So, if you have any questions about your haplogroups and the
they found other terminal SNPs beyond what 23andMe has found
few more steps down the haplogroups tree which would
311, but that I'm part of haplogroups R-P 312/R
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version 5 he would show up as haplogroup R-P3
I would expect if my father tested with 23andMe
that they are called out. R-L 51. Based on that
and it does show that mutation but when I look at the version
individual SNPs and so the most important thing is not the
more sniffs but haplogroups are really dependent on
than twice as many SNPs as version four. So based on this
is going to be the most accurate just because it has
version three but the best case is actually version five which
all of the no calls. A version 4 has about 150 more SNPs than
four chip. My brothers and my kids all tested with the
version three and the version five chip were all calling the
these SNPs and so we need to take a look at the SNPs that
However, 23andMe has changed their chip over the years and
SNPs that are associated with it, put it in the comments
below and we'll try to answer it for you. Connect with us on
work because how groups are formed with a new mutation it's
we're not adopted. We're actually all descended from my
the first in the R-P311 haplogroups are the
mother and father. Second, maybe me and my brothers are
living DNA test doesn't say I'm part of haplogroups R-P
Living DNA actually test 2000 SNPs on the Y chromosome. My
into this mix of haplogroups the ISOG website indicates that
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defaults back to the parent SNP. Which is the haplogroup
and there's activities available for the whole family
four file for my brother-in-law and my dad and my grandfather,
haplogroups is to have him tested again or to have his son
can only guess and the only way to know for sure whether we
actually share a haplogroups or whether we're different
that maybe me and my brothers are all adopted. However, R
51. What could be going on? First off, One might guess
interesting is my dad and my grandfather are both R-L
that SNP not one of the SNPs that was tested. And so it
version three file, I found that SNP is present and it was
called as that mutation and so that's why it identified me as
A to G RS nine seven eight five six five nine. You don't have
would be the most accurate. Uh first off, from this table
tested, I had built a little bit of a curious tree and you
father, and my brother-in-law all tested with the version
dash Z 220, which is actually as you can see on this tree a
brother-in-law became haplogroup group R-L 51. Now,
indicate that they're actually testing for some more SNPs and
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don't have any information about his father or his son, we
can see it now. I am the darker green slab-tealish almost
and their algorithms and as part of this, they also changed
data for my brothers and my sons, that SNP is also present
right here, you can see that version three actually has the
were tested in each one of these tests to see which one
paper trail for. In 2016, 23 and me updated their website
to remember that and searching through the raw data on my
even thousands of years removed from where we are today and
least amount of SNPs tested especially when you consider
Fanatics where we can interact with you and respond to your
same haplogroups whereas the version four chip was calling a
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tested with the version three chip. My grandfather, my
R-P three eleven. Looking through the version five raw
there's no way that we are the founders of that so there must
not thousands of people throughout the world already so
group. For R-P 311 there is a mutation from
the family. That is at the end of September you can get all
eleven. The same as me, my brothers and my sons. But the
question then is what about my brother-in-law? Well since
different haplogroups and haplogroups are determined by
version five chip. So, right off the bat, you can see the
autosomal DNA matches both my father and my mother's DNA. So,
looking at in those tests now all of us tested at group
number of SNPs but the actual SNP that defines that hapla
information alone, I would actually assume that version 5
almost three times as many SNPs as version three and more
the pesky fact that R-dash P311 is documented by hundreds if
usually just one person that is the founder of that and there's
before. After several other male relatives of my family had
You can see that my three brothers are all R-P three
so each of the test was not the same test. Starting with me, I
be some other explanation to get to the bottom of this we
distantly related from my brother-in-law than I was
actually need to look at what test we took and what they were
color and that is half the group R-P311.
founders of it except that's not how haplogroups usually
YDNA is passed down essentially unchanged for several
community. I became haplogroups R-Pthree 11 and my
the naming convention that they use for haplogroups to what is
see that R-Pthree eleven is actually a descendant of R
if we take a quick look at the Haplogroup tree right here, we
- L51. So, if anything, now I'm even more
eleven as well and my three sons are R-P three eleven.
My brother-in-law is R-L 51 and where it gets
more commonly used throughout the genealogy and the genetics
generations, our nearest common ancestor could be 1hundred or
my ancestry is primarily from England and my brother-in-law's
that's not the kind of thing that we ever hope to find a
ancestry is primarily from Germany, it's entirely likely
R1 B1 B to A1A is not uncommon in Europe. In fact,
most Europeans are one of the R1BA groups. So, even though
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that we are from the same haplogroups. However, because
A1A. I think. Yay. We're practically related or are we
really? Well, before we get into that, let's hear about our
unchanged. We can use them to classify people based on their
paternal or their maternal heritage. After me and my
about your family history, go to the website we list in the
the speakers that you enjoy. So, if you want to learn more
September in Saint George, Utah. This conference has over
brother-in-law had tested at 23andMe, we found out that we
were part of the same haplogroups. R1, B1, B2,
why DNA and mitochondrial DNA are passed down essentially
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segment of DNA. Today, we're looking at haplogroups because
and stop by and say hi to us and now, back to haplogroups.
closely related are you?
comments.
Howdy, I'm Andy Lee with Family History Fanatics and this is a
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