Speaker 1: Joe Rogan continues this sort of like
turning on Donald Trump. Rogan now acknowledged that he believes Donald Trump was regularly on
uppers during his presidency and called him a man baby during a recent show. This is interesting for
a couple of reasons, which I will tell you. Daily Beast reporting Joe Rogan calls Trump a drugged
out man baby. The Mega-Popular podcaster laughed at Trump's inability to focus on anything but
himself in his latest episode. Trump and Rogan now in, I guess, what we would call a feud. And
Rogan suggesting that Trump's energy comes from Adderall, called the man baby. This was during
a conversation with comedian and frequent guest Tom Segura. Let's take a look at this and I'll
tell you why it's interesting in a moment, more. Speaker 2: About that guy is that, you know,
I'm saying even when you when you watch him as president, he was full of energy, full of
it every day. And they said he slipped like 4 hours a night. One of those people on Adderall,
God did. He's on Adderall. Yes, I do. Only because there were multiple people who
used to work on The Apprentice that were like he was gassed up for shoots. Really? Yeah. Because he
has trouble reading it, doesn't he? He would trouble he would struggle to read prompter
or script when he was just, let's say, sober. So they would give him that and he would dial in more
on reading cause he gets he gets very bored. They said, you know, he was he would get bored
at the CIA briefing in the mornings. He like I don't want to read that there is a daily briefing
you get as president. He's like you, fine. Read it and then tell me and if it's boring. So they would
have to make it more engaging for him because he would I would put his name in briefings
multiple times to keep him interested. And then Kushner, you know, his son in law, said that
he came up with a formula to keep him engaged. Speaker 1: This is called the bad news sandwich.
It's often done in a lot of venues. Speaker 2: Yes. Because, you know,
he obviously was close to him and knew him well. And the formula was like the two good,
one bad. So they were going to give him bad news. Like he'd go, You start with some good
news. So they go, This is going well. Everybody is thrilled with you about this. Here's a bad thing.
Also, people love you for this. So that's how you that's how they would tell him bad
news. They couldn't just get a bunch of bad. Of course. Yeah. He's a man,
baby. He's a toddler. Yeah, he's a toddler. Speaker 1: So there's two things here,
and I think that they're both important to mention. Number one, whatever you think about
Joe Rogan and I have been very hard on Rogan. We've done at this point what, 20 different
critiques of things Rogan has done. And when that Rogan does something good, we will praise
it as well. There's no ideological or emotional attachment to it or whatever the case may be.
Rogan's got a lot of Trump supporters in his audience, and some of them are the kind of
they play that they're enlightened centrists. Sometimes they even claim to read books. They
often don't, but they claim to. And a lot of them support Trump, but they don't openly and brazenly
do it. But they do. At the end of the day, they go, Well, yeah, I mean, I voted for Trump because
I decided at the end of the day, this, that, the other thing, it is important and it is impactful,
particularly when the reports are Trump's going to announce his 2020 for president candidacy for
president for the primary anyway very soon. It is important that the culturally conservative
audience of Rogan not everybody I know there's liberals who listen to Rogan. I watch some
episode. Sometimes the culturally conservative people in Rogan's audience start to see
that alpha male Rogan is laughing at Trump. Man, baby. Not a particularly alpha thing
to call a guy, right? It's quite beda. In fact, by their nomenclature and standards,
that's a good thing. And it's a good thing for people in Rogan's audience to see that.
The problem is Rogan supports Ron DeSantis for 2024 at least. He said
he likes the Sanders. He vote for him like some. I forget the exact wording, but it was
almost an endorsement but saying he would be a great president. So one element is simply assuming
that this isn't all deliberate in order to prop up DeSantis as a calculated thing. Maybe it is,
maybe it is. But even if it's not that the criticism is all contextualized by
Rogan, like DeSantis, who's like an even more dangerous Donald Trump. So is this a good thing
in the net or not? Is this sort of like a de facto offense for DeSantis? I don't know. Trading Trump
for DeSantis as president. If you said to me either Trump or DeSantis will be president,
who do you want it to be? I think Trump's less dangerous because although he's dumber, he gets
less done. He's so unorganized and he's so caught up in nonsense that I think he gets less done. Um,
so it's. If Rogan can disabuse Trump. Guests are following Trump and supporting Trump. Great.
And if he can do it in a way that feels like that better. TRUMP Now I'm Alpha,
I'm with ROGAN Whatever, whatever it takes right to do to disabuse them of those
beliefs. But if it leads to DeSantis being the next president or the nominee,
then we've got some real problems. And I don't know the answer. I don't know where it's going