welcome back back with another video
here of some wet stones and diamond
plates here so on my left I've got the
best to 1200 and am i right
I have the automa 1200 so why the
comparison between these two stones well
I've had a number of people ask me if
they should use if they can use a
diamond stone in the lower group range
like the 1400 great replacements of a
whetstone and so before I answer that
question I want to talk about really
Holly stones feel and some of the
similarities and the differences that I
have experience sharpening on them so
let's start with the Buster 1200 now the
best of 1200 is a stone that universally
everyone loves it's a good soaking stone
I find that it needs a really good
soaking time of like at least an hour to
really get a aggressive positive feeling
stone okay and in under an hour I feel
like this stone is too thirsty and it
soaks up so much water as you're
sharpening and it kind of gets dry
halfway through the sharpen process if
you guys don't constantly throw water on
it okay but in terms of a polish of hour
or scratch pattern the scratch pattern
on this on this stone is actually very
close to a true 1200 grit finish I would
say it is a true a true 12 and a great
finish it's very fine it doesn't leave
any sort of it consistencies on your on
your edge it it leaves a pretty good
near leaves a very good edge and overall
in the stone have you guys have seen
I've done I don't know how many videos
on this one stone but lots I just go and
search pester 1200 on my channel and you
guys will see like a dozen videos come
up but the hand tactile feel excellent
very good good feedback good cutting
stone it takes about I would say four
passes to get a burr on one side and
three passes on the second side so it's
a mediums it's a fast medium cutting
stone okay and the polish excellent
polish I have no complaints in the way
that the knife actually looks when I'm
done with this stone but then you know
when I when I was getting questions
about the Otomo 1200 you know I was like
well I've actually never used never
considered using a diamond stone as a 12
as a kind of a medium sharpening stone i
I've always
to them as a stone you used to flatten
your wet stones with or as a coarse
fixing stone to fix your chips and
scratches or bevels on a knife I've
actually never thought it and thought to
use it as the you know as a 1000 where I
say all right well let's just try it so
I went and my buddy you can has these
dual sided stones which are really
really cool so this one here is a 1200
and a 400 stone and definitely cheaper
than buying two stones individual in
case of you guys were looking for a
diamond plate stone and you want to
grits this is awesome anyway what I did
was I sharpened this knife well at three
sides I've went three passes on each
side and I mean it's shockingly the 1200
diamond is extremely fine it you know
I've always experienced Diamond stones
are much much rougher than they're what
stone counterparts in this case though
this is I would say just as fine as a
better 1200 okay in absolute terms I
would say it might be five or maybe ten
percent less fine
but man it really is a twelve thousand
grit 1200 in the twelve thousand it
really is a 1200 grit finish I mean when
I if I told you if I didn't tell you
which knife was sharpened by which stone
you would have a really hard time
deciphering and trying to figure out
which stone was actually sharpen used to
sharpen in which life they are that
close in terms of scratch pattern and
the speed of the diamond plates are so
much faster than any whetstone out there
okay in actual practice if you guys if I
didn't do the three pass minimum on each
side I would say two passes minimum on
each side or maximum on each side and
your you're ready to go that's how fast
these you know these are choice era
speeds actually even faster than choice
eras in terms of sharpness edge
sharpness I will show you guys in a
minute
they are quite sharp you can get a
diamond 1200 grit stone a plate sharpen
just as well as any 1200 grit whetstone
okay and I'll prove a point in a little
bit
but here's the here's really the final
say in this in this assessment was my my
question was could this 1200 replace a
1000 or 1200 Japanese whetstone it
really can that's the thing that's a
shocker is like yes you can you actually
can take this stone and use it as a
stone to fix minor chips we bevel your
knife and even replace that 1000 grit
stone and it can also be used to flatten
your higher grit stones at your 3000 to
5000 through 8,000 s whatever it is that
you have to use this is the true
multi-purpose stone which I find myself
shocked to say is like I'm naturally now
