WELCOME
WELCOME BACK, EVERYONE. THE BACKLASH CONTINUES TO
SPREAD ALL THE WAY THE COLLEGE
ADMISSION BRIBERY SCANDAL.
EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IT.
TO CATCH YOU UP AND GET YOU
HAVEN'T HEARD, ACTRESS LORI
LOUGHLIN AND HER HUSBAND WERE
CHARGED OFFICIALLY YESTERDAY
AND IT THEIR DAUGHTER THAT SEEMS
TO BE TAKING THE HEAT.
SHORTLY AFTER THE STORY BROKE
YOU SEE HER DAUGHTER, OLIVIA.
SHE HAS 1.3 MILLION FOLLOWERS
ON INSTAGRAM AND ALMOST 2
MILLION ON YOUTUBE.
THE CRITICISM BEGAN AND THEN
SOME.
SOME.
SOME. SOME ARE CALLING FOR THE BEAUTY
BRAND SEPHORA TWO AND THEIR
PARTNER, TO END THEIR
PARTNERSHIP WITH HER.
IS THIS FAIR?
THIS IS TOO GOOD TO NOT
CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION WITH
SOME INFLUENCERS.
SOME INFLUENCERS. WE HAVE CARA KNEER BACK AND
THIS LIFESTYLE INFLUENCE ARE,
MATTIE JAMES AND ADVOCATE FOR
TEACHERS EVERYWHERE, HANK
DENSON.
DENSON.
DENSON. >> AFTER THE SHOW WE WERE
TALKING AND WE SAID THIS
CONVERSATION HAS TO CONTINUE.
ESPECIALLY WITH YOU, WITH SUCH
GREAT MEDIA PRESENCE AS AN
INFLUENCER.
INFLUENCER. THE QUESTION IS, THIS GIRL IS
TAKING A LOT OF HEAT AND PEOPLE
ARE GOING AFTER HER.
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. LET'S BACK IT UP A MINUTE.
ARE YOU SURPRISED WHEN
EVERYTHING CAME OUT AND YOU
HURT THIS STORY? NO, NOT AT
ALL.
ALL.
ALL. >>
ALL. >> NOT EVEN TO THE EXTENT OF
WHAT WAS REALLY HAPPENING?
YOU MEAN HOW MUCH MONEY?
>> THE LIES AND THE BRIBERY.
>> NO, NOT AT ALL.
>> IT'S BASED ON NETWORKING.
YOU PUT YOUR KID IN A PLACE TO
NETWORK.
NETWORK.
NETWORK. >> I TAKE A LOT OF MONEY FOR
SOCCER FOR MY DAUGHTER TO BE A
COLLEGE.
COLLEGE.
COLLEGE. I DIDN'T SPEND HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS BUT I SPENT THIS
MONEY BECAUSE I BELIEVED IT
WOULD ALLOW HER TO BE AROUND A
GROUP OF KIDS THAT WOULD
INFLUENCER.
INFLUENCER. SHE'S GOT IN AT EIGHT D1 SCHOOL.
THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T GO TO D2
OR D3.
OR D3.
OR D3. YOU INFLUENCE THE KIDS.
I KNEW IT FROM WHEN SHE WAS
YOUNGER AND THEY WOULD PULL UP
IN RANGE ROVER'S IN SANDY
SPRINGS.
SPRINGS.
SPRINGS. >> DID YOU DOING IN THE RIGHT
WAY?
WAY?
WAY? >>
WAY? >> THE THING IS, YOU ARE STILL
PUSHING YOUR KID.
THEY ARE BLAMING HER.
HER PARENTS DID IT.
>> MATTIE?
>> MATTIE? >> THIS IS A STICKY SITUATION
BECAUSE HER PARENTS DID IT.
IT'S LIKE, WHAT DO YOU DO?
AT THE END OF THE DAY I THINK
SHE IS CAUGHT IN THE CROSSFIRE.
AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS
WHAT IT IS.
HER PARENTS MADE THE WRONG
CHOICE.
CHOICE.
CHOICE. WHETHER YOU KNEW OR NOT.
THE ISSUE IS THAT
COINCIDENTALLY SHE PUT OUT A
VIDEO TALKING ABOUT HOW SHE
WOULD RATHER BE FILMING THAT BE
IN SCHOOL.
IN SCHOOL. THIS IS WHERE THINGS GET UGLY
BECAUSE HER PARENTS MADE THIS
DECISION.
DECISION.
DECISION. THEN YOU ARE SAYING THESE NOT
AWESOME THINGS.
AWESOME THINGS. EVEN IF YOU WOULD RATHER DO
THAT, THE TIMING IS
UNFORTUNATE.
UNFORTUNATE. >> YES, UNFORTUNATE.
>> CARA, DO YOU THINK SHE'S
CULPABLE ? IT'S GOING TO COME
OUT HOW MUCH THE KIDS KNEW.
