The startling conclusion is this. Even an agreed upon complete lack
of evidence could not stop President Trump Mark Meadows and their
allies from trying to overturn
The results of a free and fair election. So let's return to that
meeting at the White House on the evening of December 18 that night,
a group showed up at the White House, including Sidney Powell.
Retired Lieutenant General Michael Flynn and former Overstock dot
com CEO Patrick Byrne.
After gaining access to the building from a junior White House staffer.
The group made their way to the Oval Office, They were able to speak
with the president by himself for some time until White House officials
learned of the meeting.
What ensued was a heated and profane clash between this group and
President Trump's White House advisers who traded personal insults,
accusations of disloyalty to the president and even challenges to
physically fight.
The meeting would last over six hours, beginning here in the Oval
Office, moving around the West wing in many hours later ending up
in the president's private residence.
The select Committee has spoken with six of the participants as well
as staffers who could hear the screaming from outside the Oval Office.
What took place next is best told in their own words.
As you will see from this video.
Do you believe that it was going to work that you're gonna be able
to get to see the president without an appointment?
I didn't know idea.
In fact, he did get to see the president without an appointment.
We did. How much time did you have along with the president and I
say alone, you had other people with you, but right from his aides
before the crowd came running.
Probably no more than 10 or 15 minutes.
Was in that that that simple only said a new land speed record. I
got to install.
Either from Mali.
Harris fortunate, but I need to get to know block. This was the first
point that I had recognized.
Okay, There was nobody in there from the White House. Mark's gone.
What's going on right now in the door and I walked in. I saw general
plan. I saw Sidney Powell sitting there.
I was not happy to see the people in the Oval Office Black
Yeah, I don't think they would providing
Well, first of all.
Overstocked person I've never never
was Actually the first thing I did. I walked in. I looked at him
and I said, Who are you?
And he told me I don't think I don't think any of these people were
providing the president with good advice.
Yeah.
So I didn't understand how they had gotten in.
In the short period of time that you had with the president. He seemed
receptive to the presentation that you were making.
He was very interested in hearing particularly about the finding
and the terms of 1384 a that apparently, nobody else has bothered
to inform him of
I was asking you to claim the Democrats were working with Hugo Chavez,
please Venezuelans and whoever else and at one point
General Flynn took out a diagram that supposedly showed
I was all over the world.
And I speak who was who was communicating with whom? Via the machines
and some comment about like nest thermostats being hooked up to the
Internet.
So it's been reported that during this meeting with Powell talked
about Dominion voting machines and made various election fraud claims
that involve foreign countries such as Venezuela, Iran and China.
Is that accurate.
That's fair.
Was the meeting tense.
Oh, yeah. Uh,
It was not a casual meeting.
Explain.
I mean, at times there were people shouting at each other.
Hurling insults at each other.
Um
It wasn't just sort of people sitting around on the couch like chit
chatting. You recall whether he raised to Miss Powell the fact that
she and the campaign had lost all of the 16 cases that they had brought
in litigation.
Yes, he raised that
response.
Which is
I don't think it was a good response. Hirschmann and, um, whoever
the other guy was showed nothing but contempt. And this Dane of the
president
The three of them were really sort of forcefully.
Attacking
Me that thoroughly. Um
Direct Eric and we were pushing back and grasping one simple question.
As a as a general matter.
Where is the evidence?
So what response did you get? When you ask this panel and her colleagues
where
is based on my current recollection, including, you know
Can't believe you would say something like you know things like this.
Like, what do you mean? Where is the evidence? You should know. You
know things like that, or
Example.
I disregard. I would say, general disregard for the importance of
actually backing up, say with facts, and, you know, then there was
discussion of. Well, you know, we don't have it now, but we'll have
it or whatever.
I mean, if if it had been me sitting in his chair of fired all of
them that night and had escorted out of the building
both challenge what she was saying.
And
She says. Well, the judges are corrupt and that was like everyone.
Every single case that you've done in the country. You guys lost.
Every one of them is corrupt. Even the ones we appointed.
