE HAVE ACCESS TO SOME OF THE
MOST HIGHLY SENSITIVE INFORMING
IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I'VE
TALKED WITH PEOPLE ABOUT THE
PROBLEM OF THE LEAKS.
I THINK THERE'S TWO PROBLEMS
HERE.
ONE IS AS YOU'VE DISCUSSED WITH
SOME OF YOUR REPORTERS, THERE'S
AN ISSUE OF FREEDOM OF THE
PRESS.
I'LL LET OTHERS TALK ABOUT THAT.
THE ONE THING I CAN TALK ABOUT
WITH CLARITY AND THAT'S MOST OF
THAT PROBLEM GOES AWAY IF PEOPLE
DON'T LEAK CLASSIFIED
INFORMATION.
WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AND
MORAL AND LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY
NOT TO LEAK THIS KIND OF
INFORMATION AND IT HAS
IMPLICATION FOR OUR SECURITY AND
A HOPE WE GO AFTER THESE GUYS
HARD.
I'VE SAID THAT A THOUSAND TIMES.
>> Shannon: THE PRESIDENT TALKED
ABOUT THE TOUGH INTERSECTION OF
FREEDOM OF THE PRESS WHICH HE
SAID HE SUPPORTS BUT PROSECUTING
THOSE WHO DIVULGE AND LEAK
INFORMATION.
ESPECIALLY IN THIS
ADMINISTRATION SEEMS LIKE A
TOUGH PROBLEM.
ANOTHER TOUGH PROBLEM IS THE
ISSUE OF IMMIGRATION AND THE
ALLEGATIONS OF CHILDREN BEING
SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS
WHEN THEY COME ACROSS THE
BORDER.
THE CURRENT ICE DIRECTOR SAID
THIS ABOUT WHEN KIDS GET
SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS.
>> CHILDREN AND PARENTS GET
SEPARATED IN THIS COUNTRY WHEN A
PARENT IS CHARGED WITH A
CRIMINAL EFFECT.
IT'S SAD TO SEE A CHILD CRY WHEN
YOU TAKE A PARENT BUT BECAUSE
IT'S SAD DOESN'T MEAN YOU IGNORE
THE LAW.
>> Shannon: HE SAID THE PARENTS
ARE THE ONES ENDANGERING THE
KIDS.
WHAT DO YOU SAY?
>> VERY QUICKLY ON THE PREVIOUS
SUBJECT, THE FACT YOU DON'T LIKE
THE PRESIDENT AND MAY NOT AGREE
WITH HIS POLITICS DOES NOT GIVE
YOU AUTHORITY TO LEAK CLASSIFIED
INFORMATION.
I WANT TO PUT OUT THAT THERE.
THE NEXT QUESTION ABOUT
IMMIGRATION.
PEOPLE.
IT'S DISTURBING I UNDERSTAND
THAT BUT THERE'S COMPLICATED
FACTORS THAT MAKE IT DIFFICULT.
ONE IS WHAT HE JUST SAID.
WE'VE DISCOVERED SOME PARENTS
HAVE A CRIMINAL HISTORY AND IN
SOME CASES THERE'S EVIDENCE OF
TRAFFICKING OR EXPLOITING THE
CHILDREN AND CURRENT COURT
ORDERS ONLY ALLOW YOU TO DETAIN
THE CHILD FOR NINE DAYS AT THAT
POINT YOU HAVE TO PUT THEM IN
FOSTER CARE OR A RELATIVE.
THAT FORCE THE SEPARATIONS.
THERE'S THINGS WE CAN DO.
ONE, WE NEED TO SPEND MORE MONEY
ON FAMILY DETENTION CENTERS
ALLOWING THAT OPTION AND THE
SECOND THING IS WE HAVE TO
ADDRESS THE LEGAL IMPLICATIONS
OF THE CURRENT COURT ORDER THAT
FORCE THE SEPARATION AT NINE
DAYS AND TRY TO KEEP FAMILIES
TOGETHER BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN
THEY HAVE ACCESS TO ENTER THE
COUNTRY.
THE FACT YOU SHOW UP AT YOUR
BORDER WITH YOUR CHILDREN
DOESN'T GUARANTEE ACCESS TO THE
COUNTRY.
WE STILL NEED TO SECURE BORDERS.
I THINK WE CAN DO IT IN A WAY
THAT DOESN'T MAKE MANY OF US
UNCOMFORTABLE.
>> Shannon: IT'S GUT WRENCHING
AND LOTS OF EMOTION ON ALL SIDES
OF THE ISSUE AND GOES BACK TO
THE ISSUE OF THE BROKEN
IMMIGRATION SYSTEM WHICH I KNOW