considering getting rid of my trasero
800 my Suresh 1000 my best or 1200 in my
Arashi yama 1000 and just keep this one
stone because it is that good as a 1200
grit stone and I'm going to get a lot of
people kind of writing me and giving me
flak over saying that but I'm just
saying okay I'm just saying it's it's
actually that good of a stone this is
especially good for those who are
looking to kind of downsize and only
have two stones where let's say you can
have this stone and it's 6,000 or 8,000
grit stone or for someone who's new
who's just getting into knives you don't
have to worry about the 400 grit Stones
the 500 600 stones and you oh and you
don't have to worry about a stone
flattener because this will be your
fighting stone for your high grit stone
and this will never dish you know so
it's a really good stove for that I
really enjoyed the stone and so now you
know over the next few videos you guys
might see me not use my 1000 great
stones anymore you might be seeing me
using this at home plate as my medium
coarse stone so that's very very
possible at this point
but that's you know that's not to say
that it's a better stone it's just
different and I'm a very minimalist guy
I like to minimize what I use and if I
can just have two stones that does
everything I need needs to do that is
really good option but for those who
actually want a better get the best ur
you know or CRX or whatever else out
there you know the internal plates do
cost a lot of money you know they are
I think retail they're like hundred
fifty for the plate for the 12-under
grid plate depending away you guys buy
I've seen them as low as like 80 bucks
something like that you can have someone
sale for a little less you guys can
check them out I'll post a link because
what that website down below in the
description but you know I mean they're
really cool I really enjoy I was
actually unpleasantly surprised at how
well they 1200 performed I thought it
was going to perform more like a 600 or
800 grit stone relevant equivalent to a
Japanese restaurant but no this this
1200 grit a diamond plate really does
perform like a 1000 or 1200 grit
Japanese whetstone soaking wet stone so
that's the bombshell it's a really good
bombshell I'm quite surprised if you
guys want to see the shopping video of
the 1200 click here if you guys want to
see the sharpening of the 1200 no it's
what the box for hundreds I forgot if
you want to see the sharpening 1200
Wester if you want to see the 1200
automa click here and you have to see
for yourselves and you guys can see at
the end I post photos and video of both
of them and they look I mean like I said
they are virtually identical and you
have to really be nitpicking to tell you
know to be able to tell which one is
actually which so if you have used to
1200 grit automa let me know what you
think I'm really curious as to what you
guys actually think but yeah that is it
for this video I've said too much
already
thank you guys for watching and I will
catch you in the next video ooh I almost
forgot we should do a cut test okay as
you haven't had a chance to cut them yet
but all I did was drop in them on their
perspective stones and I did some simple
strapping on some newspaper so that's
all it is and so let's see alright so as
you guys know I don't have very good
news around the house but this is really
dries crispy and crinkly so we'll do a
quick test here this is a knife
sharpened by the automa 1200
that is sharp this is a push cut see
push cutting right here that's how sharp
this knife is and that's that's it
nothing else okay just some newspaper
shopping I'm like 15 strokes per side
back and forth it's a really bad crinkle
there yeah I mean if you guys are
doubting how well this knife can cut
with the automa I mean that is the
automa so this is the best at 1200 yes
here's a really rough spots right now
but yeah I mean like this is me you can
feather both knives or equally sharp
yeah this is really bad news paper I
shouldn't be doing it like this playboy
let's push cutting in both these labs a
razor razor sharp as you guys can see
and this is a really bad example of
newspaper for me to cut but it works but
anyway this that's just a you know that
shows you how good the automa can
actually sharpen and you know if you
guys were considering this stone it's
it's awesome go get it
like I said I'm not really considering
replacing all my under all my sub 1200
stones with this one guy right here so
it might really happen I know I'm just
saying that but I really think I really
think you can whether or not I'll do it
I don't know for sure but yeah so anyway
so that's it see ya
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