And what's
Being nice. That was much more harsh to her. One of the other things
that's been reported that was said during this meeting was that President
Trump told White House lawyers, Mr Hirschmann and Mr Sip Aloni that
They weren't offering him any solutions. But Miss Powell and others
were so why not try what Ms Powell and others were proposing? Do
you remember anything along those lines being said by President Trump.
They do. That sounds right. I think that it got to the point where
the screaming was
Completely.
Completely out there. When you get people walk in, it was late at
night had been a long day and what they were proposing.
I thought was nuts.
I'm getting. I'm getting categorically describe it as
You guys are not tough enough.
Or maybe put it another way. You're a bunch of pussy's
Excuse the expression, but that that's why
Almost certain the word with used Flint screamed at me that I was
a quitter and everything gets standing up and turning around screaming
at me.
In a certain point, I had it with him.
So
Yell back.
Better come over.
Sit your F in as back down, the president and the White House team
went up stairs.
To the residents.
But to the, uh
Public part of the residents. You know, the big the big baller where
you can have meetings in the conference room over the Yellow oval?
Yes, exactly the yellow over office.
I always called it The upper
Um
And I'm not exactly sure where the Sydney Group went. I think maybe
the Roosevelt Room.
And I stayed in the Cabinet room, which is kind of cool. I really
like that
myself.
At the end of the day, we landed where we started the meeting, at
least from a structural standpoint, which was
Sydney Powell was fighting Mike Flynn was fighting they were looking
for avenues that would
Enable
That would result in
President Trump remaining
President Trump for a second term.
The meeting finally ended after midnight.
Here or text messages sent by Cassidy Hutchinson during and after
the meeting.
Is you can see.
Miss Hutchinson reported that the meeting in the West Wing was unhinged.
The meeting finally broke up after midnight during the early morning
of December. 19 Cassidy Hutchinson captured the moment.
Of Mark Meadows, escorting Rudy Giuliani off the White House grounds
to quote make sure he didn't wander back into the mansion.
Certain accounts of this meeting indicate that President Trump actually
granted Ms Palace security clearance and appointed her to a somewhat
ill defined position of special counsel.
He asked Pat the Bologna. He had the authority to name me special
counsel and he said yes.
And then he asked him if he had the authority to give me whatever
security clearance and needed and that's simple and he said yes.
And then the president said, Okay, you know, I'm naming her of that.
And I'm giving her security clearance. And then shortly before we
left and totally blew up this one simple Ania and or Hirschmann and
whoever the other young man was
Said. You can name her whatever you want to name her, and no one
is going to pay any attention to it.
How did he respond to the president? Respond to that?
Uh, something like you see what I deal with. I deal with this all
the time.
Over the ensuing days, No further steps were taken to a point Sydney
power, But there is some ambiguity about what the president actually
said and did during the meeting. Here is how Patsy Bologna described
it.
I don't know what her understanding of
Whether she had been appointed what she had been appointed to. Okay.
In my view, she had been appointed anything and ultimately wasn't
reported anything because there had to be other steps taken.
That was my view. When I left the meeting that she may have a different
view and others we have a different view and the president any steps
taken, including the president himself.
Telling her she's been appointed
again. I'm not gonna get into what the president said in meeting.
You know, my recollection is you're not appointed even
Appointed to until steps are taken the paperwork done and when I
left the meeting, okay?
I guess I guess what I'm trying to say is
I'm not gonna get into what the president said.
One Mr Sibling
when, um the matter continue to clear up over the next several days.
Was it your understanding that Sidney Powell was still seeking an
appointment for that she was asserting that she had been appointed.
By the president, December 18 minutes.
You know, now that you mentioned it, probably both.
You know, in terms of like, I think she was. I think she may have
been of the view that she had pointed and was seeking to
Get that done
and
In in that she should be.
As you listen to these clips. Remember that Miss Powell, The person
who President Trump tried to make special counsel was ordinarily
sanctioned by a federal court and sued by Dominion voting systems.
For defamation.
In her own defense To that lawsuit, Sidney Powell argued that quote
no reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly
statements of fact.
Not long after Sidney Powell, General Flynn and Rudy Giuliani, Giuliani
left the White House in the early hours of the morning, President
Trump turned away from both his outside advisers, most outlandish
and unworkable schemes.
And his White House counsel's advice to swallow hard and accept the