just 20 years back I've started feeling
that it's not this some kind of division
which is being created
okay there's some kind of talk happening
with inside and outside all of us have
you know our highs and lows you know
emotionally so Sun was no different no I
don't think I'm isolated as there I
don't think I am as intelligent and as
bright as we used to be and I don't
think I have achieved anything that's it
we need to be of uh deferred what he had
achieved as compared to visit you should
really make it healthy industry where
you know cities serve no cooling down
and politics and you know criticizing
behind the back and celebrating
somebody's failure all of that
they have always classified people as
stars and actors but there's one person
who's transcended all those labels from
the time he started today I have
somebody who I've loved watching on
screen since the time I was a child and
I still love watching him on screen
welcoming Manoj Bajpai in conversation
with Bing Villa how are you
first thing quite objetivo there is a
certain of distinction that is always
made between a star and an actor do you
think with the change of audience's
perspective today that change is also
coming at the outlook towards actors
like you a punker slippery nawazuddin
siddiqui Irfan Khan were known as
terrific performance using the outlook
as also change because you are stars in
your own right I know even becomes a
star you needed to have some kind of a
charm charisma dancing ability you know
they used to mention acting
something did they mention the word
acting so yeah from that time till this
time so fantastically in my thinking you
know when I watch the trailer of votes
me something that appeals to me and the
and the underlying message there are two
underlying message that I could take up
one is very important which i think is
inclusivity a lot of we are a country
which speak several languages has
several mother tongue so to say not you
know till there is a sense of
distinction between tape between people
that is meted out up you come from Bihar
how much of a distinction did you face
when you moved to Bombay being a you
know being a being a small town guy with
big dreams to achieve I mean really
taking each and every one coming
anyway that's the beautiful beautiful
part of just the you know the local
versus magnet thing ecstatic happening
later on and that was quite
uncomfortable for but for any of the
magnets like me for many of the even
further well for many of the locals were
were quite liberal in their attitude who
was not regional I thought they were all
of us were wondering as to what's
happening in the society by having being
divided on the lines of regions and
religions you know so it was a it was a
time of flow not that people were hurt
because of some you know some number of
people interested and also you know
people did I why we we have one nation
you know why this is happening divided
happening so much of this was happening
also I want to know that you know as
actors like you said Bombay might have
been very receptive of people of course
it's been receptive of me also because I
also don't belong to Bombay but the
industry can be a place where you get
stereotyped because of where you come
from
has that ever happened to you that must
have happened to you see 21:23 is back
subjective that time nobody was talking
about you know it was inside house
because since years since the beginning
of war in this cinema people have come
from all set people I come home I smoked
one and they have done so well such
legendary you know names Bob is people I
mean just 20 as bad I started giving
that it's not this some kind of division
which is being created okay there's some
in kind of talk happening who is inside
and without side
tack that's a very lease in Dublin just
big dick its back yeah and I was telling
somebody invited to do that it's not in
the h1 phenomena don't mr. Raj Kapoor he
was the son of the good idea who it was
never Rasheed he was son of mr. Raj
Kapoor
but it was never a talk yeah every actor
no matter how much smaller of baby they
were they were all considered a part of
the industry of the fraternity just
since 20 years back
few people know I still keep hearing
it's a lobby and that I never had to
come face to face the kind of things
that I do you know in they don't make it
yeah the kind of directors that I work
they themselves are either new or the
people who are completely dependent on
things I starting to make a name from
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the thick of the fraternity that they
talk about we were always on the fringe
so my whole thought was who might think
my own be a victim
I think Ghana has big time when you talk
about people from the heart like you
said that there are many people from
this thing well there are also many
people can be hard to have made the
country proud in different fields if we
talk about Bollywood
of course is view and I and we had our
friend sushant singh rajput who was also
from Bihar and making everybody proud
I remember having this conversation with
you I had gone on the set of family man
if you remember one and we had spoken
and your film was coming out and yet
showed me some clips and you had told me
that souchong has got an intelligent man
that his mind is his biggest friend and