>> I DON'T LIKE THE INTERNET
CULTURE OF PILING ON SOMEONE,
ESPECIALLY A YOUNGER PERSON.
I HATE THE COMMENTS AND VITRIOL
PEOPLE DO BEHIND THE COMPUTER
SCREEN.
SCREEN.
SCREEN. BUT LET'S BE REAL.
SHE LOOKS LIKE AN ENTITLED
SPOILED RAT.
SPOILED RAT. SHE'S NOT HELPING HER CASE.
MAYBE THAT'S NOT WHO SHE IS BUT
IT LOOKS LIKE IT.
>> WITH THESE KIDS IS DIFFERENT.
YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IT
SOMETIMES.
SOMETIMES. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU ARE
ENTITLING YOUR KIDS.
YOU JUST THINK YOU ARE GIVING
THEM OPPORTUNITIES YOU DIDN'T
GET.
GET.
GET. WE
GET. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE
BARBERSHOP.
BARBERSHOP. YOU ARE DOING STUFF OUR PARENTS
DIDN'T DO.
DIDN'T DO. YOU DON'T KNOW.
BECAUSE YOUR KID TREATS A
CERTAIN KIND OF WATER OR HAS
THEIR OWN ROOM, THIS IS THE
KIND OF STUFF YOU DIDN'T HAVE.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE
CREATING.
CREATING.
CREATING. >> YES, HOW DO YOU MAKE THEM
STRUGGLE BUT NOT MAKE THEM
STRUGGLE?
STRUGGLE?
STRUGGLE? >> YES, IT'S A HARD THING.
>> THIS LADY TOOK AWAY MY
CHIPOTLE.
CHIPOTLE.
CHIPOTLE. >> I DIDN'T KNOW CHIPOTLE WAS
--
--
-- >>
-- >> BUT
-- >> BUT WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE
LINE?
LINE?
LINE? WE
LINE? WE TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE
TIME.
TIME.
TIME. OUR
TIME. OUR SUCCESSES COME FROM OUR
FAILURES AND MAKE US THE PEOPLE
WE ARE.
WE ARE.
WE ARE. WE CAN HARKEN BACK TO THE
MOMENTS IN OUR PAST THAT WERE
DEFINING MOMENTS OF FAILURE, A
AND ABJECT SADNESS AND DESPAIR.
YOU LOOK BACK AND SAY LOOK WHAT
I GOT THROUGH.
I GET IT WE WANT TO DO THE
RIGHT THING.
RIGHT THING. >> LET'S ALSO BE CLEAR AND
TRANSPARENT.
TRANSPARENT. THESE PARENTS KNEW THAT THIS
WAS NOT RIGHT.
>> IT'S ONE THING TO SAY YOU
WANT YOUR KIDS TO DO WELL BUT
ONCE YOU START TO MAKE THIS
DECISION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT MORALS
OR REALITY BUT IT'S LIKE A,
THINGS ARE ILLEGAL TO PUT YOUR
KID IN THE RIGHT PLACE, NOT
ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO FACE THOSE
CONSEQUENCES BUT YOUR CHILDREN
INEVITABLY WILL, TOO.
>> DO YOU THINK THIS WILL
IMPACT HER AND SHOULD IT?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
WHEN PEOPLE GET HOT ON
SOMETHING AND THEY FORGET IT.
A B SHE CAN'T RIDE THAT WAY.
MONEY TALKS.
MONEY TALKS. IF SHE LOSES HER ADVERTISERS,
THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE A
PROBLEM.
PROBLEM.
PROBLEM. >> WHETHER IT IS NEGATIVE OR
NOT SHE WILL BE KNOWN AS THE
GIRL WHO DID THIS.
SHE ALREADY HAS NUMBERS.
YOU CAN'T CHANGE WHAT YOU HAVE
IN NUMBERS.
IN NUMBERS. NOW PEOPLE ARE WATCHING MORE.
NOW HER NUMBERS HAVE JUMPED AND
NOW SOMEBODY WILL PICK HER UP.
YOU WANT REALLY CATCHING -- A
LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LOSE
SPONSORSHIP GET IT ON ANOTHER
ANGLE.
ANGLE.
ANGLE. >>
ANGLE. >> I THINK SHE WILL END UP
LOSING SEPHORA.
LOSING SEPHORA. I THINK SHE WILL GET IT BACK IN
A 6-12 MONTH WINDOW.
SHE WILL GET A BUMP IN HER
PERSONAL NUMBERS BUT THE
CORPORATE CHECKS ARE GOING
GOODBYE.
GOODBYE.
GOODBYE. >> I THINK SO, TOO.
>> MATTIE , COME ON.
>> DON'T HAVE ME ON THE PANEL.
>> WHAT ABOUT US?
>> THERE IS ROOM FOR ALL OF US.
>> HOW ABOUT SOME SORT OF
SCISSORS BRAND.
SCISSORS BRAND. >> HOW ABOUT BODY SPRAYS AND
LOTIONS?
