uh let's play this clip about uh uh
bernie on uh on meet the press on sunday
because it's gonna be fascinating to see
well
i don't wanna overstate this um uh
fascinating might be a little too strong
of a word uh but it'd be mildly
interesting to find out like you know if
there if the tone of a show like this
changes
where you know the the drum beat has
been it is you know the the democrats
suffered because
of uh defund the police and
blank blank blank and
uh even you know the deployment of
millions of dollars
couldn't um
couldn't save a lot of these democrats
who were just you know
just bucking even you know schrader
bucked the the billback batter plan
um
now of course you know mansion's not
going to have that problem but um but
with the narrative the cinnamon right
down the ramp cinema might uh but here
is uh bernie sanders on uh on chuck
todd's program
and chuck todd can't really sort of wrap
his his arms around what everyone seems
to know it's it's
fascinating
okay everything you said there was being
addressed and build back better okay it
wasn't as big as you wanted it
it was too big for some
but why do we have nothing right that is
the head scratcher here understand you
don't have it all why is it zero why
positive pause it for one second i just
want to be clear on what the timing of
this was
this was this sunday
this was not
chuck todd
a year ago
speculating that it is not going to pass
in other words we all know why it didn't
pass
we know exactly why it didn't pass
chuck todd
presumably has a whole staff
who could tell him why it didn't pass go
ask somebody in west virginia exactly go
reverse a little bit and then
that is the head scratcher here
understand you don't have it all why is
it zero why is there nothing
it's
well it should not be a head scratcher
you got two members of the senate
senator
manchin and senator cinema who have
sabotaged uh what the president has been
fighting it's a strong word
well you helped me out with a better
word here you got 48 members of the
senate who wanted to go forward
with an agenda that helped working
families that was prepared to take on
the wealthy and the powerful you had a
president who wanted to do that you had
two people who prevented us from doing
that you have a better word than
sabotage that's fine but i think that is
the right word and i think pressure has
got to be put on the part of people in
west virginia in arizona to say you know
what why don't you stand up for ordinary
americans not just your wealthy campaign
contributors why don't you have the guts
to take on the drug companies and the
insurance companies and the fossil fuel
industry so let me
it's literally like the pre the press of
chuck chuck todd's ilk their brains are
collectively
malfunctioning with like when they're
unable to blame progressives for a
democratic president's agenda falling
apart it's like pouring water on like
some type of like uh electronics board
yeah it just like completely short
circuits them
sabotage that's a strong word do you
mean that they literally like put uh
dynamite underneath the piece of
legislation like no what are you talking
about yeah you would have no problem
frankly using that word if it was about
i don't know ilhan omar or the man that
you're speaking to right now it's um
and and and the problem is
is that
you know just even from what our guest
um
that we had today in terms of the
dynamics between presidents and the
press
you know msnbc is
the most
left of center
uh
mass media outlets in the country and
this game that they all play there and
almost all of the hosts you know short
of like maybe a couple at night
have always played this game to one uh
in one
um you know way or another which is
um
we're just not going to recognize the
fact that
the moderates so-called moderates or
centrists have absolutely no
constituency
and um within the democratic party just
none
and completely ignore this
so that they're keeping everybody who's
watching that program for the most part
you know democratic voters keeping them
completely in the dark as to what
exactly is the dynamic here
i mean that's asking them to
acknowledge that the center has no sort
of constituency is like having like
people in the vatican say heliocentrism
is uh yes it's honestly it's just uh
it's absurd i they also if you want to
talk about who actually maybe not
sabotage but who helped kill
build back better in general it's
literally everybody except the
progressives um i mean it's everybody
that went along with the deco the
decoupling yep so there are multiple
murderers of buildback better here um
that's a strong word oh yeah right i
know i shouldn't use that um but putting
to sleepers how about that putting to
bed bernie is frankly being generous by
just saying it's mansion in cinema
um yes the president also um to be fair
uh blew it and pelosi blew it and
schumer blew it
but at the end of the day yes it was
because of uh a cinema and mansion
they they i mean yeah they're sabotaged
you