his worst enemy today that line can be
nice and true
you know because of what has happened
hmm how do you remember him today all of
us have you know our eyes and nose
you know emotion
Shampoo is no different no I don't think
I'm a stallion to dance there
I don't think I am as intelligent and as
bright as we used to be and I don't
think I have achieved anything that's it
we get to the age of 34 what he has
achieved as compared to his achievements
I feel my I feel that an atom by
achievements with a base much you know
so that's how I remember it
I good human being but also I remember
him somebody who came from Patna and and
he carried the rootedness you know with
all the dancing ability with all the
coolness and charming visible smile it
was a small-town guy you know inside it
was in a small town but now boy inside
you attack ice usually fight regardless
when we talk about nepotism sir it also
is a lot on the audience because the
audience
do you agree with you know muddled up
because of other reasons not because of
anything else not because of the actors
is it got muddled up people's into the
dark points first we have to correct
ourself big as an industry first we have
to rectify ourselves you know to be able
to question the audience okay
it's very difficult I mean how all this
is going to see a film it modeled by
Facebook we are saying he's taken off
after 5 years or 60 or 70
in fact alternately first we will have
to correct our system first we correct
ourselves first we look inward and and
think very seriously as to what are the
problems that we have and after you know
working on that then definitely we'll
ask the question from the audience
definitely but when they see that that
moment I feel of so successful you know
one of us will take many years to reach
many so you can't compare it you know
you can't affect our success with
anybody assess who's gotten lucky for
whatever reason okay so you really can't
but we we how can you help the industry
you know individually what I do
individually without anybody asking me
people you know much before this whole
thing happened was before this debate
started happening the habit of mine is
when I see a talent for total at I
encouraged enough I think we should stop
which is we should start using our
privileges healthy who have talents make
talent feel that you're welcome make
chemical industry feel that all of us
are one for technically it can't be
inside now sir who started this this ask
that question who started this will have
to ask this question ourselves you know
when we talk about these kind of things
that are happening and that are
prevalent in the industry especially
when we talk about privilege and the
benefits that come of it it has been
happening like you said for a really
long time but with this suddenly it has
come out like the industry's power
dynamics have been exposed to the
current audience like I know of people
who are huge fans of certain actors who
have taken a stand saying that we might
not go to the I don't know if it will
last but at this point
Bobo Teaneck hahaha
jumpin low normal or gold rake in a him
agenda he baked my hobby water because
of what do you think that this this
correction with the cleansing of the
industry was bound to happen was much
needed also I mean not on has also given
people to look at things very clearly
and analyzing and they definitely there
is a correction connection I I
personally feel that in we should really
make it healthy industry where you know
there is no cooling down and politics
and you know criticizing behind the back
and celebrating somebody's baby all of
that no it should go this is not a mark
of a of a healthy dust it is not you
know once that once we start working on
ourselves intimately the industrial you
know be a better engine us yeah but I
mean happiness started a because
otherwise what will happen the anger
will keep on coming up you know keep on
coming up you keep on getting questioned
it's better that you start working
yourself like also you know the media
has a really big role to play being a
part of the media I'm saying it I really
liked how you took a stand against the
kind of tamasha that is being created
around his debt also a certain section
of the media is doing that you think
that a lot of things that are being said
at this point I've spoken to a few
people who are saying how the family is
getting affected do you think that
privacy has become a point of concern of
this I really feel that you know leave
them alone on this know how this data is
a destination of warning in die ok
before you know what is after the
just before the chopper you started
getting into this kind of work my
character getting such a mess bill so
shameful so much shame this is not we
are as a country this is not I don't
know I said it in my injury is some fool
than you started with in us that is
missile you know and that is where all
the problem lies we have become so
selfish
so clean so so so you know we have
filled with so much poison you forgot
everything all the value the name of
being competitive in detective you know
this is good all the best for this show
and I'm going to message you once I see
the show I didn't love the trailer and
like I said I've grown up watching you
and loving you and that continues please
take care of yourself and thank you for
doing this thank you good