Moderator: Religions in this world proclaims that the God has created human beings,
but our evolutionary science is saying that human beings have come from monkeys.
Which one should I believe in?
Sadhguru: What do you feel closer to? (Laughter)
So, if you're going in forward gear, go with Darwin; if you're in reverse gear, go with God.
These are 2 different ways of doing the same thing.
Moderator: Sadhguru, I'm a student from science background.
Most of the religions in this world proclaims that the God has created human beings,
but our evolutionary science is saying that human beings have come from monkeys.
Which one should I believe in?
Sadhguru: What do you feel closer to? (Laughter)
Moderator: Being a human, I think that I have evolved from humans. (Sadhguru laughs)
Sadhguru: See... if you're someone who is on a reverse gear,
then you must choose the first one.
Your religious people telling you, you came from God
because you're going in that direction, better not go in the direction of a monkey.
Go back to God.
But if you’re planning to evolve, then better go with Darwin.
Because... is there room for evolution for you, or are you super evolved already?
I'm asking? Moderator: There is room for evolution.
Sadhguru: There is room for evolution.
If there is room for evolution, that means
there is a possibility that you can become a better man than what you are today.
So, if you're going in forward gear, go with Darwin,
if you're in reverse gear, go with God. (Laughter/Applause)
Yes, because if you want to go on that path,
that needs devotion. Devotion means…
the word “devotion” comes from the word “dissolution.”
You want to dissolve into your object of devotion – whatever it is.
You want to dissolve into it.
So, in a way, it is a way of making yourself less, and less, and less,
so that you become nothing, literally. It’s a wonderful way to live.
It is not sounding good when you speak in language that you want to become less and less.
No. When you become really nothing, you become limitless also.
So, devotion is one way to go.
But you don’t have that, because you’ve gone through little bit of modern education,
and you’re beginning to think logically.
Now if you think logically, naturally you can see
life has evolved on this planet – there’s no question about that.
So, if you want to go forward, you must see: just behind you, is the monkey.
One step backward – you will be right there!
Better you move forward, quickly. (Laughter)
Because some of the scientists are saying today
that the DNA difference between you and a chimpanzee is only 1.23%.
1.23% is not much of a difference, isn’t it? (Laughter)
So, if you're not happy with 1.23%, you must accelerate your evolution.
The entire system of yoga is just this: how to accelerate your evolution;
in every dimension of who you are, how to hasten this process.
Now that you're talking about evolution,
whatever Charles Darwin said, a goat could have become a giraffe,
it took so many millions of years.
A pig could have become an elephant, and it took so many million years.
And a monkey became a man, and it happened rather quickly – to such a point,
anthropologist are saying that there must be a missing link somewhere.
It happened rather very quickly.
So now, if evolution happened,
when you were a monkey you did not desire, “I want to be a human being.”
There's no such desire in you, nature just pushed you on.
It’s just life’s longing – it’s not a conscious thing.
It’s just life’s longing to get better.
From an amoeba to here, just imagine the volume of work that’s been done!
Incredible, isn’t it?
Whatever amount of time it took from a single-celled creature to the human being,
what a tremendous amount of work has been done!
But now you've been rendered in a space where your evolution has to be conscious.
15,000 years ago, over 15,000 years ago, Adiyogi said this.
When his 7 sages asked, his 7 disciples asked this question,
"How did life happen?"
You have heard of the 9 avataras? What are they?
Moderator: Matsya, Kurma, Varaha, Vamana, Narasimha, Parashurama, Krishna, Buddha, Kalki.
(Cheers/Applause)
Sadhguru: So, please look at what he is saying.
This is very much in parallel with what Charles Darwin is saying.
First is fish (Matsya Avatara), next is amphibious turtle,
then he is skipping all the other small forms and coming to the mammals.
The first mammal we're talking about, a boar or a pig,
the hardest animal to kill is always a boar, because it’s so rooted in the body.
Even today, if you behave badly the girls will say, “he's like a pig.”
Yes, or no? (Laughs) So, if something is very crude, you say it’s like a pig.
So, first animal – mammal – is the pig.
What’s next? Narasimha. Narasimha means half-man, half-animal.
Next is Vamana – means a dwarfed man;
next is Parashurama – a full-fledged man, but explosive and uncontrolled, volatile;
next one is Rama – a peaceful man;
next one is Krishna – a loving man, an exuberant man;
next one is Buddha, who is a meditative man;
next one is supposed to be a mystical man.
This is not about those individual people, this is just... these people are being used as milestones.
This is the nature of development of life.
In many ways, this is running parallel to Darwin’s theory of evolution.
Darwin’s theory of evolution is only 152 years old,
Adiyogi spoke about this over 15,000 years ago. (Applause)
And then, naturally, the next question is: can we evolve further?
Because you find right now, when you want to study for your examination,
you wish you had little more brain. Hello?
Does it happen, or no? Participants: Yes.
Sadhguru: So naturally, question “Can I evolve further?”
If a single-celled animal can become this much, can I go further?
So, Adiyogi said this. Modern neurologists are saying the very same thing in a different language.
Adiyogi said, considering the nature of the solar system,
and the arithmetic, the way the planet, the moon, the sun – these 3 are very important,
this is why the entire yogic system is around these 3 aspects.
These 3 have significant roles; unless something fundamental about the solar system changes,
he said your body cannot evolve further, but you can evolve consciously.
When we say we can evolve consciously,
I can show you, or we can take you as an experiment if you're willing.
Moderator: Yes. Sadhguru: Hmm?
We can put you on something, and show you that your very fundamental genetics will change
within a matter of 3 to 9 months by doing certain things with your system.
If you know... if you're willing to give yourself to a certain discipline,
your very genetics can be altered, your level of intelligence can be changed,
the way you experience life can be changed.
So he said, you can evolve consciously, but physically you cannot evolve,
unless something about the planetary system changes.
Modern neurologists are saying something very similar.
So, if you're going forward, choose Darwin;
if you want to go backwards – backwards is not a bad place –
if you want to go backwards, don’t think backwards is a negative thing. No.
If you want to dissolve, you go towards God. If you want to evolve, this is one way.
These are two different ways of doing the same thing. (Applause)