LOTIONS?
LOTIONS? >> CARA, -- SHOULD SHE BE
EXPELLED? PEOPLE ARE TALKING
ABOUT THIS.
ABOUT THIS. PAYING THE PRICE FOR THIS,
GETTING EXPELLED.
GETTING EXPELLED. WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> I DON'T SEE HOW THERE IS A
WAY THAT THE KIDS DIDN'T KNOW.
>> YES, IF YOU DIDN'T TAKE YOUR
SAT YOU WOULD KNOW.
YOU WERE THERE YOU WEREN'T.
>> EXPELLED?
>> EXPELLED? >> I DON'T KNOW.
>> YOU STILL GOTTA DO THE WORK.
>> WHAT IF THEY ARE PAYING FOR
THEM TO GET IN.
WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD THEY ARE
PAYING FOR --
>> WHAT ABOUT BUYING A LIBRARY?
YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.
>> THERE IS EVEN A LEGAL WAY TO
PAY IT OFF CALLED THE LEGACY
ADMISSION.
ADMISSION. I GUESS THEY WANTED TO GO
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS INSTEAD
OF MILLIONS.
OF MILLIONS. THE QASIM ADMISSION IS MORE
MILLIONS.
MILLIONS.
MILLIONS. SHE SHOULD BE EXPELLED BECAUSE
YOU GOT TO KEEP IT REAL.
THIS IS REAL TALK.
IF SHE LOOKED LIKE ME SHE WOULD
BE OUT.
BE OUT.
BE OUT. >> I AGREE WITH THAT.
>> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
>> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
IN THE GREEN ROOM.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY. >> I'M JUST SAYING.
>> WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, A
GIRL IN THIS AREA GOT TROUBLE
FOR HAVING A PERFECT SCORE ON
AN SAT.
AN SAT.
AN SAT. IS THAT TRUE?
YES, AND THEN THESE WOMEN ARE
DOING THIS.
DOING THIS. >> AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS
SPARKS A GREAT CONVERSATION
GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID.
WHATEVER YOU DIDN'T HAVE AND
WHATEVER WE WANT FOR OUR
CHILDREN, WE WANT TO MANIFEST
IT IN THEIR LIVES BUT AT WHAT
COST?
COST?
COST? EXPERTS AGREE THAT IF YOU WANT
YOUR CHILD TO BE SUCCESSFUL
WITHOUT RAISING AN ENTITLED
CHILD, HERE ARE SOME TIPS.
>> NUMBER 1 -- EXPECT THEM TO
DO CHORES.
DO CHORES. >> BE CAREFUL NOT TO FALL INTO
THE TRAP OF DOING THINGS FOR
THEM BECAUSE YOU WANT IT DONE
FASTER.
FASTER.
FASTER. I
FASTER. I DON'T MEAN TO ROLE MY EYES.
DID THESE GIRLS DO CHORES?
>> JIM IS FANATICAL ABOUT THIS.
HE SAYS 100% THEY ARE NOT
HELPING OUT AND I WANT YOU TO
DO THIS.
DO THIS.
DO THIS. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. YOU HAVE TO TRUST PEOPLE WITH
RESPONSIBILITY EVEN IF THEY ARE
4 OR FOURTEENER 21.
HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.
SOMETIMES BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
CHILDREN WE DON'T HOLD THEM
ACCOUNTABLE AND THAT START AT
HOME.
HOME.
HOME. WEATHER IT IS BEEN UP AFTER
YOURSELF OR PUTTING SOMETHING
AWAY.
AWAY.
AWAY. IT
AWAY. IT STARTS THERE.
IF YOU DON'T NIP IT IN THE BUD
THEN THEN YOU GET INTO THIS
SITUATION.
SITUATION. >> WHAT ABOUT THE BATHROOMS?
SOMEBODY HAS TO CLEAN THEM.
THEY SMELLED LIKE A GAS STATION
BATHROOM.
BATHROOM.
BATHROOM. I LOCKED THE BATHROOMS AND
EVERYBODY SAID I GOT TO USE THE
BATHROOM AND I SAID YOU CAN GET
IN THERE WHEN YOU CLEAN THEM.
EVERYBODY WAS STANDING IN THE
HALLWAY.
HALLWAY.
HALLWAY. YOU GOT TO GO TO THE OTHER
BATHROOM EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU.
>> WE GOT TO WRAP IT IS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, BE A
ROLE MODEL.
ROLE MODEL. >> OLIVIA JADE DIDN'T EVEN WANT
TO GO TO SCHOOL SO IF SHE GETS
EXPELLED MAYBE SHE WILL HAVE A
PARTY.
PARTY.
PARTY. SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T WANT TO GO.
>> YES, SHE WILL GET A TV SHOW.
WATCH.
WATCH.
WATCH. >>
WATCH. >> WE WILL POST THESE QUESTIONS
TO HELP YOU RAISE A WELL-
ADJUSTED CHILD, NOT AN AND
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